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ecstatic

(34,139 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:11 PM Nov 2023

The biggest dating red flag for men is when someone...

According to a recent survey by Change Research, the biggest dating red flag for men is when someone identifies as a communist. A whopping 64% said this political leaning would be a turnoff.
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More than half, 55%, of women said identifying as a communist is a red flag, but other sociopolitical stances were more problematic.

A potential partner saying that there are only two genders or saying "all lives matter" were both bigger red flags than being a communist — so was having no hobbies.

Being a "MAGA Republican" was the biggest red flag, with 76% of women saying this was not a desirable trait.

link: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/64-of-men-say-this-is-their-no-1-dating-red-flag-according-to-recent-survey/4893267/


That's the biggest red flag? WTF?
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The biggest dating red flag for men is when someone... (Original Post) ecstatic Nov 2023 OP
How many communists are there in the wild? Elessar Zappa Nov 2023 #1
Feral commies? calguy Nov 2023 #3
US males tend to lean RW magat and they call "communist" Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #7
Citation needed. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #19
Any reasonable demographic breakdown of the 2020 election shows it Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #21
You mean white males. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #29
No, look at "Males". Your true facts don't contradict what I wrote Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #33
Again: you're talking white males. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #40
Technically, you're both right. Looking at US males in general... paleotn Nov 2023 #42
I know we're both right. I am just pointing out it's a white male problem. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #48
Umm, that's kind of what I said. paleotn Nov 2023 #57
No. Do not put words in anyone's mouth. I mean what I write. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #51
It's a white male issue. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #53
Post your point at the OP. Your beef is with the OP, not me. Please stop. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #55
I have no beef. But my reply is to the person who said US males lean MAGA. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #64
No, it won't. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2023 #30
I gave a solid answer to your request. You should have been more specific in your request Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #34
Good luck finding empathetic people, male or female, among Trump voters. paleotn Nov 2023 #44
The rubes label Dims with it all day everyday. czarjak Nov 2023 #36
The right wouldn't know an actual communist if one fell on them. paleotn Nov 2023 #45
or when a prospective date asks if you rent or own.... nt msongs Nov 2023 #2
My biggest red flag are communist ski instructors Basic LA Nov 2023 #4
When I clicked on this thread Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #5
That's a little bit funny mahina Nov 2023 #6
I would consider dating a Communist, but a MAGA gal wouldn't get any consideration. Chainfire Nov 2023 #8
You mean its not.... getagrip_already Nov 2023 #9
Jen! Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #10
Another piece of anecdotal evidence that dump cannot win an election. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #11
I really hope so. Especially the 76% anti-magat number for women. lol nt ecstatic Nov 2023 #15
My kiddo was "talking" to someone for a little while. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #20
When I was single, I refused to date women who were MAGAs ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2023 #28
Word. What would they even have in common? onecaliberal Nov 2023 #32
Good to hear. czarjak Nov 2023 #37
Good kiddo. paleotn Nov 2023 #46
Most Americans hate Trump. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #31
Depends on who is trying to get dates. keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #12
lol. I just checked and they all seem to be out of business ecstatic Nov 2023 #18
No commie's gonna grab mah means uh reproduckshun! Silent3 Nov 2023 #13
Or steal your essence. Sneederbunk Nov 2023 #35
Precious bodily fluids. paleotn Nov 2023 #47
76% of women turned off by MAGA is the bigger story, IMO NickB79 Nov 2023 #14
Exactly! ShazzieB Nov 2023 #27
Yep, nothing turns me off more than a date droning on and on Xavier Breath Nov 2023 #16
No it sounds consistent, MAGA is anti gen z so they're even a bigger red flag uponit7771 Nov 2023 #56
In my dating days, I never dated anyone who said she was a communist DavidDvorkin Nov 2023 #17
How many people of any gender identify as Communists? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2023 #22
Doesn't matter. maga males & others FEAR communists Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #54
The biggest red flag to me was being rude to waitstaff or store employees Danmel Nov 2023 #23
Borowitz? The Onion? treestar Nov 2023 #24
I call my sons communists whenever they do something I don't like, or don't agree with me on movies or books. NNadir Nov 2023 #25
Soccer was a Communist Plot. czarjak Nov 2023 #38
Date a Trotskyite instead DBoon Nov 2023 #26
Well, I briefly did that once, but she said, "I'd like to pick your brain." After that I had a stabbing headache. NNadir Nov 2023 #58
Rather date a communist than a magat spanone Nov 2023 #39
I just say I'm an Anarcho-syndicalist Dave says Nov 2023 #41
I'm not a communist, I'm a Marxist-Leninist Prairie Gates Nov 2023 #62
Was this study conducted in 1962? TSExile Nov 2023 #43
86% of male respondents were members of John Birch Society Prairie Gates Nov 2023 #63
The biggest dating "red flag" for me, is when she destroys the living room DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #49
"Does he wear bland, drab, olive-colored clothing?" betsuni Nov 2023 #50
lol!! NotVeryImportant Nov 2023 #65
Plenty of commiephobes here too. Marcus IM Nov 2023 #52
I know some pretty far left folks RandomNumbers Nov 2023 #59
I Obviously RobinA Nov 2023 #60
Increases your chances of getting blacklisted at Hop Sing's Prairie Gates Nov 2023 #61

