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Blaze Diem

(3,384 posts)
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:10 AM Jan 2012

Keystone Pipeline: What's the Cost of Crossing American Soil?

I own mineral acres in the Bakken Field. I get a great oil payout every month. HOWEVER..one thing I learned from associating with the business of Big Oil, "Never settle for their first offer."
America should be the beneficiary of a lot more goodies than a few thousand temp jobs. Cuz right now thats all they're offering. Who knows what that number will actually be after they hire all the canadians to work on the pipeline first.
Been around and around with the Oil Cos. Guess what..THEY LIE.

Obama needs to hold out & negotiate & bargain if it takes 2-10 years.
To drag the sludge from Canada to Houston refinerys and out to sea & foreign markets, this Nation surely needs to end up being every bit an equal beneficiary in the Keystone Project as Big Oil & their globally dominate business.

What they have offered the USA is a half-assed expectation of jobs. That's It. No trusts for the future of America, no nothing.
Pay the price to turn the center of America into a super highway for Canadian sludge or go elsewhere.

Agree to regulations and strict monitoring, because as the whole thing stands, as I see it, they have offered nothing but a twinkle from their gold toothed smile as they push President Obama to sign on the dotted line.

Oil cos. are used to getting what they want anywhere they want in the world. They are also prepared to negotiate. What are they willing to give to cross American soil?
Obama should sacrifice nothing of this Nation.
This should be the chess game of his life.
The path through the center of America is worth what?

Thanks
Blaze

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Keystone Pipeline: What's the Cost of Crossing American Soil? (Original Post) Blaze Diem Jan 2012 OP
Better yet, no pipeline now, no pipeline in the future. AnOhioan Jan 2012 #1
"...ship out refined product overseas" tax free. DCKit Jan 2012 #3
Better idea, no pipeline period, now or in the future MadHound Jan 2012 #2
Canada has a port they can ship it too so why don't they do that madokie Jan 2012 #4
Yes they do & I believe its a lot closer than Houston Tx Blaze Diem Jan 2012 #5

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
1. Better yet, no pipeline now, no pipeline in the future.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 06:54 AM
Jan 2012

Tell Big Oil to suck eggs. They want the pipeline so that they can ship out refined product overseas. This boondoggle does nothing for the USA, except create the obvious risk of a leak or malfunction, but those "never" happen, do they.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
3. "...ship out refined product overseas" tax free.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:57 AM
Jan 2012

Let 'em build some refineries in Canada, or just south of the border.

Their excuse is that the U.S. needs that oil, so why not build the refineries closer to the source? They haven't been running the refineries in Houston anywhere near capacity for (at least) the past five years, and it's not because they can't source the oil.

Hell, even now they're shipping out immense volumes of gasoline to other countries, and we're paying >$3.50/gallon.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
2. Better idea, no pipeline period, now or in the future
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jan 2012

Such a pipeline is an ecological disaster waiting to happen.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. Canada has a port they can ship it too so why don't they do that
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:04 AM
Jan 2012

Probably don't want to take a chance with the thing breaking at some point in the future and spoiling a large area.

Fuck big oil every which way from sunday

 

Blaze Diem

(3,384 posts)
5. Yes they do & I believe its a lot closer than Houston Tx
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:10 PM
Jan 2012

Only beneficiaries will be TransCanada, Oil companies that profit from sale on foreign markets, and the Houston oil company's refineries.

Looks like an exclusive win win for all of them.

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