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(7,671 posts)
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:10 PM May 29

Quick verdict vs a long verdict

Some believe short deliberations mean jurors have found the defendant guilty, while longer deliberations mean they are leaning towards acquittal


A long jury deliberation could mean the jurors are at an impasse or a deadlock. If this happens, the jury's foreperson sends a note to the judge advising that the jurors cannot reach a unanimous agreement.

I guess it depends on what you call short or long...

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Quick verdict vs a long verdict (Original Post) Beachnutt May 29 OP
All it takes is one MAGA asshole willing to take a bribe and.. yourout May 29 #1
You have zero evidence to support that assertion. NanaCat May 29 #5
You can't really infer anything from the amount of time they are taking. Ocelot II May 29 #2
The Jury bdamomma May 29 #3
And many legal experts NanaCat May 29 #4
Glenn Kirschner Says A Good Rule Of Thumb Is......... ChoppinBroccoli May 29 #6


(2,332 posts)
5. You have zero evidence to support that assertion.
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:48 PM
May 29

We don't know if someone has been turned, or if they will stay turned or any of that. We don't know what they're thinking--and we can't know.

All we can do is wait to see what verdict they render, rather than making baseless assertions about what they'll do.

Ocelot II

(117,762 posts)
2. You can't really infer anything from the amount of time they are taking.
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:34 PM
May 29

There is a lot of detail in this case, and they are probably trying to be as careful and thorough as possible. In some cases juries deliberate for days, even weeks. A quick verdict often means a conviction, but that's not always the case.


(64,687 posts)
3. The Jury
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:39 PM
May 29

was asked in closing argument to review the 2 meetings in August 2015 by Prosecutor Steinglass. Hopefully that's a good sign. I hope they do the right thing.



(2,332 posts)
4. And many legal experts
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:41 PM
May 29

Think that quick verdicts tend to be bad verdicts, and longer deliberations demonstrate a sound and fair consideration of the case presented to them. If it drags out too long, of course that indicates trouble; however, with a complicated case or one that has a great number of charges to consider, a few days or even a week of deliberation is considered the sign of a diligent jury.

I wouldn't worry about it unless it goes longer than a week.


(3,802 posts)
6. Glenn Kirschner Says A Good Rule Of Thumb Is.........
Wed May 29, 2024, 11:45 PM
May 29

................one day of deliberations per week of trial. So we're probably looking at next week.

And my experience has always been that fast verdicts are usually guilty verdicts, but I've had juries come back quick with not guilty verdicts as well. In this case, because the evidence is so overwhelming, I would think a quick verdict indicates a conviction.

I would guess that we're looking at several days of deliberations. They have 34 counts to consider, and they'll have to do each one individually. Invariably, there will be some "horse trading" as to which to find him guilty of and which to toss as well. I would be shocked if there was a guilty verdict on all 34 counts.

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