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kpete

(72,733 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:16 AM Aug 2

Schumer: A leading Republican senator said to me this morning, "We are going to lose because of this guy."

Schumer: The lower Trump gets in the polls, the more unhinged he becomes. He is unhinged. He is scared. A leading Republican senator said to me this morning, "We are going to lose because of this guy."


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Schumer: A leading Republican senator said to me this morning, "We are going to lose because of this guy." (Original Post) kpete Aug 2 OP
Jon Stewart: "you guys can replace your old guy too!" ColinC Aug 2 #1
He seemed more concerned about replacing displacedvermoter Aug 2 #29
The real answer is: you did this to yourself. Happy Hoosier Aug 2 #54
Would still love to see the President sit down displacedvermoter Aug 2 #56
Never would a loss be more deserved Johonny Aug 2 #2
Well, that's partially true anyway. CrispyQ Aug 2 #3
replace " this guy" GusBob Aug 2 #15
and don't forget Trump did his damnedest to fix the 2020 election in his favor.. agingdem Aug 2 #40
"...in Trump's toxic mind where everyone is as corrupt as he is..." CrispyQ Aug 2 #46
DeJoy will still be there on Election Day 2024. Marcuse Aug 2 #48
True but DeJoy is without backup.. agingdem Aug 2 #57
What I want to know is does that prospect also include no_hypocrisy Aug 2 #4
I thought it was implied in the "we" I could be wrong. mucifer Aug 2 #6
A consummation devoutly to be wished. ChazInAz Aug 2 #21
'Tis indeed! alterfurz Aug 3 #66
Race has always been their Kryptonite Johnny2X2X Aug 2 #5
I think race worked for them decades ago when Reagan did it more in coded language with mucifer Aug 2 #7
Yes, Reagan succeeded because he did it "with discretion," something Trump is incable of. ShazzieB Aug 2 #50
Hope so! We need black turnout to the max especially in the big cities like Philly dsp3000 Aug 2 #11
"Colored people"...? Wednesdays Aug 2 #38
They also hate women. suegeo Aug 2 #41
Agree! Johnny2X2X Aug 2 #55
No Party has ever deserved it more BoRaGard Aug 2 #8
After observing 4 horrible years of him as POTUS, they had over 3 years to figure out a way to get him out of politics. tanyev Aug 2 #9
They had two golden opportunities to send him packing and they balked. bluesbassman Aug 2 #22
In 2015 the markodochartaigh Aug 2 #26
Yes, and like so many things before and since, the chose poorly. bluesbassman Aug 2 #45
Bingo! Xolodno Aug 2 #62
party before country Skittles Aug 2 #60
That was one of the most overt racist things I have heard a politician say... kentuck Aug 2 #10
I'm dreaming of a blue country. It would be nice to clean up some of the Republican shit dumped on the U.S. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2 #12
You know, I'd be happy with going back to the Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2 #17
It's the concentrated money in the background... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2 #19
Well, they were given 2 chances to get rid of him. Turbineguy Aug 2 #13
Republicans will deserve it if they lose Renew Deal Aug 2 #14
"...republicans start to clean up the magats." markodochartaigh Aug 2 #28
Sleep with dogs Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2 #16
Word RainCaster Aug 2 #18
Agree in concept, but... YodaMom2 Aug 2 #39
So they keep supporting and enabling him? PatSeg Aug 2 #20
Every politician hates Trump. The only reason he's supported are his poll numbers. yardwork Aug 2 #23
They kept playing the race card with Obama Farmer-Rick Aug 2 #24
Racism Keepthesoulalive Aug 2 #33
Of course trump is scared birdographer Aug 2 #25
We will know if he won in 100 days nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2 #51
LOL Skittles Aug 2 #61
yeah well these fascist clowns were just fine with him when he was winning. Voltaire2 Aug 2 #27
First of all to the R senator: no shit Sherlock! Tadpole Raisin Aug 2 #30
Please proceed cutroot Aug 2 #31
My hope Playingmantis Aug 2 #32
They are going to lose because they are no damn good. Dan Aug 2 #34
Good. We need to get the republican party small enough to drown in the bathtub. Comfortably_Numb Aug 2 #35
WOW, I had forgotten all about old Grover! generalbetrayus Aug 2 #42
A bathtub is too generous and risky, lets get them down at least TheKentuckian Aug 2 #58
Good because that Senator wants nothing good for America either and didn't have the balls to do something about him long onecaliberal Aug 2 #36
The correct response to that is, "Bed. Made. Lie." GoCubsGo Aug 2 #37
Duh, they been losing for some time now. Emile Aug 2 #43
Kick dalton99a Aug 2 #44
Reality: He was going to lose to Joe anyway getagrip_already Aug 2 #47
Joe Biden was a shoo-in for re-election. valleyrogue Aug 3 #65
Unhinged and dangerous. Expect some potentially violent behavior when the counting votes begins. Joinfortmill Aug 2 #49
Yep Backseat Driver Aug 2 #52
Just wait till Trump starts blabbing about how Putin was involved last time and is gonna help him again. flying_wahini Aug 2 #53
he's not the only reason, assholes Skittles Aug 2 #59
And Yet You Handed Him Your Nomination Anyway. BOO HOO. ChoppinBroccoli Aug 3 #63
Bravo Sen Schumer!! TY Cha Aug 3 #64

