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It's not the last of Trump once he loses (Original Post) JuJuChen Aug 12 OP
He will run again in 2028 Johnny2X2X Aug 12 #1
Good. He'll be babbling and drooling even more then. unblock Aug 12 #4
And... 2naSalit Aug 12 #14
Agree Johnny2X2X Aug 12 #16
Especially if there is a down ticket blue wave central scrutinizer Aug 12 #25
From prison? ProudMNDemocrat Aug 12 #8
Unfortunately Johnny2X2X Aug 12 #18
☹️ Bucky Aug 12 #21
He will never stop runnin, ala 2020... getagrip_already Aug 12 #9
Here, you need this NJCher Aug 12 #11
He will announce that he's running again so he can keep grifting from his cult. Lonestarblue Aug 12 #15
I don't see how they can dump him wryter2000 Aug 12 #28
Which Republican leaders ? JI7 Aug 13 #53
Lord, I hope so. Oopsie Daisy Aug 12 #26
If that happens, I don't think he'll be alive. GaYellowDawg Aug 12 #27
He'll be 82 years old then. I doubt he would get the nomination, especially if he loses this year. OLDMDDEM Aug 13 #51
It will give our gang a great chance to pad their lead, GreenWave Aug 13 #60
And I would add even his demise doesn't ALBliberal Aug 12 #2
Yup. The media will still have a strong right-wing bias and billionaires will still fund the march toward autocracy unblock Aug 12 #5
And that's what's so depressing Jerry2144 Aug 12 #6
I Think It Calms Significantly ProfessorGAC Aug 12 #19
This is a most depressing thought. North Shore Chicago Aug 12 #3
For some reason he makes me think of this song. "I Started a Joke" by the Bee Gees tetedur Aug 12 #7
Ha!!!! Traildogbob Aug 12 #30
I think his post-political career will be a weekly series of Torchlight Aug 12 #10
Need golden socks to go with those golden chucks Bucky Aug 12 #22
Traitor Turd might not make it to November. Kid Berwyn Aug 12 #12
who will replace him? NJCher Aug 12 #13
Tucker Carlson Cartoonist Aug 12 #29
re Carlson NJCher Aug 12 #40
Maga approves Cartoonist Aug 12 #41
that was acknowledged NJCher Aug 12 #42
Jon Voigt? Please. Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #46
yeah, and I didn't know who one of them even was NJCher Aug 13 #55
His only appeal to them is his authoritarianism birdographer Aug 13 #54
When a black man became President, the repukes lost their shit, and foisted Trump on us. Aristus Aug 12 #17
Dotard said if Biden won in 2020, we would never hear from him again.... Just another lie. keithbvadu2 Aug 12 #20
And the blessing of Trump (which we should all appreciate) is Dan Aug 12 #23
After November 5, he will only be known as "Defendent Trump." Sogo Aug 12 #24
I don't know about that. He has two kinds of followers. There are a few billionaires Scrivener7 Aug 12 #31
I'm wondering how well mantained Arne Aug 12 #32
No doubt he and his B.See Aug 12 #35
Maybe his new strategy is to be declared. Turbineguy Aug 12 #33
He'll never go away XanaDUer2 Aug 12 #34
I would not be surprised to see TFG flee the country if he loses LetMyPeopleVote Aug 12 #36
Why do people keep trotting out this stale nonsense? Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #48
TFG talked last night about fleeing to Venezuela if he loses LetMyPeopleVote Aug 13 #50
Even when he's incarcerated he will still try to keep his ugly face in the news ColinC Aug 12 #37
He can try all he wants to get attention from jail Zoomie1986 Aug 13 #49
I see him in prison starting 9.16.24 so IDKWYATA! Brainfodder Aug 12 #38
from 2025 to the pine box, he will be the Godfather of the GOP. WarGamer Aug 12 #39
Nope, until he drops dead, he's never going away. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 12 #43
TFG says he'll flee to Venezuela if he loses the election and invites Elon to visit him LetMyPeopleVote Aug 13 #44
The GQP will be done with him. Sky Jewels Aug 13 #45
As long as what's left of Trump haunting the news... RidinWithHarris Aug 13 #47
It will be the last of him as a candidate for president GoodRaisin Aug 13 #52
It has been said ... Straw Man Aug 13 #56
He's Venezuela's problem now lame54 Aug 13 #57
He'll announce his candidacy for 2028 shortly after the election. dalton99a Aug 13 #58
President of Venezuela? Metaphorical Aug 13 #59

2naSalit

(91,177 posts)
14. And...
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:05 PM
Aug 12

Attempting to run from his deathbed?

