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WarGamer

(13,362 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 08:58 PM Apr 2024

Were you in favor of Trump hitting/killing Iranian General Soleimani in Iraq?

Pretty similar to the Nuttyahoo/Israeli strike in Syria...

I thought both strikes were stupid on the political stage.


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Were you in favor of Trump hitting/killing Iranian General Soleimani in Iraq? (Original Post) WarGamer Apr 2024 OP
A huge difference is that wnylib Apr 2024 #1
Not similar edhopper Apr 2024 #2
Articles out this weekend showing China is supplying Russia combat gear/tech.... WarGamer Apr 2024 #8
Don't understand edhopper Apr 2024 #10
More directed to the post above yours... my bad WarGamer Apr 2024 #11
Okay edhopper Apr 2024 #13
Bullshit poll. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #3
Plz explain... WarGamer Apr 2024 #5
Explain what? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2024 #7
Not a good try. Kingofalldems Apr 2024 #4
Explain... WarGamer Apr 2024 #6
Similar? enid602 Apr 2024 #9
'A more dangerous world': US killing of Iran's Soleimani stokes fears of regional conflict Celerity Apr 2024 #12

wnylib

(22,912 posts)
1. A huge difference is that
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 09:02 PM
Apr 2024

Iraq was not attacking the US when TSF launched his attack.

Iran, OTOH, is supporting attacks on Israel by Hamas and Houthis.

Your comparison between the two situations is apples and oranges.

WarGamer

(13,362 posts)
8. Articles out this weekend showing China is supplying Russia combat gear/tech....
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 09:08 PM
Apr 2024

So you'd be in favor of a US or Ukrainian strike on Chinese assets?

enid602

(8,806 posts)
9. Similar?
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 09:23 PM
Apr 2024

I’m not sure that even a dolt like Trump would pull this drone shit at such a sensitive time in the middle of a war where it could be interpreted as a major escalation.
Maybe I should say that people AROUND Trump wouldn’t let him do it. And they’d probably insist that Trump inform his one ally that finances the war in large part PRIOR to committing the drone strike.

Celerity

(45,308 posts)
12. 'A more dangerous world': US killing of Iran's Soleimani stokes fears of regional conflict
Sat Apr 13, 2024, 09:41 PM
Apr 2024


The killing on Friday of General Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran's elite Quds Force, signals a radical escalation in Washington’s stand-off with Iran, one some analysts warn could endanger US troops and their allies in Iraq, Syria and beyond.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200103-a-more-dangerous-world-usa-killing-soleimani-stokes-fears-regional-conflict-iran-iraq-trump



Issued on: 03/01/2020

Iran has vowed to avenge the death of the 62-year-old general, who was assassinated as he left Baghdad airport alongside key members of local Iran-backed militias early on Friday in a drone strike ordered by US President Donald Trump. General Soleimani was widely regarded as the second-most-powerful figure in Iran behind Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the country’s supreme leader, who warned that "severe revenge awaits the criminals" behind the attack. Soleimani had assembled a network of powerful and heavily armed allies stretching all the way to southern Lebanon, on Israel's doorstep. His targeted killing has caused alarm around the world, amid fears that Iranian retaliation against American interests in the region could spiral into a far larger conflict.

"We have woken up to a more dangerous world," said France's deputy foreign minister, Amélie de Montchalin. Russia, a key ally of Iran in the Middle East, blasted “an adventurist step that will increase tensions throughout the region". The assassination marks a major escalation in the stand-off between Washington and Iran, a relationship that has lurched from one crisis to another ever since Trump pulled the US out of a landmark Iranian nuclear deal negotiated by his predecessor. “What the Trump administration has done is rewrite the rules of engagement with Iran,” said Ellie Geranmayeh, a senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.



“Up until now, the military action on both sides had been mostly covert, without taking responsibility. But now the US has gone ahead and publically announced it assassinated one of the top figures in Iran’s political and military establishment,” Geranmayeh told FRANCE 24. “Therefore this opens up a whole new space for Iran to take retaliatory actions against senior American personnel in the Middle East or elsewhere,” she added. As Ian Bond, the director of foreign policy at the London-based Centre for European Reform, argued in a Twitter post, targeting non-state terrorists such as al Qaeda’s Osama bin Laden or the Islamic State (IS) group’s Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is “v[ery] different from killing [a] senior official of [an] internationally-recognised state”. The brazen strike marked a “big escalation by Trump, & a lawless step that increases risk to US & allies,” Bond added.



“It’s very difficult to overstate just how important this killing is,” stressed FRANCE 24’s correspondent in Lebanon, Leila Molana-Allen, describing the strike as “the equivalent of assassinating the head of the CIA on foreign soil”. She added: “This is a hugely humiliating blow for Iran, given that Soleimani was such an important and such a popular figure – they will be forced to retaliate.” Iran's Supreme National Security Council said it in a statement Friday that it had held a special session and made “appropriate decisions” on how to respond. But just what those decisions involve in practice is anyone's guess. Analysts say the slain commander's Quds Force, along with its stable of paramilitary proxies, has ample means to launch a multi-pronged response.

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