Happy Hoosier

(8,225 posts)
54. The real answer is: you did this to yourself.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:28 PM
Aug 2

Their party embraced racism, misogyny and other bigotry. They protected him despite hos very obvious crimes. They could have rid themselves of him, but instead chose to embrace him. FAFO.

displacedvermoter

(2,491 posts)
56. Would still love to see the President sit down
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:39 PM
Aug 2

with Stewart and tell him, politely, to stuff himself and his arrogance.

Johonny

(21,683 posts)
2. Never would a loss be more deserved
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:18 AM
Aug 2

Trump is the worst humanity has to offer. It's so obvious. It is and will always be scary how many people support him.

CrispyQ

(37,694 posts)
3. Well, that's partially true anyway.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:20 AM
Aug 2

"We are going to lose AGAIN, because of this guy."

There. Fixed it. They only won once with this guy & that was cuz of a centuries old stupid rule that should be abolished. Technically, he lost by over 3 million votes in 2016.

agingdem

(8,464 posts)
40. and don't forget Trump did his damnedest to fix the 2020 election in his favor..
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2

months before the election Trump knew he was going to lose because of his disasterous handling of the pandemic so he and his guys concocted a plan to steal the election...Bill Barr began questioning the validity of mail-in ballots, Louis DeJoy slowed the mail, removed mailboxes, and trashed sorting machines, and state election officials eliminated vote centers...Trump did his part by warning his rally goers the only way he could lose is if Biden rigged the election...add to that, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and Rudy Giuliani knew the early returns would favor Trump and they advised Trump to declare victory the night of the election and demand the vote count stop...but if the count continued (it did) and Biden won (he did), then they would file multiple lawsuits challenging the outcome convinced Trump's assholes on the Supreme Court would decide in Trump's favor citing Gore v Bush as precedent...

Trump's rage obsession with the 2020 election stems from one thing....Trump thought he had the election in the bag and, yet, he lost...so in Trump's toxic mind where everyone is as corrupt as he is, that meant Biden "out-fixed" Trump's fixed election...oh my!

CrispyQ

(37,694 posts)
46. "...in Trump's toxic mind where everyone is as corrupt as he is..."
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:55 AM
Aug 2

LOL. That's what screwed him this time, too. He assumed Biden would never drop out cuz he would never drop out.

agingdem

(8,464 posts)
57. True but DeJoy is without backup..
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 02:08 PM
Aug 2

Bill Barr is forever trying to reinvent himself with no success...Trump resurrected Bull Connor and is spewing the same old 1950's racist hate vomit/and shitting the bed ...Steve Bannon is in the slammer and about to go on trial for fraud...Rudy is broke and sucking down a bourbon somewhere in Florida...and still irrelevant Roger Stone is floating in and out of Infowars railing against Bill Clinton...





no_hypocrisy

(48,198 posts)
4. What I want to know is does that prospect also include
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:25 AM
Aug 2

Republicans running for Congress and the Senate will suffer the same fate?

Johnny2X2X

(21,238 posts)
5. Race has always been their Kryptonite
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:27 AM
Aug 2

They are incapable of discussing race, period. And no one more so than Trump. And what's worse for them is that Trump is incapable of letting it go now, he absolutely cannot just take the loss and change the subject.

