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FelineOverlord

(3,734 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:25 AM Oct 1

"My daughter is a county clerk in charge of handling elections for a large county in Michigan. The FBI came in ..."

The GOP is a terrorist organization.

Doc 
@DocAtCDI

I live in a "swing state," the only place where any votes seem to count according to people who defend the electoral college.

My daughter is a county clerk; she is in charge of handling elections for a large county in Michigan.

The FBI came in and told her to shut down all her social media, and if she couldn’t, to remove all references to family and change her name.

No one in her office is allowed to open any mail without gloves and a mask. They have armed security when they enter and leave the city building. They receive 2-3 letters a day filled with white powder (so far, flour or powdered sugar).

Please don’t think we’ve got this under control. There is LITERALLY a war going on, quietly, waged by domestic terrorists, to take away your right to have your voice heard.

This woman, who I can’t name because her life is in danger, goes into combat every single day to try to protect your right to have your voice heard!

Don’t let her down.




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"My daughter is a county clerk in charge of handling elections for a large county in Michigan. The FBI came in ..." (Original Post) FelineOverlord Oct 1 OP
First, prayers for your daughter's safety.. Joinfortmill Oct 1 #1
Not my daughter FelineOverlord Oct 1 #2
Read it again... Think. Again. Oct 1 #4
But there apparently is armed security of some sort when leaving and entering the building per article. Biophilic Oct 1 #6
Good, I just wish the doj was much more aggressive.... Think. Again. Oct 1 #11
Actually, couldn't agree with you more. Biophilic Oct 1 #14
I can't find any corroborating articles. mysteryowl Oct 1 #69
Oddly, I haven't read many reports... Think. Again. Oct 1 #3
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..... AloeVera Oct 1 #5
Sounds like he needs a CPAP to me ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #19
Lol. AloeVera Oct 1 #26
My college roommates said I was the worst snorer they ever knew ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #27
I have it too. AloeVera Oct 1 #29
I got my CP two years ago BlueKota Oct 1 #34
I was horrified to learn I was having 82 hourly ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #40
Maybe you should look a little harder. Garland started the Election Threats Taskforce and Bev54 Oct 1 #54
20? Out of hundreds of incidents? Think. Again. Oct 1 #59
FFS, they are arresting and trying those they can catch. You are so bloody anti Garland Bev54 Oct 1 #60
You're correct, I am extremely anti-garland. Think. Again. Oct 1 #62
It is clouding your judgement when you make blanket statements that have no basis in truth. Bev54 Oct 1 #63
My statements are based on... Think. Again. Oct 1 #64
Your statements are based on your dislike of Garland and the rest of us should not have Bev54 Oct 1 #65
Please, don't lie... Think. Again. Oct 1 #66
The point is when it is pointed out to you that you are wrong, you double down. Bev54 Oct 1 #68
I do tend to "double down" when someone lies to make me look wrong. Just a quirk of mine, I guess. Think. Again. Oct 2 #78
Lies, get serious, the only one who lied was you and it seems to be a quirk of yours for sure Bev54 Oct 2 #80
No, no, it was only you who lied when you lied that I said... Think. Again. Oct 2 #83
After Trump is gone, we'll still have to deal with his idiot followers for years to come progressoid Oct 1 #7
That is because the idiot followers were here before that orange gibbon was. OldBaldy1701E Oct 1 #10
Yep. They used to be ignored and would lurk in the corners progressoid Oct 1 #12
Yep. The MAGA problem is a Republican problem, and it doesn't end with Trump. Beartracks Oct 1 #22
They will all need bdamomma Oct 1 #61
Usually because they are so ignorant, they don't believe in psychiatry or counseling. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 1 #75
But many will slink back under the rocks they USED to hide under. oldsoftie Oct 1 #73