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,477 posts)
7. US males tend to lean RW magat and they call "communist"
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:38 PM
Nov 2023

... any kind of "wokeness" or DEI or affirmative action or ordinary government social programs. (Talking wide averages and tendencies.)

US women tend to be more caring and to care more about caring programs and have more empathy than the males (again, averages).

magats label everything left of center-right as "communist".

But we have always known that women tend to wiser than men (on average).

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
29. You mean white males.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:47 PM
Nov 2023

According to your link:

79% of Black men voted for Biden.
59% of Latino men voted for Biden.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,477 posts)
33. No, look at "Males". Your true facts don't contradict what I wrote
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:53 PM
Nov 2023

Men 53% Trump. That is a lean. I wrote about men and women. I did not write about "racial" demographics. The Original Post was about men and women, not about Hispanics vs African Americans.

Women 57% Biden. That is a lean the other way, a little stronger.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
40. Again: you're talking white males.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 11:20 PM
Nov 2023

You're the one who mentioned, as you put it, US males tend to lean MAGA.

No. White males do. There is a huge difference, as your link proves: men of color do not lean MAGA.

paleotn

(18,912 posts)
42. Technically, you're both right. Looking at US males in general...
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 11:50 PM
Nov 2023

white male attitudes drown out those of the black men subset.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
48. I know we're both right. I am just pointing out it's a white male problem.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:28 AM
Nov 2023

In fact, MAGA is a white person problem in general.

Trump won white women with 55%.

The only reason Trump lost the woman vote, and why this whole point makes sense, is because women of color overwhelmingly supported Biden. He won 90% of Black women and 69% of Latino women.

White men also are the largest portion of the voting electorate (making up 35% of the vote according to the poster's link) - followed by white women (32%). The only reason Trump is as competitive as he is is solely because of white people in general - not just white men (but women).

If only white women voted, Trump would still win comfortably.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,477 posts)
51. No. Do not put words in anyone's mouth. I mean what I write.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 04:36 AM
Nov 2023

It doesn't matter that your facts are true, they are not the set of people I am writing about, and not the set of people the OP is writing about.

You are writing about subsets of the people the OP and my posts are about. Your points are valid, but they are not the full set of the OP. There was some incredulity about the set of all males in the country. My reference explains the foundation of the statistic in the OP by looking at voters as proxies for the whole population of males and females, a valid proposition because of the political nature of the issues in the OP.

It is a cheap disrespectful tactic to try to put words in people's mouths.

Please stop trying.

Make your points, but make your points as your own points.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
53. It's a white male issue.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:20 AM
Nov 2023

Men of color do not lean MAGA and your blanket statement should have qualifiers added to it because it's insanely broad and disingenuous. In the end, MAGA is a result of white men and white women. They both overwhelmingly voted Trump.

