'This needs to be noticed': Former GOP strategist flags alarming Trump debate comment

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by Kathleen Culliton
Published September 11, 2024 3:09 PM ET

A former Republican political strategist Wednesday urged an investigation into a less-reported remark former President Donald Trump made during a tumultuous debate against Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trygve Olson, a senior adviser for the never-Trump conservative group Lincoln Project, raised concerns after Trump told Americans Tuesday night that he'd seen a controversial figure since leaving the White House: Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"This needs to be noticed in the post-debate coverage," Olson wrote. "Reporters must ask, 'When and where did this happen, particularly given the classified documents case?'"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2669167965/

I bet yes..............

[Ferryboat]

1. Thank god someone noticed this remark!

Caught my attention. No doubt NYT will get the to the bottom of this.

[johnnyfins]

7. Maggie Haberman is working on it now

[wolfie001]

36. She's probably sabotaged any attempt by that squalid paper to get to the bottom of it

She doesn't want to ruin any future book contract deals with those repulsive repukes.

[maxsolomon]

41. I'll give the NYT a head start: Trump is full of shit.

He didn't "see" Putin after he left the WH. He just lied.

Maybe there was a condolence call but Putin would have no use for MFer after he's out.

But make sure you get that 2 Minutes of NYT Hate in, every day.

[Figarosmom]

2. When was it their

Planes were parked next to each other on an airport tarmac?

[mitch96]

40. Yup, that got me thinking....WTF?

Just before the debate with Biden...

[Think. Again.]

3. We should create a "Department of Justice" to handle these kinds of things.

[BamaRefugee]

4. Yes, and serve milk toast in the cafeteria to keep them strong and brave

[wolfie001]

39. i just used milquetoast then I read your comment

I swear!!!

[BamaRefugee]

42. Hahahahahaha no worries. Milquetoast is a favorite word of mine too 🤓

[wolfie001]

43. Sycophant's another good one

Every member of donald dump's inner circle-jerk

[BamaRefugee]

44. They're SICK-Ophants.🤓

[wolfie001]

45. Boom!!!

[LuvLoogie]

6. Awesome idea.

We should do it.

[wolfie001]

38. "Paging Milquetoast Garland!!!".....

.....very quietly over a PA system somewhere

[robleb]

5. I wondered...

WHAT? When he said that. Didn't think about it later, but if it is true INVESTIGATE!

[Hekate]

11. Meeting foreign leaders has all been *out in the open* at Trump properties. Except Putin...

Definitely should follow up on them all — including Putin, now that he’s been mentioned.

[slightlv]

12. I noticed what you did, but I missed the

Putin specific reference.

[bdamomma]

10. I would have to

go back and listen to that comment from the debate. I know he was mentioning Orban, he has met with him and also Bibi.

But Putin??? is that correct???

[orangecrush]

13. KICK

[Lulu KC]

14. Or did he just imagine that he'd met with Putin?

Honestly, he can't control his lying. I hope it's true and that he gets in big trouble (sighing a little) but honestly. The only thing worse than a lying liar is a hallucinating lying liar.

[Lulu KC]

19. ?

[Frank D. Lincoln]

20. Aretha, is that you?

RIP.

[littlemissmartypants]

23. Pathological liar...

Pathological lying, also known as pseudologia fantastica (Latin for "fantastic pseudology" ) is a chronic behavior characterized by the habitual or compulsive tendency to lie.[1][2][3][4] It involves a pervasive pattern of intentionally making false statements with the aim to deceive others, sometimes for no clear or apparent reason, and even if the truth is beneficial to the liar. People who engage in pathological lying often claim to be unaware of the motivations for their lies.
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Definition
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Curtis and Hart (2020) defined pathological lying as "a persistent, pervasive, and often compulsive pattern of excessive lying behavior that leads to clinically significant impairment of functioning in social, occupational, or other areas; causes marked distress; poses a risk to the self or others; and occurs for longer than 6 months" (p. 63).[10]

Characteristics
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Defining characteristics of pathological lying include:

