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cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 11:00 PM Mar 2024

Donald Trump will NOT be elected President.

Americans are way to savvy.

Turdumpkin is broke and has 7 days to raise 500 million.
He just tapped on Manaforts shoulder...psst, hey buddy, can you talk to Vlad for me?
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The World Watched and Went WTF?


Every time I see some one who supports the dumpster fire of a human being, I will let them know that the whole world knows that he will not be anywhere near the oval office again and he will end up in prison.

Then just smile and wave goodbye.

I am going to take my optimism and run with it. Good night to all here at DU, I love you all and there will be peace if we all just continue to love, live and carry on the good fight.

Now, I need to go get some wipes for my keyboard as I hate typing that name.

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Donald Trump will NOT be elected President. (Original Post) cayugafalls Mar 2024 OP
Being elected is not his only path to another term... getagrip_already Mar 2024 #1
What other path does he have? TexasDem69 Mar 2024 #2
House of representatives... getagrip_already Mar 2024 #3
I'm not sure tRumo would get a majority of R votes MiniMe Mar 2024 #4
He will not be the resident again. I just feel it. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #6
Excellent point! GreenWave Mar 2024 #26
I guess I should have said that despite the optimism we still need to VOTE MASSIVELY cayugafalls Mar 2024 #5
What you're laying out is exactly what that Rolling Stone writer implied tonight on Rachel Maddow. ancianita Mar 2024 #12
This is a very real risk hueymahl Mar 2024 #19
That's if the GOP can maintain its state majority in the face of redistricting lees1975 Mar 2024 #28
It is not possible to drag the Rethugs under 26 (the minimum needed) state delegtions in the House due Celerity Mar 2024 #40
Election cheating and vote manipulation by Republicans at the local level. Lonestarblue Mar 2024 #29
Totally agree! Iwasthere Mar 2024 #32
Post removed Post removed Mar 2024 #7
Enjoy your stay. All Mixed Up Mar 2024 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #10
I wrote the same thing BigmanPigman Mar 2024 #14
Totally agree. ancianita Mar 2024 #11
Tup. Vote. Joinfortmill Mar 2024 #13
Lesson Learned, America! Mr.Bee Mar 2024 #15
"Americans are way to savvy" Silent3 Mar 2024 #16
tfg never won the popular vote. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #24
By slim enough a margin... Silent3 Mar 2024 #37
Well, then bookmark this op...I stand by my optimism. That guy will never be pResident again. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #38
I'm slightly optimistic about Biden's chances Silent3 Mar 2024 #39
"Americans are way too savvy" LudwigPastorius Mar 2024 #17
He never won the popular vote. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #25
Savvy IF Americans receive decent/factual/accurate NEWS, elleng Mar 2024 #18
'Americans are way to {sic} savvy.' NanaCat Mar 2024 #20
Thank you for your post. I understand you are not as optimistic. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #22
+1,000 malaise Mar 2024 #21
Thank you, malaise. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #23
I felt the same way in 2016. LuckyCharms Mar 2024 #27
I remain faithfully optimistic due to so many alarms being rung. cayugafalls Mar 2024 #31
RSO rso Mar 2024 #30
Americans are just as savvy as voters in other democracies DavidDvorkin Mar 2024 #33
Americans are too savy? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2024 #34
I regret not quantifying my statement last night, it should have said 'most Americans' cayugafalls Mar 2024 #36
He can't afford to lose a single vote from his 2020 attempt Blue Owl Mar 2024 #35

getagrip_already

(15,758 posts)
3. House of representatives...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 11:23 PM
Mar 2024

If either candidate fails to get 270 certified electoral votes, the house shall meet to elect the president and the senate shall elect the vice president.

Paraphrased.

How would that happen?

Third party candidates win a state or two. Or maybe chaos prevents states from certifying biden electors.

Whatever. If neither candidate gets 270, it goes to the house.

But constitutionally sound. Unfortunately, the way the system works, Republicans would get a majority of votes in the house and would choose the next president.

Basically, each state delegation of the new congress selects one rep to cast a vote. Because there will be more majority gop than dem delegations, they will choose the president.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
6. He will not be the resident again. I just feel it.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 11:41 PM
Mar 2024

Yes, I am being optimistic tonight, but I have American history on my side.

I will refer back to General Smedley Butler who was tapped by the fascists to over throw the US government. He led them on and once they were all fully ensnared and committed he turned them in as the traitors they were.