Men don't lean MAGA. White men do. Unless you don't consider men of color valid.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
64. I have no beef. But my reply is to the person who said US males lean MAGA.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:11 PM
Nov 2023

I am pointing out the link they shared shows that it's actually white males who lean MAGA. It's really that simple.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
30. No, it won't.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:48 PM
Nov 2023

It will tell you who voted for what candidates. It won't tell you anything useful about intelligence or empathy, because voting polls don't measure these things.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,477 posts)
34. I gave a solid answer to your request. You should have been more specific in your request
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 10:02 PM
Nov 2023

You asked for a citation.

I gave you a good citation.

What citation should I have given you? The citation that confirms the first fact I stated in my post (in the first few words of the subject line). The most prominent fact.

I gave you what you requested.

When you read my post, you will also see that I wrote nothing about intelligence. Since you surely distinguish between intelligence and wisdom I am at a loss as to why you would think wrote about intelligence when I actually wrote about wisdom. Did you read carelessly?

paleotn

(18,912 posts)
44. Good luck finding empathetic people, male or female, among Trump voters.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:07 AM
Nov 2023

Personally, I think this all centers on fragile masculinity where empathy is considered weakness. An epidemic among US males of all types. Not surprising given that our society frames empathy and masculinity as mutually exclusive.

mahina

(18,756 posts)
6. That's a little bit funny
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:33 PM
Nov 2023

My biggest dating red flag is when they stalk me.

Kind of puts a person off the whole thing

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
8. I would consider dating a Communist, but a MAGA gal wouldn't get any consideration.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:39 PM
Nov 2023

A Communist probably has a heart if not a brain; a MAGA woman would have neither.

getagrip_already

(17,003 posts)
9. You mean its not....
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:42 PM
Nov 2023

Asking you your mother's maiden name, your first pets name, the street where you grew up, or the name of the first school you attended?

onecaliberal

(35,330 posts)
20. My kiddo was "talking" to someone for a little while.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:33 PM
Nov 2023

I noticed that I hadn’t heard her mention the person in a while so I asked her about it. She said omg mom, he was a repuke, that’s a deal breaker. It IS a thing.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(2,921 posts)
28. When I was single, I refused to date women who were MAGAs
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:23 PM
Nov 2023

A night alone doing what I wanted to do was preferable to that.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
31. Most Americans hate Trump.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:49 PM
Nov 2023

The problem isn't Trump getting enough votes to win - it's Biden losing votes to third party candidates so that Trump wins again.

keithbvadu2

(39,492 posts)
12. Depends on who is trying to get dates.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:18 PM
Nov 2023

Dating Site For Trump Supporters
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/05/make-dating-great-again-dating-site-for-trump-supporters-officially-launches/?utm_source=site-share
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(They don’t care if you’re married or not)
Some reports have also noted that, once a person gets past the initial sign-up page, he or she can choose "happily married" or "unhappily married" as a status before finalizing a profile and meeting new potential dates.
http://www.wral.com/nc-couple-pitching-trump-dating-site/17354987/

They claim they fixed that.

Riddleberger's past includes a felony conviction for taking indecent liberties with a child in in 1995.

ecstatic

(34,139 posts)
18. lol. I just checked and they all seem to be out of business
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:13 PM
Nov 2023

Even the "trumpsingles" site at the top of google appears to be blank/nonfunctional.

Might as well name the site inceldating.com. LOL

paleotn

(18,912 posts)
47. Precious bodily fluids.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:20 AM
Nov 2023

May I suggest pure grain alcohol and rain water. Can't be too careful, ya know.

ShazzieB

(18,260 posts)
27. Exactly!
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:14 PM
Nov 2023

I had to go back and look at the title of the op again, to make sure I read it right.

This is definitely a case of burying the lede!

Xavier Breath

(4,743 posts)
16. Yep, nothing turns me off more than a date droning on and on
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:07 PM
Nov 2023

about five-year plans and tractor factories.