So it will be like soldierant Oct 2 #76
This is not America bernieb Oct 1 #8
I distrust the veracity of any X posts by unknown persons in the days before and after Nov 5. ancianita Oct 1 #9
I agree rogerballard Oct 1 #28
Good. I agree with all your reasons. ancianita Oct 1 #32
Me, too ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #42
County Clerk? Large County? Random X post? Sounds like the random emails that my dad used to send. LeftInTX Oct 1 #47
In answer to your last question, no. With one exception -- ancianita Oct 1 #50
Has an elected official ever been put into the Witness Protection Program? LeftInTX Oct 1 #52
From a cursory reading, not as far as I know. Read the rest of the link and see if you see something I missed... ancianita Oct 1 #55
Experts say Michigan law 'has the back' of election workers and voters FelineOverlord Oct 1 #13
WOW!!! Sogo Oct 1 #15
a third world country we are becoming..... bahboo Oct 1 #16
Banana Republicans. peppertree Oct 1 #18
Come ON. Not as long as we investigate and enforce Rule of Law, we'll never be that. ancianita Oct 1 #51
Almost like it was in Arkansas when Win Rockefeller ran for governor against Orval Faubus. LiberalArkie Oct 1 #17
That was before my moving here ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #20
Yea, both brought Liberal thought to Arkansas. And for a while the state wasn't under the LiberalArkie Oct 1 #30
For a while ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Oct 1 #21
Beware of rando disinformation campaigns on social media BumRushDaShow Oct 1 #23
EXACTLY. ancianita Oct 1 #44
The whole thing sounds unreal... LeftInTX Oct 1 #49
I live in Michigan DownriverDem Oct 1 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #37
They leave that very important piece of info out Kaleva Oct 1 #70
What's really disturbing.... Biglinda 52 Oct 1 #25
Great sad but OP malaise Oct 1 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author mysteryowl Oct 1 #33
Please note that this is not the OP's daughter. niyad Oct 1 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author mysteryowl Oct 1 #67
Glad they are warning people to BlueKota Oct 1 #36
Woe! Thanks for sharing. Martin68 Oct 1 #38
Heartsick and enraged KNR. I am so goddamned sick and tired of these niyad Oct 1 #39
Yeah, if you all watched Rachel last night, you will know all about PatrickforB Oct 1 #43
And Thiel's buddy, Elon, on whose platform all manner of fearmongering bullshit will be planted just ancianita Oct 1 #45
May JD Vance's ignominious political career be over quickly FakeNoose Oct 1 #72
And they're just getting started. The unhinged are finding their purpose: disrupt and undermine elections lindysalsagal Oct 1 #46
;-( elleng Oct 1 #48
There seems to be no way forward without massive violence IMO. NoMoreRepugs Oct 1 #53
And the people who vote Figarosmom Oct 1 #56
https://tips.fbi.gov/ or ICC tips. I gotta work.... Festivito Oct 1 #57
This is horrible bdamomma Oct 1 #58
We don't know if this is true Kaleva Oct 2 #79
If true, this would have made the news Kaleva Oct 1 #71
Rec'd for visibility! Mme. Defarge Oct 1 #74
I would very much be in favor of moniss Oct 2 #77
Mainstream report of this? Betty Boom Oct 2 #81
The Electoral College is so fucked up. 7 states should not decide an election, but basically they do. OverBurn Oct 2 #82
Well Doc "$8 blue check to feel validated by Elon Musk" is surely enjoying all the traffic to his feed of bad jokes AZSkiffyGeek Oct 3 #84
Liberal orgs/main party need to let us know where to donate to increase security Nimble_Idea Oct 3 #85
There will be violence when trump loses uponit7771 Friday #86
MAGA craziness is dangerous Heftylefty Tuesday #87

Joinfortmill

(16,000 posts)
1. First, prayers for your daughter's safety..
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:40 AM
Oct 1

But, really, what have we become? It's difficult to wrap your head around just how goddamn out of control people are. There needs to be a reckoning. And I think once, we get through the next few weeks, it's going to come. Peace

FelineOverlord

(3,734 posts)
2. Not my daughter
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:42 AM
Oct 1

But I'd be so proud of her if she was. These people are so brave.

