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bigtree

(87,885 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:43 AM Jul 10

This right here is a billion times more newsworthy and potentially catastrophic than Biden losing his train of thought

Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ
Trump says he threatened to not support America’s NATO allies against Russia: That’s right, I will not protect you if Russia attacks

Bob Cesca @bobcesca_go
This right here is a billion times more newsworthy and potentially catastrophic than Biden losing his train of thought on TV. And it's not the first time he said it, either. Where are our priorities?




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This right here is a billion times more newsworthy and potentially catastrophic than Biden losing his train of thought (Original Post) bigtree Jul 10 OP
K&R Think. Again. Jul 10 #1
Kick dalton99a Jul 10 #2
And the thing you cannot get through to some people is that Biden is the one who defeated Peacetrain Jul 10 #3
Bob Cesca was just on the Stephanie Miller Show... rubbersole Jul 10 #4
trumps fans looked bored. riversedge Jul 10 #5
they'd been there some 4 hours in the blazing sun with little water bigtree Jul 10 #6
Biden has every opportuntiy.... TheRealNorth Jul 10 #7
this is something that Democrats fail at consistently - ProfessorPlum Jul 10 #23
TFG's reason for quitting NATO no longer exists Warpy Jul 10 #8
It never existed, at least the way he misunderstood it as some sort of "delinquent" membership dues William Seger Jul 10 #17
This fool doesn't even know how NATO works... bsiebs Jul 10 #9
Well, I guess if you want to understand and defeat trump, calimary Jul 10 #12
Well, he says he only took 2 minutes to learn about NATO William Seger Jul 10 #18
Well then, since ol' Donald poopy-pants does not pay U.S. taxes, the Secret Service should stop guarding him ffr Jul 10 #10
I like it. calimary Jul 10 #13
I thought the same thing. Grammy23 Jul 10 #21
But there's no collusion. No collusion. Beartracks Jul 10 #11
And yet, . . . peggysue2 Jul 10 #14
Also happy feet Jul 10 #15
Trump pulled U.S. troops out of Syria literally overnight, DENVERPOPS Jul 10 #16
What was the purpose of the US Troop presence? TheRealNorth Jul 10 #25
I don't know about ISIS DENVERPOPS Jul 10 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author TheRealNorth Jul 12 #28
He's not going to protect us either Beck23 Jul 10 #19
Recommended bagimin Jul 10 #20
No wonder Putin and his bots are supporting Trump in the election surfered Jul 10 #22
It is not about journalism or what is newsworthy senseandsensibility Jul 10 #24
Unfortunately, white wingers love it when trump says NATO nations have to pay more. Silent Type Jul 10 #26
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I will shout it from the rooftops. Initech Jul 12 #29
Right!! Cha Jul 12 #32
Not much in the media about this. republianmushroom Jul 12 #30
Siberian Candidate who's Already committed Treason and Felonies. Cha Jul 12 #31

Peacetrain

(23,516 posts)
3. And the thing you cannot get through to some people is that Biden is the one who defeated
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:25 AM
Jul 10

him last time.. He has the stamina to stand up to that insane rage, very very few in the republican/trumplican party can do that and look what that walrus did to the Grand Old Party

The are off in some fantasy world where they will pick this younger person who will ride in on a white horse and beat down the dragon.. That they the chosen ones will decide who our candidate is not those of us who have already put our support behind.

If we think this is ugly, try putting an untested person into the fray of the Trumplican supported by Putin machine.

Give me my tested and proven person who I know can defeat him..

bigtree

(87,885 posts)
6. they'd been there some 4 hours in the blazing sun with little water
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:39 AM
Jul 10

...and Trump was over an hour late.

He started complaining about 13 minutes in that HIS 'water station' wasn't stocked and he was hot.

TheRealNorth

(9,618 posts)
7. Biden has every opportuntiy....
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 10

To talk to the media, and talk about these Republican controversies. That's what Republicans do - they stick to their narrative about what they want to talk about and either dodge the questions or lie.

I always thought this was obvious, but maybe not.

ProfessorPlum

(11,316 posts)
23. this is something that Democrats fail at consistently -
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 04:06 PM
Jul 10

they think that the media is going to do its job and report on important problems and issues for the GOP. And the media just doesn't do it. They need someone who is complaining to come to them and make accusations/complain/point fingers/etc. The Democrats in general leave it up to the media to decide what is news - and miss every opportunity to MAKE the news by driving the narrative.

It's maddening. I guess I get why they do it - they respect the idea of the media being its own editor - but it leaves them completely vulnerable to being unarmed in a war with terrible people who DO try to drive the narrative.

You don't have to work the refs like the GOP does - but you have to tell the story to the media, constantly.

Frustrating.

Warpy

(112,234 posts)
8. TFG's reason for quitting NATO no longer exists
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:45 AM
Jul 10

because Russia has frightened most of Europe into devoting more of their budgets to defense spending, meaning the US and its "nuclear umbrella" aren't the only things protecting western Europe. They've realized they have to fear conventional war, also, and that Russia remains a very bad actor.

Dion't expect Florida Fatso to have noticed the changes. He's still living in the past while trying to please Putin.

bsiebs

(718 posts)
9. This fool doesn't even know how NATO works...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jul 10

What the fuck does he mean “sir, if we don’t pay our bills…”. Is NATO a subscription service?

calimary

(82,717 posts)
12. Well, I guess if you want to understand and defeat trump,
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jul 10

maybe you have to look at things the way a chiseling apartment building owner does.