I truly believe there is a General Butler out there right now willing to save our democracy should it come to that dire outcome.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
5. I guess I should have said that despite the optimism we still need to VOTE MASSIVELY
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 11:35 PM
Mar 2024

for President Biden and work hard to get him elected, it is one of the reasons I feel optimistic, I'm retired and I do my part whatever little that is...

thank you for the valid input.

ancianita

(37,140 posts)
12. What you're laying out is exactly what that Rolling Stone writer implied tonight on Rachel Maddow.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:42 AM
Mar 2024

How across eight states,-- doesn't matter if they're battleground or other states -- the"2016 denier" election officials are already planning to refuse to certify.

lees1975

(4,407 posts)
28. That's if the GOP can maintain its state majority in the face of redistricting
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:26 AM
Mar 2024

I'm not sure it's going to be as close as people think.

Celerity

(45,266 posts)
40. It is not possible to drag the Rethugs under 26 (the minimum needed) state delegtions in the House due
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 2024

to illegal gerrymandering in NC (which will go from a 7 - 7 draw to a 10 - 4 or even 11- 3 R advantage due to the new Rethug House map), FL, and WI.

I have been on this since I joined DU in summer 2018, and it simply is not going to happen.


State -------------- Representatives

The Retugs control 26 US House state delagtions now, and 27 after NC flips. Also it is possible (not probable though) they could gain control of one or more of the following delegations; (AK, MI, MN, PA, and/or VA)

Alabama 7 total (6 R, 1 D)
Alaska 1 total (1 D)
Arizona 9 total (6 R, 3 D)
Arkansas 4 total (4 R)
California 51 total (11 R, 40 D)
Colorado 8 total (3 R, 5 D)
Connecticut 5 total (5 D)
Delaware 2 total (2 D)
Florida 28 total (20 R, 8 D)
Georgia 14 total (9 R, 5 D)

Hawaii 2 total (2 D)
Idaho 2 total (2 R)
Illinois 17 total (3 R, 14 D)
Indiana 9 total (7 R, 2 D)
Iowa 4 total (4 R)
Kansas 4 total (3 R, 1 D)
Kentucky 6 total (5 R, 1 D)
Louisiana 7 total (6 R, 1 D)

Maine 2 total (2 D)
Maryland 8 total (1 R, 7 D)
Massachusetts 9 total (9 D)
Michigan 13 total (6 R, 7 D)
Minnesota 8 total (4 R, 4 D)
Mississippi 4 total (3 R, 1 D)
Missouri 8 total (6 R, 2 D)
Montana 2 total (2 R)
Nebraska 3 total (3 R)

Nevada 4 total (1 R, 3 D)
New Hampshire 2 total (2 D)
New Jersey 12 total (3 R, 9 D)
New Mexico 3 total (3 D)
New York 27 total (11 R, 16 D)
North Carolina 14 total (7 R, 7 D) (will flip to Rethug control)
North Dakota 1 total (1 R)
Ohio 15 total (10 R, 5 D)
Oklahoma 5 total (5 R)

Oregon 6 total (2 R, 4 D)
Pennsylvania 17 total (8 R, 9 D)
Rhode Island 1 total (1 D)
South Carolina 7 total (6 R, 1 D)
South Dakota 1 total (1 R)
Tennessee 9 total (8 R, 1 D)
Texas 38 total (25 R, 13 D)
Utah 4 total (4 R)

Vermont 1 total (1 D)
Virginia 11 total (5 R, 6 D)
Washington 10 total (2 R, 8 D)
West Virginia 2 total (2 R)
Wisconsin 8 total (6 R, 2 D)
Wyoming 1 total (1 R)

Lonestarblue

(10,734 posts)
29. Election cheating and vote manipulation by Republicans at the local level.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:30 AM
Mar 2024

All they have to do is manipulate the vote count is some key districts in swing states enough to get the Electoral College majority. The Republican elections officials in Arizona come to mind, especially in Maricopa County, as they have refused to recognize the legitimacy of any election a Democrat wins. Republicans broke into the offices of Coffey County, fortunately after the 2020 election, in the dead of night and copied all the voting records and perhaps more importantly the Dominion voting machine software. I’m sure those copies were then shared to other states with Dominion machines. What is to stop Republicans from sneaking into local offices after the machines have been tested and certified ready for the votes and modifying them to overcount Republican votes and undercount Democratic votes. Supposedly machines are sealed. Who will identify that they have been tampered with if Republicans are in charge? Sorry for being paranoid, but I think we trust Republicans far too much to do the right thing.