He's not gonna last that long. Losing this time will kill him, and I'm fine with that.

All the more reason to vote for Harris-Walz.

Johnny2X2X

(21,237 posts)
16. Agree
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:09 PM
Aug 12

I think after the loss this November, the GOP heads will make an earnest effort to finally cut him loose, but he won't let them go and his cult of voters is certainly doing whatever he asks. They're stuck with him until he dies.

central scrutinizer

(12,331 posts)
25. Especially if there is a down ticket blue wave
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:20 PM
Aug 12

Democratic Party candidates should tie their opponents to TSF and Dobbs and Project 2025 and hammer them.

ProudMNDemocrat

(18,550 posts)
8. From prison?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:59 PM
Aug 12

He will be in a Federal penitentiary for Sedition for the rest of his miserable as well as possible treason.

Kamala Harris wins in November, the Federal cases against him are back on the docket.

getagrip_already

(16,963 posts)
9. He will never stop runnin, ala 2020...
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:59 PM
Aug 12

Court challenges, scotus appeals, trying to get it to the house through certification blocks.

Then a bigger lie, ongoing grifting, more campigning, more friendly interviews, etc.

He will just grify on and on.

The election will just be a speed bump.

Lonestarblue

(11,355 posts)
15. He will announce that he's running again so he can keep grifting from his cult.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:05 PM
Aug 12

But I think Republican leaders will finally dump him if he loses again. Besides, by 2025 or 2026 he will either be in jail or in an assisted living facility for Alzheimer’s patients.

GaYellowDawg

(4,764 posts)
27. If that happens, I don't think he'll be alive.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:22 PM
Aug 12

I think if he loses again, it'll kill him. Maybe his sons can bury him in a sand trap.

unblock

(53,954 posts)
5. Yup. The media will still have a strong right-wing bias and billionaires will still fund the march toward autocracy
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:54 PM
Aug 12

ProfessorGAC

(68,864 posts)
19. I Think It Calms Significantly
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:31 PM
Aug 12

I think it's pretty clear the is a cult personality & it's not that easy to retain the commitment & passion when the original personality is gone.
The dictators of WW2 are a pretty good example.
The Italians right wasn't as motivated after Mussolini. They were still there, but far less proud of being & as vocal about the fascists.
The Germans who were all-in on Hitler wasn't accepting of a replacement after Hitler iced himself.
The Japanese people weren't looking for a replacement leader after Tojo was gone.
Think of Mao & Stalin, as well.
Replacing a cult leader to the satisfaction of the followers is not as easy as we'd think.

tetedur

(982 posts)
7. For some reason he makes me think of this song. "I Started a Joke" by the Bee Gees
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:56 PM
Aug 12

Last edited Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I started a joke
That started the whole world crying
But i didn't see...
That the joke was on me
I started to cry
That started the whole world laughing
If i'd only seen
That the joke was on me

I looked at the skies
Running my hands over my eyes
I fell out of bed
And hurt my head from the things that i said

I finally died
That started the whole world living
If i'd only seen
That the joke was on me

Traildogbob

(9,691 posts)
30. Ha!!!!
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:30 PM
Aug 12

a girl broke my heart as a teen when this came out.
But now…….this makes me laugh like hell instead of shedding tears back then.

Torchlight

(4,178 posts)
10. I think his post-political career will be a weekly series of
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:59 PM
Aug 12

unintentional impressions of Charlie Sheen, Lindsay Lohan, and Tom Cruise as he 'addresses' his melting base asking them for their money.

