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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is merely the cruder version of Ronald Reagan.
The GOP has been running in the modern era on racial messaging since 1968. Prior to that, of course, there were racists in the GOP, and as far back as post the US civil war, the GOP lily white faction enjoyed support.
But there are no substantive policy differences between Reagan and Trump, and each man used racism to motivate his supporters. Reagan did it with dog whistle language, and he also signaled where he stood by opening his initial campaign for the Presidency in Neshoba County, Mississippi.
Neshoba County was a backwater, even in Mississippi, but it was notorious for KKK rallies and being the area where three civil rights activists were murdered.
Trump has always been notorious for his racism, so when conservatives try to paint Trum as some sort of aberration, they are ignorant of history or lying.
multigraincracker
(33,711 posts)Went to OCS and became an officer. Only he didnt go to war as he stayed Stat Side and did recruitment films.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)He was downright regressive in many of his policies. But that said, he was loyal to the United States. Trump and Reagan are just not in the same category. Reagan, especially in Central America, betrayed American values, but he didn't outright oppose them. He didn't financially benefit from political office.
There were plenty of scandals in his administration from bad actors (no pun!) who sought to profit from public office, but they were corrupt as a side-hustle to doing their jobs. Trump's principle purpose and main objective in holding the office was to grift the American people and make obscene amounts of loot. This is not a difference of degrees.
Well, you keep telling yourself that he didn't support Nazis, but his words and actions always made it clear that he wasn't any different from them, either as POTUS or as governor of CA.
Edited to add: And he did oppose American values like civil rights and especially the right to vote.
He was also an outright traitor for preventing those Iranian hostages from coming home as early as they could have.
Shame on you for trying to paint him as anything but the anti-American scum of the earth he was.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Squaredeal
(508 posts)I never understood why wage earners supported him. Now those paycheck to paycheck retired voters are paying taxes on their Social Security benefits, thanks to him.
Squaredeal
(508 posts)Who the working class voted for twice. He also raised the retirement age to 67 to collect.
Doodley
(10,048 posts)Comparative Analysis of Racism in the Policies and Rhetoric of Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump
Introduction
The examination of racism in American political leaders' rhetoric and policies provides crucial insights into how race relations and racial policies evolve over time. Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, two significant Republican presidents, are often scrutinized for their approaches to race and race-related issues. This report seeks to compare the racism associated with Ronald Reagan's and Donald Trump's presidencies, focusing on their policies, public statements, and broader impacts on race relations in the United States.
Ronald Reagan: Rhetoric and Policies
1. Public Statements and Rhetoric:
Ronald Reagan, the 40th President of the United States (1981-1989), is often remembered for his optimistic vision of America and his emphasis on individualism and self-reliance. However, his presidency was marked by rhetoric that many critics argue perpetuated racial stereotypes and inequalities:
Welfare Queen Narrative: Reagan popularized the term "welfare queen" to describe fraudulent claimants of public assistance, a characterization that critics argue reinforced racial stereotypes, particularly about Black women. This narrative was seen as an attempt to delegitimize welfare programs and paint recipients, predominantly minorities, as lazy or dishonest.
Opposition to Civil Rights Legislation: Reagan's opposition to certain civil rights measures, such as the extension of the Voting Rights Act and the creation of a federal holiday for Martin Luther King Jr., has been criticized for reflecting a lack of commitment to racial equality. Although he eventually signed a bill creating the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, his initial resistance was seen by many as emblematic of a reluctance to fully embrace civil rights advancements.
2. Policy Impacts:
Economic Policies: Reagan's economic policies, including significant tax cuts and reduced government spending, disproportionately affected marginalized communities. The reduction in social programs, combined with economic policies favoring the wealthy, exacerbated existing racial inequalities.
Criminal Justice Policies: Reagans administration took a hard stance on crime, which contributed to the escalation of the War on Drugs. The focus on mandatory minimum sentences and the construction of more prisons had a disproportionately negative impact on Black and Latino communities, leading to mass incarceration that critics argue was racially discriminatory.
Donald Trump: Rhetoric and Policies
1. Public Statements and Rhetoric:
Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States (2017-2021), frequently drew attention for his provocative and often racially charged rhetoric:
Birtherism: Trump was a prominent advocate of the birther movement, which questioned President Barack Obama's citizenship. This movement was widely criticized as a racially motivated attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the first Black president.
"Both Sides" Comment: In response to the violent clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia, Trump famously stated there were very fine people on both sides. This comment was perceived by many as an equivocation between white nationalists and those protesting against them, which many critics saw as condoning white supremacist views.
Border and Immigration Policies: Trumps rhetoric on immigration, including his description of Mexican immigrants as rapists and his policies aimed at restricting immigration, were criticized as racist. His administrations approach to separating families at the U.S.-Mexico border and the portrayal of immigrants as a threat contributed to perceptions of racial hostility.
2. Policy Impacts:
Immigration Policies: Trump's strict immigration policies, including the travel ban targeting predominantly Muslim countries, had significant racial and religious implications. These policies were seen as discriminatory and were heavily criticized for fostering a climate of xenophobia and racism.
Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement: While Trumps administration did promote some criminal justice reform, such as the First Step Act, his overall stance on law enforcement and his responses to incidents of police violence were often viewed as unsympathetic to racial justice concerns. His support for law enforcement and criticism of protest movements like Black Lives Matter were seen as dismissive of the issues raised by these movements.
Conclusion
Both Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump have been associated with policies and rhetoric that have had significant racial implications, though in different ways. Reagan's presidency saw the perpetuation of racial stereotypes through welfare rhetoric and a tough-on-crime approach that disproportionately impacted minorities. Trump's presidency was marked by explicit and inflammatory rhetoric, along with policies that critics argue exacerbated racial and ethnic divisions.
Understanding these dynamics is essential for assessing the impact of presidential leadership on race relations and for informing future policies aimed at addressing racial inequality.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)And yes, racism has been the hallmark of GOP policies and rhetoric since 1968.
Reagan used a dog whistle, Trump uses a bullhorn.
hatrack
(60,467 posts)Philadelphia, MS - yeah, fuck the "Great Communicator" and the elephant he rode in on.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,765 posts)Welcome back!
If youve been here all along and Ive somehow missed you, WTF welcome back anyway!