You've got multiple Trump surrogates now saying "colored people." You've got his team Tweeting racist memes. They are absolutely doubling down on Trump's performance at the NABJ. He thinks he has a win on this still, because he fuindamentally misunderstands black culture. He thinks people don't understand mixed races. He thinks black people will consider Harris less black because she's half Indian, that's not how that works. Kamala's Indian mother didn't make her any less the target of racism than any other black person out there, she's had the full experience regardless of being of mixed heritage. And I believe the longer he holds onto this, the more likely it is he lets slip something he can't take back.

Harris is going to win the black vote more than Obama did. It's going to be 97-3 and it's going to come with record black turnout.

mucifer

(24,587 posts)
7. I think race worked for them decades ago when Reagan did it more in coded language with
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:34 AM
Aug 2

discretion. Today for now anyway, it's not working.

ShazzieB

(18,140 posts)
50. Yes, Reagan succeeded because he did it "with discretion," something Trump is incable of.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:15 PM
Aug 2

Trump doesn't know how to do anything with discretion, and his dementia is gradually eating away at whatever self control he once had. He showed more of his ugly racist side at the NABJ interview than he ever has before, and it's only going to get worse.

I think having to run against Kamala instead of Joe is his worst nightmare. It has brought out the worst in him and will continue to do so. With luck, the downward spiral will accelerate between now and November. He has cultists who will stick with him no matter what, but at the rate he's going he will lose more and more of the fence sitters and the people who would normally vote Republican no matter what.

suegeo

(2,796 posts)
41. They also hate women.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:39 AM
Aug 2

Women only got the vote in 1920.

Credit cards, banking. in the 1970s.

No more bodily autonomy. Are women even human? Katie Britt and her creepy kitchen.

Opus Dei, Robert Hansen. Lenny Leo. Kevin Richards and Heritage Founding. Brett Kavenaugh.

I could go on, but there's that old saying about the abyss.

Johnny2X2X

(21,238 posts)
55. Agree!
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:45 PM
Aug 2

He cannot handle running against a woman, much less a black woman. He is racist, he is sexist, and this is not going to go well for him.

BoRaGard

(2,333 posts)
8. No Party has ever deserved it more
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:35 AM
Aug 2

If repubes would do something positive for America once in a while, instead of lying, cheating, whining, and acting like a-hole bullies, they would probably be digging themselves a shallower shithole.

tanyev

(44,079 posts)
9. After observing 4 horrible years of him as POTUS, they had over 3 years to figure out a way to get him out of politics.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:37 AM
Aug 2

They continued to support and enable him.

bluesbassman

(19,699 posts)
22. They had two golden opportunities to send him packing and they balked.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:32 AM
Aug 2

If they had any character in their spines they would have stood up to the base and told them the truth about Trump by impeaching and convicting him. But the reality is they’re all scared to death of their own people, and that says even more about those people, our neighbors, co-workers, etc. than it does about the convicted felon. That’s his real legacy, that he exposed the festering boil among our populace and legitimized it.

markodochartaigh

(1,764 posts)
26. In 2015 the
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:03 AM
Aug 2

Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate. But they realized that because Trump was so wildly popular with the 80% of their base who are authoritarians, they could not win without him. So they put party before country and chose Trump. The corporate Republicans knew that with Trump there was a possibility of destroying democracy in the US. What they were in denial about was that choosing an authoritarian Strong Leader was likely to destroy their party.

bluesbassman

(19,699 posts)
45. Yes, and like so many things before and since, the chose poorly.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:44 AM
Aug 2

I think it was retNewt Gingrich who ushered in the “take no prisoners - Party before Country” brand of politics that is fully embraced by MAGA and the Freedom Caucus today.

Trump was not an unknown quantity back in ‘15. Surely the GOP leadership knew who and what he was. What they miscalculated on was the base. They knew Trump was an easily manipulated tool, but they didn’t anticipate how voraciously the base would latch on yo his racist fueled populism and how rabidly they would punish anyone in their party who stepped out of line.