My guess is the GOP has another season of molting to go through after November, and that snake will be shedding a LOT of different skins to get rid of trump's stench.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
22. Need golden socks to go with those golden chucks
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:42 PM
Aug 12

To keep the big goldbrick covered slathered in the yellow stuff

Kid Berwyn

(17,312 posts)
12. Traitor Turd might not make it to November.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:00 PM
Aug 12

Guy's sinking to the bottom of the GOP Porta-Pity-Potty cesspool as we speak.

NJCher

(37,340 posts)
13. who will replace him?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:02 PM
Aug 12

name a few leaders who have the appeal to the crazies that he does.

Please. I'm waiting.

Tap tap tap.

NJCher

(37,340 posts)
40. re Carlson
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 06:30 PM
Aug 12

He will have some heavy baggage to overcome. Women are already organized and ready to vote against trump due to Roe. Here's what Carlson has said about women:

snip

Carlson found himself under intense scrutiny recently, as he insulted female soldiers, saying that having pregnant women fighting in our wars is “a mockery of the U.S. military.”

“So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars," he said on his Fox News program earlier in the month, referring to newly developed standards in the Army and efforts to create a flight suit for pregnant military personnel. “It's a mockery of the U.S. military. While China’s military becomes more masculine as it’s assembled the world’s largest navy, our military needs to become, as Joe Biden says, more feminine.”

snip

I'm not saying this will be unacceptable to republicans, but the female vote may be seen as just too powerful for him to gain any traction.

I don't see the female vote receding, even if Harris is elected. It's here to stay.

Another problem with Carlson is his demeanor: his perpetual scowl. He is not associated with lightheartedness or being upbeat as are Harris and Walz.

We are entering a new era and I think any future prospects from their position will have to take that into consideration. Carlson has the look of perpetual confusion on his face, which is not a good look when you're coming off of a confused figure like trump.

We're not going back: not to smallness, not to meanness, not to ugly behavior, and Carlson has all that in his background. As a public figure, it is easy to document.

Furthermore, he has the Putin problem (interview). Things do not look good for them on that front, either.

They can nominate him; they just won't be able to win with him.

NJCher

(37,340 posts)
55. yeah, and I didn't know who one of them even was
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:37 PM
Aug 13

a football player? Really?

Won't the repubs be sick of bain dramaged candidates by then?

birdographer

(2,284 posts)
54. His only appeal to them is his authoritarianism
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:28 PM
Aug 13

They will submit to and follow any dominant white male authoritarian as long as he hates who they hate (non-whites). I imagine they would actually prefer someone younger and less demented.

Aristus

(67,766 posts)
17. When a black man became President, the repukes lost their shit, and foisted Trump on us.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:09 PM
Aug 12

I can't even begin to imagine what loathsome, semi-evolved simian they're going to groom for the nomination in 2028 if Kamala Harris is President,

Dan

(3,936 posts)
23. And the blessing of Trump (which we should all appreciate) is
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:13 PM
Aug 12

That he is destroying the Republican Party and their reputation for all time.

They the GOP will never be able to get rid of the stain of Trump, like a skunk’s spray - it sticks to you. No amount of ketchup will remove the stench.

Scrivener7

(52,187 posts)
31. I don't know about that. He has two kinds of followers. There are a few billionaires
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:31 PM
Aug 12

who vote for him because he helps them hoard more money. But the majority are people who feel inferior and he tells them they're not. And because he's a guy with a lot of money, they think that when he tells them they're not inferior, that's true.

But Harris/Walz are showing what a laughingstock he is. They're making it clear that he's a loser. They're showing his followers he's just a peculiar, weird, incoherent worm of a man. And that makes people who have made him their savior into weirdo losers too.

Once that truth steeps into the red-hat seas, they won't be able to run away from him fast enough. There will always be a small number who don't get the memo, but I think in a few years, it'll be hard to find someone who admits to being an enthusiastic follower.

B.See

(2,912 posts)
35. No doubt he and his
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:41 PM
Aug 12

pedo pal Epstein had many a p-grabbin' good time aboard.