An internal motivation for the behavior cannot be readily discerned clinically: e.g., long-lasting extortion or habitual spousal battery might cause a person to lie repeatedly, without the lying being pathological.[3]
The stories are presented in a way that portrays the liar favorably. The liar "decorates their own person"[9][12] by telling stories that present them as the hero or the victim. For example, they might be presented as being fantastically brave, as knowing or being related to many famous people, or as having great power, position, or wealth.
Some psychiatrists distinguish compulsive from pathological lying, while others consider them equivalent. Others deny the existence of compulsive lying altogether; this remains an area of considerable controversy.[7]...
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Neurobiology
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Pathological lying shows a complex relationship with brain function. Compulsive lying has been reported in multiple neurological disorders, including early lesions of the prefrontal cortex,[17] developmental disruption of white matter pathways connecting frontal cortex with temporal, limbic and parietal regions,[18][19] disruptions to the functioning of the cingulate cortex,[18][20] and a putative phenocopy of behavioural variant frontotemporal dementia.[21] Taken together, these findings implicate dysfunction in the prefrontal and cingulate cortices, both of which are implicated in lie-telling in healthy individuals - the former across various types of lying (different subregions handling different kinds) and the latter only in feigning ignorance.[22][23] The mechanisms of how lesions to these structures induce lying are unknown, but it has been suggested that reduced affective theory of mind and loss of sociomoral affect may induce the desire to lie, while impaired inhibitory control may prevent the regulation of such urges.
Pathological lying which begins early in development (e.g., as part of psychopathic personality rather than being acquired by brain injury or disease) appears to relate to increased prefrontal white matter and reduced prefrontal activation when telling lies,[24][25] a significant finding given that prefrontal activation is normally increased during lie-telling.[26][27] These findings, alongside data showing pathological liars are faster at generating and telling lies,[27] have been taken to suggest that liars lack the cognitive control and socioaffective networks required for inhibiting truthful responses, monitoring behaviour and believability, and adjusting deceptions to fit changing facts may be more efficient in pathological liars.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying


❤️ pants

[Lulu KC]

24. Yup

That's him.

[littlemissmartypants]

25. It's scary to even think about him being president. I think we're lucky to have survived it once.

I'm not sure we'd be as lucky again.

[B.See]

15. I have little doubt that he'd

spoken with Putin at least a couple of times since leaving office, if not having actually met with him.

But then again, the guy's a raging LUNATIC. Probably met Hannibal Lecter as well.

[Jack Valentino]

16. Maybe he was just lying, as usual.... he makes up so many 'facts'

at the spur of the moment, just like he made up those poll numbers in the spin room

"90 percent.... 88 percent....77 percent"

[Arne]

26. Could Russia be demanding payment?

They may want the money back.
That would put Eric in danger. The New York mob is one thing,
the Russian mob are killers.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

30. The New York mob is the Russian Mob...

... Rudy ran the Italian families out/put in prison and the Russian Mob filled the vacuum(s).

[pat_k]

27. Don't mean to sane-wash, but it sounded to me . . .

. . .that he was saying "When I saw what Putin was doing." Not that he met with Putin.

Trump certainly needs to be asked to clarify wtf he was saying.

And in fact when I saw Putin after I left, unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell, but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it after I left, I said oh, he must be negotiating. It must be a good strong point of negotiation. Well, it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him. He had no idea how to stop it.

[intrepidity]

32. This was my interpretation as well

He need punctuation in his speaking.

[pat_k]

34. DT's inability to complete a thought without

. . .weird tangents makes it tough to follow.

Cut "unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell, but" you have:

"And in fact when I saw Putin after I left. . . after I left when I saw him building up soldiers"

[DallasNE]

28. It Has Been Noticed

Last edited Thu Sep 12, 2024, 06:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is the passage.

"when I saw Putin after I left—unfortunately left—because our country has gone to hell. But after I left, when I saw him building up soldiers, he did it after I left, I said, 'Oh, he must be negotiating. It must be a good, strong point of negotiation.

"Well, he wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him. He had no idea how to stop it," he said."

It is pretty clear in this exchange that he was talking about a period about 2-3 months before Putin invaded Ukraine. What was Trump advising Putin? Was it about NATO, possibly telling Putin that NATO was a paper tiger? Did Trump brief the State Department on his contact with Putin? Was it face-to-face or over the phone? Did he promise anything to Putin? How is this not a Logan Act violation?

(Addition) Trump claims he could end the war in 48 hours. He was President for 4 years and never lifted a finger to dislodge Putin/Russia from Ukraine. Indeed, Putin built the bridge linking Russia with Crimea while Trump was in office. So Trump had ample opportunity to talk to Putin about getting out of Ukraine and he never once lifted a finger to make it happen. He has no plan for Ukraine other than a likely surrender of more Ukraine land to Russia.

[Doodley]

29. Trump will say he was just being "sarcastic!"

[SupportSanity]

35. Trust, but verify.

To quote a former republican president when dealing with Russia.

[hadEnuf]

31. Of course Trump has spoken to Putin since he left office.

Why do we even try continue and delude ourselves he hasn't?

[ffr]

33. Chilling to any American assets abroad, knowing he stole U.S. secrets at the highest level

and that he considers a lawless Russian dictator as his friend and claims he's met with him after he left office.

[spanone]

37. K&R

I remember him saying that...