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cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
24. tfg never won the popular vote.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:16 AM
Mar 2024

The majority of Americans are intelligent enough to know the difference between a wannabe dictator and a President Biden.

 

Silent3

(15,900 posts)
37. By slim enough a margin...
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:01 PM
Mar 2024

…that it remains clear we have a massive amount of ignorance, stupidity, and hateful attitudes in this country.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
38. Well, then bookmark this op...I stand by my optimism. That guy will never be pResident again.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:09 PM
Mar 2024

I will gladly drive to anywhere in the country to let you smoke some of what I am having should my optimism not pan out.

However, I am certain that you will not be partaking of the kindness from my garden.

Unless of course, you want to stop by sometime...

 

Silent3

(15,900 posts)
39. I'm slightly optimistic about Biden's chances
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:07 PM
Mar 2024

But even 5% odds of Trump being President again are terrifying. (See: downside risk).

Further, Biden winning still won't be enough to alleviate my disgust that so large a portion of the American public will vote for Trump after all they've had a chance to see. Winning doesn't magically erase that problem. Booking marking this OP has nothing to do with it.

LudwigPastorius

(9,780 posts)
17. "Americans are way too savvy"
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:13 AM
Mar 2024

Yet, he has been the Republican nominee 3 straight times since 2015.

I won't breathe a sigh of relief until he is behind bars.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
25. He never won the popular vote.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:18 AM
Mar 2024

I do not consider rethugs Americans anymore, but I digress.

I will sleep well as long as he is not the resident.

Optimism.

elleng

(133,289 posts)
18. Savvy IF Americans receive decent/factual/accurate NEWS,
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:15 AM
Mar 2024

and I'm not at all sure that happens uniformly now; lots of BLATHER and propaganda.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
20. 'Americans are way to {sic} savvy.'
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:49 AM
Mar 2024

LOL No they're not. This is a country with far more than its fair share of very stupid people.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
22. Thank you for your post. I understand you are not as optimistic.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:09 AM
Mar 2024

I'm a little sad, my post was meant to lift spirits, not dash them.

As for the premise of intelligent enough Americans, I said I was being 'Optimistic'.

I also don't believe in stupid as a word used to cite levels of intelligence.

There is ignorance and low IQ, but 'stupid' is a derogatory word meant to insult, inflame and incite during a verbal confrontation and not meant to convey actual intelligence level.

I stand behind my premise. TFG will not be the resident again.

LuckyCharms

(18,028 posts)
27. I felt the same way in 2016.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:25 AM
Mar 2024

And then, after the election, I vowed to never again underestimate the stupidity of the American people. Yes, I do mean stupidity.

But, I hope you're right this time.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
31. I remain faithfully optimistic due to so many alarms being rung.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:38 AM
Mar 2024

If there was NO media coverage of his crazy, no indictments or a immunity ruling, then yes, I might be a little less optimistic.

But barring all that, I keep hearing my grand father in my head telling me about fighting fascists and how they had to stay optimistic in the face of terrible conditions.

They won.

So shall we.

rso

(2,323 posts)
30. RSO
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:32 AM
Mar 2024

For those worried about state election officials in swing states not certifying the results, keep in mind that unlike in 2020, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania now have democratic Governors, Secretaries of State and AGs, so certification will not be an issue. And even in Georgia, both the governor and Secretary of State, though republicans, have a record of honesty when it comes to elections.

DavidDvorkin

(19,629 posts)
33. Americans are just as savvy as voters in other democracies
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 2024

Which is to say, not very, and only occasionally.

cayugafalls

(5,735 posts)
36. I regret not quantifying my statement last night, it should have said 'most Americans'
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:14 PM
Mar 2024

because I do believe that 'most' Americans are intelligent enough not to vote for the orange one since he never once won the popular vote and this time he will lose even more voters.

I am an optimist and nothing will prevent me from being such, I do my part in the good fight locally and now that I am retired I am discussing doing more, but I need buy in from my better half.

Blue Owl

(52,256 posts)
35. He can't afford to lose a single vote from his 2020 attempt
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:13 PM
Mar 2024

And he has been losing voters more and more....

Factor in his mental decline, his looming bankruptcies, and his unpopular stances on issues like immigrants and abortion, he has set himself up to fail spectacularly...

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