Xolodno

(6,626 posts)
62. Bingo!
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:49 PM
Aug 2

Prior to Newt Grinch...I mean Gingrich, Dem's and Pub's would meet afterwards for coffee, at a bar, etc. to hammer out a compromise that was mutually beneficial. He not only ended it, even forbade other Pub's to use the gym at the same time as Dem's were. Everything had to go through him. Now, everything is heavily polarized. Stray from the purity and you get primaried.

I keep thinking, something has to give at some point...but it hasn't.

kentuck

(112,393 posts)
10. That was one of the most overt racist things I have heard a politician say...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:39 AM
Aug 2

"I didn't know she was black".

He knew she was black but he didn't know if his supporters knew she was black? He wanted them to know because he knows they are racist and would never vote for her if they knew she was black. He wanted to educate them.

He is a despicable human being.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,164 posts)
12. I'm dreaming of a blue country. It would be nice to clean up some of the Republican shit dumped on the U.S.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:44 AM
Aug 2

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,842 posts)
17. You know, I'd be happy with going back to the
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:10 AM
Aug 2

left-blue vs. centrist-red two party system we used to have. There always were neo nazis and fringe far right radical groups - the difference now is that one of the two major parties got in bed with their far right radical white supremacist fringe thus enabling and empowering them. That element needs to be pushed back into the fringes where they belong. Once that happens then all the energy we are now putting into just holding the line against slipping into overt fascism then can go towards us working on other things like environment, restoring voter rights, etc.

Renew Deal

(82,798 posts)
14. Republicans will deserve it if they lose
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 09:52 AM
Aug 2

They knew what he was when they let his nomination happen. With any luck, Kamala wins by 10 points and republicans start to clean up the magats. I'm not counting on them doing it either way.

markodochartaigh

(1,764 posts)
28. "...republicans start to clean up the magats."
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:07 AM
Aug 2

For a democracy to be functional there must be at least two viable parties committed to democracy. The US only has one. Unless and until the corporate 20% of Republicans take back their party, or develop a viable new party committed to democracy, democracy in the US will be one election away from failure.

YodaMom2

(38 posts)
39. Agree in concept, but...
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:37 AM
Aug 2

Dogs are good people. The current incarnation of the R party is not. I’d be more concerned about what the DOGS might catch.

PatSeg

(49,571 posts)
20. So they keep supporting and enabling him?
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:28 AM
Aug 2

They will lose and get exactly what they deserve. If nothing else, they're too stupid to hold office.

yardwork

(63,487 posts)
23. Every politician hates Trump. The only reason he's supported are his poll numbers.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:35 AM
Aug 2

If Trump starts tanking in the polls, he will not have a single political ally.

Farmer-Rick

(11,005 posts)
24. They kept playing the race card with Obama
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:42 AM
Aug 2

But it never stopped him. In fact, I think it helped him because it showed he wasn't afraid of the racism. And he would stand up to it.

I think the majority of Americans are Not racist. It's an issue the filthy-rich use as propaganda to keep workers from noticing the rich are picking our pockets and our tax dollars. Some people fall for it.

I don't know why but, when people are unstable they are more likely to be racist, misogynist, homophobic and bigots. Extreme racism can be a delusional symptom of a psychotic disorder. It can also be a symptom of milder personality disorders.

I think Pedo Trump and those weird people attracted to him, have serious psychological issues and need to stay away from the controls of power. Their mental issues and dementia are reflected in their racism. Unfortunately, in many countries, people with serious psychological problems are leaders.

Keepthesoulalive

(340 posts)
33. Racism
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 2

Is also cultural. Taught in churches, schools and around the dinner table. They want to feel superior to someone or anyone. It. Is the human condition.

birdographer

(2,284 posts)
25. Of course trump is scared
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:55 AM
Aug 2

If he loses, he doesn't just go back to his vermin-infested golf motel and play golf for the rest of his life. Not only is prison waiting for him, but the woman who beat him was a prosecutor. His life will be shit if he loses. And he sees that happening right in front of him, his campaign crumbling, his cult members starting to wonder what is going on, his republican minions in Congress starting to regret the entire ticket. He has to know that he is making huge mistakes.

I'm enjoying it immensely.

Tadpole Raisin

(1,357 posts)
30. First of all to the R senator: no shit Sherlock!
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:13 AM
Aug 2

2nd - you are losing because YOU weak ass people were too worried about keeping your jobs instead of following the constitution.

