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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy has Tr***p been so keen on demanding Biden debates?
This is speculation, and now there are dates scheduled for these debates. Personally I think they'll still never happen. But I'm posting to share my speculation:
TFG famously avoided all the Repub primary debates this election, and it's difficult to call what he does in these venues "Debating".
But why is he so antsy now to do it?
Total speculation and I hope I'm wrong: He wants a nationwide forum to notify his deplorables to "stand down and stand by" or even worse. He has no interest in debating ideas, he wants a platform and he wants to sow chaos and violence asap. It's the message that "door's open boys, git yer guns" to avenge him that he needs a forum to spread.
If he does, I have low confidence that any broadcast or cable outlets will prevent spreading his message.
Just today Matt Gaetz said exactly this:
Matt Gaetz evokes standing by language adopted by Proud Boys as he attends court with Donald Trump
https://apnews.com/article/matt-gaetz-donald-trump-proud-boys-daed52f145929eefc8deaf2bfee32e47
I think this is their plan

elleng
(138,063 posts)Pres. Biden stepped up first.
wnylib
(25,183 posts)and saying that Biden was afraid to debate him. So Biden called his bluff.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)....he could do the same thing on Fox News without giving a platform to Biden.
Fullduplexxx
(8,427 posts)And now he setting the stage for not doing them
Democracy Defender
(6 posts)Trump said hed debate Biden any time, any place. The Biden announcement was in response to that
Fullduplexxx
(8,427 posts)Silent Type
(8,246 posts)as debate approaches.
MiniMe
(21,845 posts)I think he wants to cancel
cnn and ABC and only have one on Fox
Biden beat him to the punch. I think he thought that Biden wouldn't agree to debate him and he was go9ing to campaign on that. Didn't work
SWBTATTReg
(24,769 posts)And Pres. Biden is the one to do it. He's been around the block and is quick-witted too. tRUMP will get whiplash trying to keep everything together.
doc03
(37,392 posts)doesn't lose his temper and say something he shouldn't.
Butterflylady
(4,215 posts)Biden knows what he's doing and can handle a clown.
Hekate
(96,095 posts)I never watched The Apprentice, but I did watch what Trump did to Romney between his election and his inauguration. Kept him dangling, jerked him around, humiliated him publicly. I watched him fire Comey from 3,000 miles away after Comey did what he wanted by smearing Hillary.
TSF wants the entire world to kiss his butt and hang on his every whim. Hes been poking at Joe to see what happens regarding a debate. Poke poke poke.
So President Biden has said yes, and has given parameters for dates, presentation, and conduct for making the event something dignified and informative, instead of the 3-ring clown show and pro wrestling match that Trump has engineered for the past decade.
As a result, TSF has started to writhe and whine that thats not what he meant.
Expect more.
Talitha
(7,501 posts)





SomedayKindaLove
(1,108 posts)He pushed for the debates because it fed his narrative that Biden is inept or on drugs.
GoCubsGo
(33,438 posts)And, he is counting on his cult to overlook the fact that Joe is not the weak, blithering dementia case that the weak, blithering Dementia J. Trump paints him as.
sakabatou
(43,955 posts)Talitha
(7,501 posts)I honestly don't think he expected Joe to take him up on the debate challenge. Joe is THE most politically experienced President we've ever had and Dump knows it. We've had Presidents who were in politics, military, or ambassadorships. Dump is the only one who has never served our Country - and it shows.
From what I understand there won't be an audience at the debates, maybe that's why Dump might eventually pull out (something he's not famous for )
In any case, may he rot in hell.
Retrograde
(10,908 posts)He'll do anything to get in front of a person, man, woman, camera!
LowerManhattanite
(2,433 posts)The general rule is that the candidate that is desperately behind in the polls in the one that screams the loudest for lots of debates.
Now, we KNOW about the classic polling that gets reported and how terribly flawed those are. But Im talking about the more informational INTERNAL polling that candidates get telling them where theyre strong, but more importantly
where theyre weak.
Its my feeling that the internals are pretty abysmal for TSFshowing not just an erosion of #s within his so called base, but also a drop in enthusiasm for him across the GOP spectrumaka, an electoral disaster.
And thus, the cry for a jillion debates. The idea being that debates are an effective instant offense to spike your candidates #s quickly. A microwaved boost.
I do see those unreleased internals as a major albatross for him though. And I base my theory on what weve been seeing with the large number of GOO incumbents begging off from this cycle and retiring either early or not running. Why do that if your party is going to not just hold, but expand its hold on a tenuous House and flip the Senate?
Why? Well
think of it this way
Who walks away from the blackjack table if you KNOW the next card you hit for is gonna give you blackjack?
Who walks away from a winning hand?
The answer is
no one.
You walk away if you know youre gonna lost the pot.
Thats what I think the internals are telling here. And thus, TSFs crazed Hail Mary ask for debates on top of debates.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)for some odd reason, so he could play the "tough guy" by demanding debates.....
probably started believing too much in his own maggot talking points....
Also, he suffers from the delusion that he "won" his previous GE debates
in 2016 and especially 2020,
by shouting down his debate opponents---
Unfortunately for him, according to the rules he has agreed to,
he won't be able to do that this time---
or, as Steven Colbert said, 'he will appear to be the most angry mime in history' LOL
Hekate
(96,095 posts)Last edited Fri May 17, 2024, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Here is the Biden Campaign letter to the Presidential Debate Commission on why Biden will not do their debates
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218951384