At least the FBI is protecting them.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
11. Good, I just wish the doj was much more aggressive....
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:36 PM
Oct 1

....about stopping this kind of thing in it's tracks.

Over the past 8 years that trumpers have watched this type of thing go unprosecuted and become normalized and basically safe to do, they are only getting bolder and more hateful.

Biophilic

(4,544 posts)
14. Actually, couldn't agree with you more.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 1

The DOJ really has been seemingly absent for 4 years. It's one of things that has made me more and more nervous.

mysteryowl

(7,721 posts)
69. I can't find any corroborating articles.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:47 PM
Oct 1

Looks like this is only on Twitter, so could be false information.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
3. Oddly, I haven't read many reports...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:46 AM
Oct 1

....about all these terrorists (that's what it is) being arrested or prosecuted.

Maybe that might make people think twice about doing this kind of thing, don't ya think garland?

....garland?


....oh, gaaarrrrland? Are you there?

ArkansasDemocrat1

(2,880 posts)
27. My college roommates said I was the worst snorer they ever knew
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:51 PM
Oct 1

No one picked up that I had sleep apnea until 1998 a decade and a half later. Girlfriend said I turned cyanotic and she was pounding on my chest to wake me. Got a study and I've slept much better since.

I have a ResMed AirSense 10 and use nasal pillows, not a mask. Been reliable and no recalls like Phillips. I won't even consider Phillips when I comes time to replace it after 5 years.

AloeVera

(1,683 posts)
29. I have it too.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 1

I have ResMed too but time for an upgrade.

But I hate CPAP. Only use it when I notice I'm getting more bonkers.

Some people here might say that explains a lot. Hey, I can laugh at myself at least.

BlueKota

(3,151 posts)
34. I got my CP two years ago
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:18 PM
Oct 1

When the did my home test they found out I was having 60 incidents a night. Just had my yearly check in 3 weeks ago. Down to like a half incident a night. I pop out of it much quicker.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(2,880 posts)
40. I was horrified to learn I was having 82 hourly
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:32 PM
Oct 1

I still resent not knowing for that long...who knows the health problems that caused me.

Bev54

(11,659 posts)
54. Maybe you should look a little harder. Garland started the Election Threats Taskforce and
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:02 PM
Oct 1

as at March 2024 there had been 20 arrests and prison sentences up to 3 1/2 years, and no doubt more since then.

Reported by WaPo.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
59. 20? Out of hundreds of incidents?
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:13 PM
Oct 1

Next he'll be arresting steven miller for jaywalking!

We're safe!

(Thank goodness for Marc Elias and the American Bar Association Election Task Force.)

Bev54

(11,659 posts)
60. FFS, they are arresting and trying those they can catch. You are so bloody anti Garland
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:15 PM
Oct 1

you cannot even concede that it is actually happening when you are writing a post saying it was not happening at all.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
64. My statements are based on...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:24 PM
Oct 1

...the complete lack of any meaningful action by the doj to stop and deter the most dangerous threats our nation has ever faced.

(Again, thank goodness for the pro-bono, volunteer civilian attorneys doing the work our exalted Attorney General should be doing.)

Bev54

(11,659 posts)
65. Your statements are based on your dislike of Garland and the rest of us should not have
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:29 PM
Oct 1

to be fact checkers, like we do for republicans. If you are tempted to blurt out your opinions do some research first, it helps keep this site a place where people can come for truth not someone's alternative facts.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
66. Please, don't lie...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:36 PM
Oct 1

...my post clearly says I haven't seen many reports, there doesn't need to be any fact-checking, because I haven't seen many reports.

Your lie that I stated there were NO arrests is just that, a lie.

Thank you for your input.

Bev54

(11,659 posts)
80. Lies, get serious, the only one who lied was you and it seems to be a quirk of yours for sure
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 09:57 AM
Oct 2

especially when it comes to Garland.

