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Mike Pence with his daughter on Jan 6 (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Sep 2024 OP
I remember that picture, and the daughter was Very Pissed!! MacKasey Sep 2024 #1
That probably gave him the idea to in no way leave that building with Secret Service agents. brush Sep 2024 #26
The daughter looks pretty unhappy. Ocelot II Sep 2024 #2
She definitely looks PISSED. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #3
She does indeed. Ocelot II Sep 2024 #4
Ya, well I would be pissed too. sheshe2 Sep 2024 #5
And to top it off, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #9
And he didn't want history... rubbersole Sep 2024 #13
Quayle got it right and Pence, thank god, listened. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #15
I remember that part, where he refused, good choice. sheshe2 Sep 2024 #14
I never knew until now that the VP had their own "football" and that it was the Secret Service that carried it, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #16
That is what I thought. sheshe2 Sep 2024 #17
That is some scary shit, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #18
It's great, moves quickly and holds up well. nt A Clearing Sep 2024 #19
Excellent! sheshe2 Sep 2024 #20
Stephan King is one of my favorite authors MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #21
Wow. I didn't know that either! electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #24
I've often wondered when Pence said 'I'm not getting in that car,'" KS Toronado Sep 2024 #22
We can piece the story together a bit. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #31
Thanks, that all makes sense. KS Toronado Sep 2024 #33
Piecing together the crime scene facts and using psych profiling. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #34
Looks like she's given him her phone ... imaginary girl Sep 2024 #6
She probably would have cut ties with him had he endorsed trump ecstatic Sep 2024 #7
If looks could kill Figarosmom Sep 2024 #8
I agree, you described the look quite well. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #27
If i remember right he didnt even want to get in the vehicle with the secret service... IcyPeas Sep 2024 #10
Pence must have known exactly what Trump is capable of. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #28
Wow, if she was in the same room as tRump at the time Laha Sep 2024 #11
The thrust of her jaw, the look in her eyes, the folded arms are clear signs of disgust and anger, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #12
And the furrowed brows. A better angle would have shown the lasers shooting out her eyes ms liberty Sep 2024 #35
She looks fit to be tied at what Trump was doing. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #29
I wonder if she's the one who told him not to get in the car? n/t StrictlyRockers Sep 2024 #23
She probably refused to get into the car and told her dad in no uncertain terms to do the same. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #30
Woah, never seen this pic! electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #25
I bet he warned her not to be around traitor alone Marthe48 Sep 2024 #32

brush

(58,285 posts)
26. That probably gave him the idea to in no way leave that building with Secret Service agents.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 02:04 AM
Sep 2024

No telling what they had planned for him.

sheshe2

(88,545 posts)
5. Ya, well I would be pissed too.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:28 PM
Sep 2024

The daughter of the VP standing in a dirty garage surrounded by armed secret service men while she listens to chants to "hang Mike Pence" as the President of the United States praised the mob attacking our Capital.

The F**K!

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,544 posts)
9. And to top it off,
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:44 PM
Sep 2024

Pence apparently didn't trust his Secret Service detail, he refused to get into the vehicle.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a39814795/mike-pence-january-6-jamie-raskin-secret-service/

Speaking about the threats to Pence on Jan. 6 and the chants by rioters to hang him, Raskin said the vice president's Secret Service agents — including one who was carrying the nuclear football — ran down to an undisclosed place in the Capitol. Those agents, who Raskin said he suspects were reporting to Trump’s Secret Service agents, were trying to whisk Pence away from the Capitol. Pence then "uttered what I think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing I've seen so far: 'I'm not getting in that car,'" Raskin said. "He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do," Raskin said.


Jesus, we were so close to losing our democracy that day, and while Pence is an asshole, I'll give him credit for not bowing to Been A Dick Donald's threats that day and did the right thing.

rubbersole

(8,789 posts)
13. And he didn't want history...
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:13 PM
Sep 2024

...remembering him as the guy who failed to take the advice of that great statesman Dan Quayle.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,544 posts)
15. Quayle got it right and Pence, thank god, listened.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:21 PM
Sep 2024
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/dan-quayle-talked-mike-pence-rejecting-trump-what-story-n1279406

Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” he said.


But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.

"You don't know the position I'm in," he said, according to the authors.

"I do know the position you're in," Quayle responded. "I also know what the law is. You listen to the parliamentarian. That's all you do. You have no power.

