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Here Is What Louisiana Schoolchildren Learn About Evolution (Original Post) JaneyVee Nov 2012 OP
That is creepy.. ananda Nov 2012 #1
All children should watch this mick063 Nov 2012 #4
Here's another video to check out... ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #37
Goebbels would be proud. JeffHead Nov 2012 #2
That is pathetic. madaboutharry Nov 2012 #3
Is this from a public school text? Sadiedog Nov 2012 #5
Sort of MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #16
There is no "sort of". Is it or isn't it a PUBLIC SCHOOL text? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #17
I'm not the OP MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #21
What book is this? XemaSab Nov 2012 #6
A lot of Louisiana college freshmen will be failing intro biology bluestateguy Nov 2012 #7
Most evolutionists don't believe that there was one great flood? Don't they know that the world was AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #8
Oooh.. Do they have Dinosaur Jesus in there? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #9
I have been proven wrong former-republican Nov 2012 #12
The little dino is so cute demwing Nov 2012 #27
And Americans wonder why we are Ilsa Nov 2012 #10
Anyone with brains knows people were on earth before dinosaurs. former-republican Nov 2012 #11
Colleges should accept no applicants who graduate from these schools. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #13
Uhm, you assuming these kids GO to regular colleges and not Liberty U, Bob Jones, or Regent U riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #25
I doubt most businesses accept degrees from Liberty U and other propaganda centers. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #29
Our credit union employs as their financial advisor abelenkpe Nov 2012 #32
WTF? Odin2005 Nov 2012 #36
exactly abelenkpe Nov 2012 #44
LMAO! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #45
Republican administrations will hire them... ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #38
Uhm, how quickly Monica Goodling (Sr Advisor to Alberto Gonzalez) riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #39
Fuuuuuuuuuck. chollybocker Nov 2012 #14
Man is the highest level of animal? IDemo Nov 2012 #15
"We don't look at the quality of the curriculum" MountainLaurel Nov 2012 #18
OP's title needed the word "SOME." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #19
What? Is this the AP version or something? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #23
I don't believe this is from a public school demwing Nov 2012 #20
that's the point- it's from a publicly funded private school. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #26
Jesus wept demwing Nov 2012 #28
Why am I suddenly reminded of Jesus Camp? Initech Nov 2012 #22
I want to know where this came from. I don't know any kids who've had that. nolabear Nov 2012 #24
the times they are a-changin'... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #30
What school? I'm not arguing, just curious. nolabear Nov 2012 #31
Not sure but LA greatly expanded it's voucher program SpartanDem Nov 2012 #33
here's a thread with more info on the subject... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #35
Links? SpartanDem Nov 2012 #34
"Evolutionists"? WTF? Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #40
Looks like this post was copied directly from a BuzzFeed article... DreamGypsy Nov 2012 #41
As a former biology teacher what really irks me TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #42
Frightening indeed. How on earth do these morons expect civilization to maintain when Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #43

ReasonableToo

(505 posts)
37. Here's another video to check out...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

Bill Maher has a chat with a scientist from the Vatican...

(a good chat)

MountainLaurel

(10,271 posts)
16. Sort of
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

I would guess this is a textbook -- maybe from the Beka curriculum -- from one of the religious "schools" receiving public funds from the state via either voucher money or as a charter school.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. A lot of Louisiana college freshmen will be failing intro biology
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

When they go to public universities and bring those twisted ideas with them, they won't make it past their first exam.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. Most evolutionists don't believe that there was one great flood? Don't they know that the world was
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

flat before it (apparently through a miracle) became a sphere?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
27. The little dino is so cute
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:02 PM
Nov 2012

listening for the heart of Jesus, trying to find the juicy parts, it's just adorable!

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
11. Anyone with brains knows people were on earth before dinosaurs.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:37 PM
Nov 2012

There were no dinosaurs in the garden of Eden.

Why are some people so dumb.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
13. Colleges should accept no applicants who graduate from these schools.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:41 PM
Nov 2012

Colleges should not have to be forced to engage in remedial education because RW Christo-Fascists want their kids taught BS.

Once they realize that their kids will get nowhere in life by teaching them mythology as fact thing will change.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. Uhm, you assuming these kids GO to regular colleges and not Liberty U, Bob Jones, or Regent U
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nov 2012

where this kind of teaching is MANDATORY for admission.



There is a whole sub-strata of society that's being built to accommodate these fools. They are infiltrating government, the military, school boards and more. I'd like to think there are enough of us to out-weight the religious crazies but from my perspective they seem to be gaining strength and numbers (and influence).

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
32. Our credit union employs as their financial advisor
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nov 2012

A fellow who proudly displays his diploma from liberty university. Had an appointment with him once to discuss our family's investments, looked up and saw his diploma and could not have gotten out of there faster. Wtf?! Certainly not trusting that guy with our investments.....