Think. Again.

(16,387 posts)
83. No, no, it was only you who lied when you lied that I said...
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:31 PM
Oct 2

...there were no arrests when what I clearly said was that I haven't seen many reports of arrests (it's right there in reply #3 for all to see).

And now you're doublng down on that lie.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,987 posts)
10. That is because the idiot followers were here before that orange gibbon was.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:35 PM
Oct 1

Stupid is eternal. Sucks, but there ya go.

Beartracks

(13,355 posts)
22. Yep. The MAGA problem is a Republican problem, and it doesn't end with Trump.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:21 PM
Oct 1

He focused it and poured gasoline on it, but the underpinnings of Trumpism were baked into the Republican party for quite a few years before Trump came down the escalator and entered politics. This is why it's important for voters to understand that keeping Republicans out of power at all levels of government is the best way forward.

================

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,837 posts)
75. Usually because they are so ignorant, they don't believe in psychiatry or counseling.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 08:54 PM
Oct 1

It takes an open mind to want to receive counseling.

oldsoftie

(13,438 posts)
73. But many will slink back under the rocks they USED to hide under.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 1

Don Jr doesnt have "IT" & neither does Vance.
The MAGA base will splinter with MANY conmen trying to take the mantle

bernieb

(56 posts)
8. This is not America
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:31 PM
Oct 1

I've been in a position where I had my life threatened and received hate mail. It's scary. Your daughter is an exceptional woman. Give her a hug and thank her for all of us. I continue to pray and send good thoughts to her and all election workers.

ancianita

(37,937 posts)
9. I distrust the veracity of any X posts by unknown persons in the days before and after Nov 5.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:33 PM
Oct 1

If this were true there would be corroboration by now by our more trustworthy media.
Gov Whitmer or her SoS would at least acknowledge such a serious problem.
Just my opinion, but I will consider tweets by unknowns that instill fear in general, and fear about violence, to be disinformation.

rogerballard

(3,659 posts)
28. I agree
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:54 PM
Oct 1

News outlets would be all over this, the top ladies in charge in Michigan are smart, tough and a great asset to our state. Governor Whitmer, SOS Jocelyn Benson and Attorney General Dana Nessel. I have not seen a mention of this anywhere but this post on X.

LeftInTX

(29,473 posts)
47. County Clerk? Large County? Random X post? Sounds like the random emails that my dad used to send.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:28 PM
Oct 1

Cut and paste with no reference or forwarded crazy stories with no reference. My dad was RW so, there were emails about the "terror of Obamacare".

So an elected official in a large county was forced to shut down their social media or change their name by the FBI? County Clerks are elected and visible.

Has the FBI ever told an elected official to shut down their social media or change their name?

ancianita

(37,937 posts)
50. In answer to your last question, no. With one exception --
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:53 PM
Oct 1

when the FBI processes people into the Witness Protection Program. That's it.

LeftInTX

(29,473 posts)
52. Has an elected official ever been put into the Witness Protection Program?
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:55 PM
Oct 1

Maybe there was a "death staged" and we never knew about it? LOL

ancianita

(37,937 posts)
55. From a cursory reading, not as far as I know. Read the rest of the link and see if you see something I missed...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:04 PM
Oct 1

I don't recall any witnesses that have been elected, because they have to be in a court of law, and I can't remember if we've seen any federal court testimony by elected officials. IIRC, there might have been one in the New York case where trump was found guilty of 34 felonies.