And Pence did just that: He listened to the Senate parliamentarian. Together, as Politico's Kyle Cheney showed on Twitter, they crafted language that made clear that there would be no chance for alternate electoral slates from states such as Georgia to vote for Trump. And in doing so, Biden’s win was — once the Capitol was cleared of insurrectionists — certified as it had been every other presidential election beforehand.


On this occasion, Dan Quayle was right.

sheshe2

(88,545 posts)
14. I remember that part, where he refused, good choice.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:19 PM
Sep 2024

One thought/question on your highlighted post. You said the SS was carrying the nuclear football. I never knew that the VP had that at his side at all times. That makes sense, but I never knew that part.

So here are my thoughts, the SS was most likely carrying out the big guys orders to assassinate the VP. Terrifying thought, What is also terrifying to me is that they carry the nuclear FB and yes I know there are secret passwords, voice/hand prints involved but it scares me that they carry/protect it. (See Stephen King book: The Dead Zone)

Do we trust them? Biden's dogs sure didn't.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,544 posts)
16. I never knew until now that the VP had their own "football" and that it was the Secret Service that carried it,
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:24 PM
Sep 2024

I always thought that only the Pres. had the "football" and that it was a Military officer that carried it.
Learn something new every day here on DU.

sheshe2

(88,545 posts)
17. That is what I thought.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:34 PM
Sep 2024

and it was only passed to the VP if the President was incapacitated.

Here is the last scene from the Dead Zone.



Ah, and the General has to use his handprint first.

sheshe2

(88,545 posts)
20. Excellent!
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:46 PM
Sep 2024

Stephen King is the best.

Read The Stand if you haven't. Good vs Evil and it is closer to the truth than you want to believe. It starts with a 'super flu' that wipes out half of the Country.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,544 posts)
21. Stephan King is one of my favorite authors
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:49 PM
Sep 2024

read numerous books of his and always enjoyed them, and you just added another book of his
for me to read.

KS Toronado

(19,919 posts)
22. I've often wondered when Pence said 'I'm not getting in that car,'"
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 12:21 AM
Sep 2024

with such conviction, if someone had warned him not to.

Irish_Dem

(60,685 posts)
31. We can piece the story together a bit.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 06:23 AM
Sep 2024

Right Pence refusing to get into the car with the SS had a big back story.

Pence must have seen firsthand what Trump was capable of because he was part of the WH scene for four
years with Trump.

Trump's callous disregard for life, Trump willing to do anything to win, and to seek revenge on those
who crossed him.

Pence must have heard people talk about the plans for J6 or gotten wind of it.
He then saw video handed to him by his daughter on her phone that day of the crowds shouting to kill him.
Maybe he saw pictures of the noose.
Trump's praise of these people.

He must have know some of the SS would do anything for Trump and were corrupt.

imaginary girl

(929 posts)
6. Looks like she's given him her phone ...
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:32 PM
Sep 2024

Looks like she's given him her phone after finding the video on social media.

Figarosmom

(3,651 posts)
8. If looks could kill
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:39 PM
Sep 2024

She looks pissed she's looking at dad like " do you get it now? Don't even try to defend him"

Irish_Dem

(60,685 posts)
27. I agree, you described the look quite well.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 06:10 AM
Sep 2024

She has handed her father the phone with the video and told Dad to wake the hell up.

IcyPeas

(22,920 posts)
10. If i remember right he didnt even want to get in the vehicle with the secret service...
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:00 PM
Sep 2024

Has he ever spilled what he knows about trump and that administration ?

Mrs. pence never liked trump from the very biggining. They also used IVF. You'd hope they would at least make a statement about that.





Irish_Dem

(60,685 posts)
28. Pence must have known exactly what Trump is capable of.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 06:11 AM
Sep 2024

He must have seen it first hand.

Laha

(418 posts)
11. Wow, if she was in the same room as tRump at the time
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:08 PM
Sep 2024

I don't think the Secret Service could have protected him

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,544 posts)
12. The thrust of her jaw, the look in her eyes, the folded arms are clear signs of disgust and anger,
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:12 PM
Sep 2024

that look says it all, she was daring her dad to attempt to justify Been A Dick Donald's actions that day.

ms liberty

(9,897 posts)
35. And the furrowed brows. A better angle would have shown the lasers shooting out her eyes
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 07:40 AM
Sep 2024

I didn't remember that his daughter was there.

Irish_Dem

(60,685 posts)
29. She looks fit to be tied at what Trump was doing.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 06:12 AM
Sep 2024

I would love to have heard her comments.

Irish_Dem

(60,685 posts)
30. She probably refused to get into the car and told her dad in no uncertain terms to do the same.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 06:13 AM
Sep 2024
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