YOU had the ability to kick him out at the first impeachment and, much as I hate to say it, if you had done that Pence would have been president and statistically would likely have won reelection as the incumbent.

YOU are weak kneed, selfish, shortsighted, corrupt, and you have destroyed your party.

THAT is why you are going to lose.

I need a drink.

Playingmantis

(243 posts)
32. My hope
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:16 AM
Aug 2

I home Kamala cuts his balls off and shoves them down his fucking throat! Thats my idea of bipartisanship!

Dan

(3,936 posts)
34. They are going to lose because they are no damn good.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 2

Aside from the shit-head at the top of the ticket.

They are on the wrong side of everything that is good about America.

They are on the wrong side of everything it means to be decent, moral, honest, ethical and patriotic.

The nation/world could die because of them (Climate Change, lack of Clean Water, etc.,) and all they care about is power and praying to Trump as their savior. They have corrupted their Christian Religion in the name of Trump.

Yes, they should lose and more than that, we should brand them - decent people all, with Trump as their false image.

When we finally know the truth about Trump and what he has done to the nation; and when we know what the GOP has done in service to Trump; then should all the people that supported the GOP be forever branded as such.

onecaliberal

(35,219 posts)
36. Good because that Senator wants nothing good for America either and didn't have the balls to do something about him long
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:23 AM
Aug 2

ago.

GoCubsGo

(32,801 posts)
37. The correct response to that is, "Bed. Made. Lie."
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:26 AM
Aug 2

I hope Schumer at least came close to that, but not holding my breath on that.

getagrip_already

(16,963 posts)
47. Reality: He was going to lose to Joe anyway
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 11:57 AM
Aug 2

Sure, everyone is all happy and giddy right now, but none of us have actually changed our votes or decided to vote.

Nobody who was upset about roe is any more upset.

Nobody who was worried about freedom is any more worried.

We may have a few more votes, but we were going to win anyway.

valleyrogue

(759 posts)
65. Joe Biden was a shoo-in for re-election.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 12:54 AM
Aug 3

There was never any doubt. He would have won easily. Him being forced out and replaced by Harris made our chances more iffy, but Trump and Vance are doing the Democrats' dirty work for them and are continually self-destructing. I am pretty confident the Democrats will retain the White House at the very least.

Backseat Driver

(4,574 posts)
52. Yep
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2
"He is unhinged." HE IS WEIRD and dangerous to the security of the world, so he will LOSE (again).

What's that about an ACE up his sleeve he mentioned to his cult on his failing social media platform? Will he rise on the third day? Naw, dead is dead, and he's just damn lucky to still be alive by a hair hanging over his ear. Will the confederate GOP, fearful of his wrath and his Christofascist cult of hate rise up together in a second insurrection or worse on the third day? Begs the question about what day was conveyed, no?

flying_wahini

(7,811 posts)
53. Just wait till Trump starts blabbing about how Putin was involved last time and is gonna help him again.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:26 PM
Aug 2

It’s gonna happen. He can’t shut up and will say anting to keep the attention on himself.


ChoppinBroccoli

(3,875 posts)
63. And Yet You Handed Him Your Nomination Anyway. BOO HOO.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 12:09 AM
Aug 3

You know, for a NORMAL Party, any ONE of the things Trump has done over the last decade would be disqualifying. Cheating on your third wife with a porn star while she was pregnant and then committing fraud to cover it up? Go home. Making fun of a disabled reporter? You're done. Calling veterans "suckers" and "losers"? Buh-bye. Getting impeached once, let alone twice? Out of there. ONE criminal conviction, let alone 34 felonies? Are you serious? Being adjudged guilty of rape? Forget about it. Tried to overthrow your own government? JFC.

But NONE of that was disqualifying for you guys. So now you get to live with the consequences of your decisions.

You know, Gary Hart was photographed on a boat with a woman who wasn't his wife and it ENDED his Presidential campaign. That's it. Just photographed with another woman. Al Franken was photographed ACTING like he was going to do something to a sleeping woman (he didn't even do it) TWENTY YEARS in the past, and he got drummed out of the Senate. But for the Republican Party, no bar is too low. Wanna know why? Because..........THEY. BELIEVE. IN. NOTHING.

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