DavidDvorkin

(19,816 posts)
17. In my dating days, I never dated anyone who said she was a communist
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:07 PM
Nov 2023

But maybe that just shows how sneaky communists are.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,477 posts)
54. Doesn't matter. maga males & others FEAR communists
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:29 AM
Nov 2023

magas are more prone than average people to "manufactured insecurity" (Astra Taylor, 2023 Massey Lecturer (MLK Jr was 1967 lecturer)).

The right wing media push paranoia and fear. Anything with a tinge of socialism gets tarred with "communist!". Insecurity sells eyeballs to advertisers for media company profit. Even WaPo and NYT are prone to it, as revealed by a study of front page stories posted here yesterday.

magas want to preserve their white privilege which they see as being under attack and eroding. They also see themselves as losing jobs and power and want to blame somebody. Available at hand are the old John Birch Society / Sen. McCarthy tropes from the 1950s.

"A red under every bed" They can't use that hoary old phrase since they adopted red as their colour.

Danmel

(5,160 posts)
23. The biggest red flag to me was being rude to waitstaff or store employees
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:03 PM
Nov 2023

I can't say I've ever thought about asking about communism.

NNadir

(34,293 posts)
25. I call my sons communists whenever they do something I don't like, or don't agree with me on movies or books.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 09:06 PM
Nov 2023

It's a habit from my youth, mocking my father (who I loved very much). It was his habit, more seriously than I do.

I briefly identified as a communist when I was in my early 20s, although I never joined the party, went to a meeting, or anything like that.
I just used to say it to piss people off..

czarjak

(12,235 posts)
38. Soccer was a Communist Plot.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 10:27 PM
Nov 2023

Conspiracy Theories then, Conspiracy Theories now, Conspiracy Theories tomorrow. Right-Wing thing.

NNadir

(34,293 posts)
58. Well, I briefly did that once, but she said, "I'd like to pick your brain." After that I had a stabbing headache.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:14 PM
Nov 2023

TSExile

(3,228 posts)
43. Was this study conducted in 1962?
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:04 AM
Nov 2023

Yes, MAGA is definitely the red flag (or should it be red hat?) in my case. While undergoing counseling at the rape crisis center in 2021, I told the therapist that not only would I never marry someone enamored with T**** and his special blend of hate and violence, I wouldn't go on a date with him. I guess I feel if someone is pro-T**** that person is also pro-rape and anti-woman. Too harsh?

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
49. The biggest dating "red flag" for me, is when she destroys the living room
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 03:40 AM
Nov 2023

in a fit of rage which climaxes with her rolling around on the floor, screaming--- after I barely dodge a thrown marble ash-tray aimed at my head....

Compared with such, saying that you are a communist on some date-site profile does not even register...

(unfortunately, that didn't happen until the 'dating' stage was passed, and the cohabitating stage was well underway... true story)



'Communist'?? That would actually be on my "turn-on list", not a red flag at all...
as long as she was or became a Democratic-voting far leftist...

Hell, according to the GQP, all of us Democrats are "Communists" anyway--
even though few of them know what the word means anymore...


Funny, I had not recalled that incident for a long time... Needless to say, we are no longer together, but in her "defense", it only happened once. Of course, once was more than enough...

The next day I dutifully cleaned up the mess......

 

Marcus IM

(3,001 posts)
52. Plenty of commiephobes here too.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 05:14 AM
Nov 2023

I get called a commie just for advocating for an end to the US extraterritorial sanctions on Cuba.
Almost always by men.


RandomNumbers

(18,092 posts)
59. I know some pretty far left folks
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:18 PM
Nov 2023

but they don't identify as communist.

Considering that communism generally comes with totalitarianism, and then becomes fake communism that ultimately benefits the ruling class - "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - most leftists who recognize that aren't very interested in it. Democratic socialism is a completely different concept. Thing is, right-wingers and the politically naive like to conflate the two.

RobinA

(10,094 posts)
60. I Obviously
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 02:07 PM
Nov 2023

haven't dated enough in my 65 years, I've never dated anyone who identified as a Communist. Not that there's anything wrong with that in my book.

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