Of course Trump's now flying around in Epstein's old junker is purely coincidental.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
48. Why do people keep trotting out this stale nonsense?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:51 AM
Aug 13

He's now a convicted felon, so few countries will let him hide out with them. Some of them won't even let him set foot in their lands for that alone.

He can't abide people who 'talk funny,' and he's too old and stupid to pick up a foreign language as many countries require to live there.

Nearly every country that doesn't extradite to the US is brown and/or Muslim. He's alienated nearly all of them, one way or another, so they have zero interest in taking on the hassle he'd be.

Other countries aren't as enthralled with him as moron Americans are, so they won't give him the attention he thinks he's due.

Worst of all: Other countries have real journalists who will not kowtow to him or fluff him. He will not be able to bully them, so they will ask hard questions and demand followups and clarity from him. He can't stand that.

Anyone who thinks he's leaving is missing some fries from their Happy Meal.

LetMyPeopleVote

(152,604 posts)
50. TFG talked last night about fleeing to Venezuela if he loses
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:09 PM
Aug 13

TFG is running for POTUS to stay out of prison

TFG last night discussed fleeing to Venezuela if he losses



https://www.alternet.org/trump-musk-venezuela/

Legal experts jumped on Trump suggesting a trip to Venezuela, especially given his status as a convicted criminal awaiting sentencing.

“Trump is a convicted felon to be sentenced in a month and he’s talking about fleeing to a country that refuses US extradition requests,” observed MSNBC legal analyst Kristy Greenberg, a former SDNY Criminal Division Deputy Chief. “Anyone else would be in jail. Trump is showing yet again that he isn’t amenable to Probation’s supervision and must be sentenced to jail time.”

There are countries where TFG could flee which do not have an extradition treaty with the US


If TFG loses, TFG will do what he can to avoid jail.

ColinC

(10,164 posts)
37. Even when he's incarcerated he will still try to keep his ugly face in the news
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:02 PM
Aug 12

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2024, 09:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Wiping him out electorally won’t completely get rid of him but it would be humiliating enough to at least maybe not see anything from him for a few months.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
49. He can try all he wants to get attention from jail
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:57 AM
Aug 13

But good luck with that when he won't have a cellphone for social media, won't have unlimited computer access, won't have unlimited phone use, and won't have unlimited access to reporters, because prisons usually limit who can visit a prisoner to family and lawyers.

If he's not dead before he gets locked up, prison will kill him. Guaranteed.



BlueTsunami2018

(3,801 posts)
43. Nope, until he drops dead, he's never going away.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:05 PM
Aug 12

He’s not going to jail, he’s not fleeing the country, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

This asshole will haunt us until he keels over.

RidinWithHarris

(530 posts)
47. As long as what's left of Trump haunting the news...
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 03:46 AM
Aug 13

...is the story of Trump's world crumbling around him, ending with him serving time (even if no more satisfactory than house arrest), and dying in confinement, that's hearing about Trump that I can live with.

GoodRaisin

(9,449 posts)
52. It will be the last of him as a candidate for president
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:17 PM
Aug 13

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2024, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)

which is all I really care about. He’ll hang around in the news for prosecutions, incarceration, or fleeing the country - that kind of stuff. But he will no longer be relevant politically.

Straw Man

(6,736 posts)
56. It has been said ...
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 12:42 PM
Aug 13

... that everything Trump touches dies. This may turn out to be true of the Republican Party as well. If they stick with him after a 2024 loss, it's effectively a kamikaze mission.

Metaphorical

(2,055 posts)
59. President of Venezuela?
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 01:24 PM
Aug 13

Seriously, I think his kids will do him in, assuming Putin doesn't get him first, or Iranian assassins, or the drugs, or deranged MAGA kids, or just his own failing cognitive abilities. Suppose he does have Alzheimer's (and I think he does). In that case, he's also at risk for strokes and brain haemorrhages, a major coronary infarction, or any number of other potential medical conditions.

I think the reality is that even the MAGAts are struggling with him at this point - he's not extreme enough, and they are likely also coming to the same realization about his age and mental capacity. If he loses, he'll be 82 in 2028. Even if he wasn't showing fairly obvious signs of "early" onset Alzheimers, he's not going to lead their revolution.

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