William Seger

(10,851 posts)
18. Well, he says he only took 2 minutes to learn about NATO
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jul 10

... but he isn't fooling anyone: His attention span is about 10 seconds on a good day. He STILL hasn't learned how tariffs work, either.

They say the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance is curable. By that measure, willful ignorance is indistinguishable from stupidity.


ffr

(22,824 posts)
10. Well then, since ol' Donald poopy-pants does not pay U.S. taxes, the Secret Service should stop guarding him
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:22 AM
Jul 10

And the police should not policing his motorcades.

Why do our institutions tolerate this bullshit? Cut him off!

Grammy23

(5,849 posts)
21. I thought the same thing.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:08 PM
Jul 10

If Deadbeat Donald doesn’t pay HIS bills, what should happen??
Hmmmm, lemme see. Maybe bring back debtor’s prison …..just for him. Name it for him. Deadbeat Donald’s Correctional Institute. I like that. Has a nice ring to it.

peggysue2

(11,122 posts)
14. And yet, . . .
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jul 10

The NYTs claims that supporting democracy is . . .

Partisan in nature!

Agent Orange can say any and every disloyal thing imaginable and the media yawns because it's old news, stale, just Trump flapping his lips.

There's got to be a special place in Hell for this willful blindness!

happy feet

(983 posts)
15. Also
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jul 10

I've not heard one major media outlet discuss what TFG said during the debate - paraphased "I've made a deal w/Putin for the return of the WSJ journalist without any payment".

WTF? I had heard reports prior that TFG was sending those around him to.meet w/Putin and his govt... What happened to the outrage over "we only have one President at a time?" Oh, that's right --- TFG can President anytime he wants without consequence---the same as take WH official docs, foster insurrection, etc....

I've only listened to Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC sine the debate. Can't stand the sensationalism of Biden's age and purported (I don't buy it) cognitive decline. You can hear TFG's cognitive decline in his rallies--yet not one word---and his decline is precipitous since his trials and indictments.

Down to my hometown newspaper - Wash Post, but staying away from even that with the numerous articles on Biden's age every day before and more now after the debate.

DENVERPOPS

(9,309 posts)
16. Trump pulled U.S. troops out of Syria literally overnight,
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jul 10

for no legitimate reason, even telling the troops to leave their equipment and everything...................

Those U.S. troops were keeping Assad from wiping out the resistance, and taking complete control of power of Syria......

The UN and Hague? had JUST days before, completed a lengthy investigation (re Assad ignoring Geneva Convention Rules) that Assad had used chemical weapons against the resistance in several villages and towns.......

The evidence un-questionably showed that Assad had dropped RUSSIAN made Chemical Weapon bombs, chlorine? gas, on his own citizens. They were provided to Assad by Putin..... The Chemical weapon bomb fragments were confirmed by the U.N. team as supplied by Assad's best buddy, Putin. The U.N also concluded from their investigation that the bomb fragments did, in fact, contain evidence of the Chlorine gas.

Trump's actions had prevented Putin from being charged with International War Crimes in the Hague.......Clearly allowing Assad, who is Putin's puppet, to take complete control of Syria.......

Our troops and the U.N. investigators were lucky to get out of Syria with their lives.......

TheRealNorth

(9,618 posts)
25. What was the purpose of the US Troop presence?
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 05:36 PM
Jul 10

Was it destroying ISIS or Regime Change?

If ISIS was neutralized, why remain? Although I think the real reason we left was because Turkey wanted to go after the Kurds, who were helping us against ISIS (and ironically, that ended up causing the Kurds and Assad to strike a deal).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/14/middleeast/syria-turkey-kurds-civilians-isis-intl-hnk

DENVERPOPS

(9,309 posts)
27. I don't know about ISIS
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jul 10

But the troops were definitely there as a deterrent to Assad going to great lengths to get rid of the resistance to his admin which were the Kurds. The U.S. sure as hell didn't want Assad, bestest buddies with Putin, to roll over to Russian control.

The UN/Hague had JUST completed, all the definitive proof they needed, for the Hague to Charge Putin/Assad with international war crimes for the use of Chlorine Gas Bombs......and somehow that all went away coincidentally at the same time of the troop withdrawal happened.....???????????????/ The small towns and villages Putin/Assad used the chemical weapons on, were all suspected strongholds of the Kurds. The pictures I saw, of women and children lying in the streets and roads were beyond horrific, and death by chlorine is horrible my sources told me.......

I told my son, when he was a teen, that "we probably don't want to know about hundreds of things that are going on"......He commented: "and we probably don't want to know"........

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #27)

Silent Type

(4,730 posts)
26. Unfortunately, white wingers love it when trump says NATO nations have to pay more.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jul 10

GOPers have been against foreign countries/people for decades.

Initech

(100,647 posts)
29. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I will shout it from the rooftops.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:17 PM
Jul 12

VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL NOT STOP AT UKRAINE!!!! HE IS OUT FOR WORLD DOMINATION! HE MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS!!!

Right now, the United States is the only thing standing in his way. If we bow to authoritarianism, guess what? Putin wins. He gets a blank check to finish Ukraine and head towards Sweden and Belarus.

And after he conquers Europe, guess who's next? Yes. Us.

So keep with your fucking wallets, MAGAs. There won't be a United States left to protect once Trump and his goons get their way.

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