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
39. Uhm, how quickly Monica Goodling (Sr Advisor to Alberto Gonzalez)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:08 AM
Nov 2012

and others of her ilk are forgotten.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/06/AR2007040601799.html

I repeat, there's a MAJOR problem with this sub-strata of religious whackjobs and their access via the rightwing religious network of crazies linked into our nation's biggest power brokers (remember "The Family&quot .

chollybocker

(3,687 posts)
14. Fuuuuuuuuuck.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:44 PM
Nov 2012

"So dinosaurs and man would have lived at the same time. God's word is always accurate. We can trust it to be true even in areas of science."

Very convincing argument! Did Bobby Jindal write this book?

MountainLaurel

(10,271 posts)
18. "We don't look at the quality of the curriculum"
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:49 PM
Nov 2012
Under Louisiana's Constitution, any nonpublic school getting state money must be certified as providing a curriculum or specialized course of study at least equal to those required for similar public schools.

But it's questionable whether that requirement is being met for the 377 schools in the state voucher program.

snip

"We don't look at what they teach," he said. "We look at the system. We look at policies and procedures, not what they teach. It's how they teach and not what they teach."

A public records request to view curricula submitted by nonpublic schools found that neither BESE nor the Department of Education requires them to submit copies of their curricula or copies of the books they use.


This is in blatant violation of the SCOTUS ruling that allowed vouchers in addition to the state constitution.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20121119/NEWS01/121119011
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
20. I don't believe this is from a public school
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:51 PM
Nov 2012

and if it is, I really wonder why any DUer would question a progressive's desire to homeschool their child

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
24. I want to know where this came from. I don't know any kids who've had that.
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nov 2012

I grew up in Southern Mississippi, my neices and nephews in the Louisiana school system, and none of us was taught scripture or Creationism. Private schools, all bets are off. I've heard that some public schools do, but have never actually known any.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
30. the times they are a-changin'...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:28 PM
Nov 2012

private schools- now with public financing.

it's a brave new world.
and i don't grok to it.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
33. Not sure but LA greatly expanded it's voucher program
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:41 PM
Nov 2012

This would be funny if it weren’t so, well, not funny.

A biology textbook used by a Christian school in Louisiana that will be accepting students with publicly funded vouchers in the fall says that the Loch Ness Monster in Scotland is real. And it isn’t just any monster but a dinosaur — an effort to debunk evolution and bolster creationist theory.

The story, reported in the Scotsman newspaper in Scotland, says that Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake is one of the many Christian schools in the United States that uses these books published by Accelerated Christian Education.
......

The reason all of this matters now to the public is that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal recently signed a law that sets up the largest voucher program of any state in the country. Some 125 private and religious schools from across the state are qualified to participate in the Louisiana Believes program, which gives families public money to pay school tuition for their children

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/loch-ness-monster-real-in-biology-textbook/2012/06/26/gJQAPhwr4V_blog.html

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
40. "Evolutionists"? WTF?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:10 AM
Nov 2012

Why don't they come right out and say "Darwinists"?

This is fringe anti-science stuff. I can't believe this is in a friggin' textbook in a public school.

Oh, I weep for a society that does this. It's literally a giant step backwards in thinking.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
41. Looks like this post was copied directly from a BuzzFeed article...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:26 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/here-is-what-louisiana-schoolchildren-learn-about

None of the interesting questions posed by repliers here are answered, as far as I can tell, eg. which textbooks, what children, what schools, etc.

There is a link on the BuzzFeed page subheading ' as competing theories' to http://www.bjupress.com/resources/science/grade-5/

I poked around a bit and didn't discover the particular texts shown in post/buzzfeed article.

More research is needed.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
42. As a former biology teacher what really irks me
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:00 AM
Nov 2012

beyond the idea of teaching creationism in a science class at all, is that they don't teach it right!

"if this were true simple life forms would ALL be buried in the lowest layers of rock" - No. Simple life forms could be found in all layers of rock. Simple life forms still exist. More advanced life forms would only be found in higher, younger layers of rock.

"It appears that most fossils were buried during a SUDDEN catastrophe like the Flood." Nonsense. The fossil record indicates that more of the Earth was covered with water than is covered now. Nothing indicates it was sudden.

"The animals that lived longer were buried in the top layers of rock." - The fossils of the plants and animals that lived more RECENTLY are found in the top layers of rock.

etc.

If the explain evolution in a nonsensical way, it's no surprise kids won't understand it or accept it. Of course they don't want them to.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
43. Frightening indeed. How on earth do these morons expect civilization to maintain when
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:40 AM
Nov 2012

they are churning out unthinking, superstitious ignoramuses?

I guess their magical sky-man will have to take over and run everything. But wait, that would be Communism.

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