As of 2020, approximately 19,000 witnesses and family members had been protected by the U.S. Marshals Service since the program began in 1971.[12] The program has a 100% success rate; no witness that has followed the rules and guidelines set out by the U.S. Marshals Service has ever died in WITSEC.[2]

According to Gerald Shur, who created the federal program, about 95% of witnesses in the program are "criminals". They may be intentional criminals, or people who are doing business with criminals, such as one engineer who bought off a mayor "'because that's how you do business in the city.' In his mind, he wasn't doing anything criminal," Shur said. A witness who agrees to testify for the prosecution is generally eligible to join the program, which is entirely voluntary. Witnesses are permitted to leave the program and return to their original identities at any time, although this is discouraged by administrators.[13]

In both criminal and civil matters involving protected witnesses, the U.S. Marshals cooperate fully with local law enforcement and court authorities to bring witnesses to justice or to have them fulfill their legal responsibilities.[2]

The program is highly secretive in order to ensure the safety of its participants. The leaking or sharing of information on these participants is taken seriously. A former federal law enforcement officer, John Thomas Ambrose, was convicted in 2009 of leaking information about a federal witness in the Witness Protection Program, Chicago Outfit hitman Nicholas Calabrese.[14][15][16][17]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Federal_Witness_Protection_Program

FelineOverlord

(3,734 posts)
13. Experts say Michigan law 'has the back' of election workers and voters
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 1
Experts say Michigan law ‘has the back’ of election workers and voters

https://wdet.org/2024/05/27/experts-say-michigan-law-has-the-back-of-election-workers-and-voters/

The laws that are specific to Michigan are really complimentary and consistent with the existing federal laws. They’re enforced by different prosecutors as opposed to U.S. attorneys and employees of the U.S. Department of Justice. The laws in Michigan also go to some of the more specific election-related issues that may be occurring in Michigan. For example, Michigan law places a number of guardrails around voter challenges. And that’s something that federal law doesn’t get deeply in the weeds of. But Michigan law constrains them in a number of different ways.

peppertree

(22,701 posts)
18. Banana Republicans.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:10 PM
Oct 1

They want the Latin dictatorship model of governance (but with a lot less Spanish).

LiberalArkie

(16,132 posts)
30. Yea, both brought Liberal thought to Arkansas. And for a while the state wasn't under the
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:04 PM
Oct 1

spell of the KKK and christian nationalism.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(2,880 posts)
35. For a while
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:19 PM
Oct 1

Last edited Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:07 PM - Edit history (1)

But they're definitely back. Lookit she-Faubus's shenanigans and the rest - we're already back to the bad parts of the 50s. The old sundown towns like Mena...we won't travel thru them at night.

Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(139,296 posts)
23. Beware of rando disinformation campaigns on social media
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:23 PM
Oct 1

Today is Oct. 1st.

The only reason why any "FBI" would come into some facility is with a warrant (search/seizure/arrest) for an alleged crime

That "X" sounds like a pile of bullshit.

States are in charge of elections, NOT the federal government.

LeftInTX

(29,473 posts)
49. The whole thing sounds unreal...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:41 PM
Oct 1

Since when does the FBI come in and tell an elected official to delete their social media or change their name?

Sounds fake to me!

"Where's our county clerk?"
"She disappeared"



Response to DownriverDem (Reply #24)

Biglinda 52

(69 posts)
25. What's really disturbing....
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:30 PM
Oct 1

is that the judges and poll watchers and election clerks are your neighbors. These people just want to see the democratic process that has worked so long in this country continue to be a success. They get paid a pittance to put in those long hours at the polling places on election day. They should be thanked and not threatened.

Response to FelineOverlord (Original post)

Response to niyad (Reply #41)

niyad

(118,523 posts)
39. Heartsick and enraged KNR. I am so goddamned sick and tired of these
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:31 PM
Oct 1

FUCKING MAGAT TERRORISTS, and their sick, twisted, demented orange "leader", along with the ones actually pulling the strings.

Sendng vibes for sfety and pritection for all those brave people on the current frontlines of this insane battle.

PatrickforB

(15,007 posts)
43. Yeah, if you all watched Rachel last night, you will know all about
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:58 PM
Oct 1

Vance's guru Yarvin.

These traitorous dirtbags believe the government should have a total reboot, and be replaced by a corporate structure complete with a national CEO (dictator).

They don't give one little hoot about democracy or this republic, and instead are intent in taking us down the rabbit hole of hate and laissez-faire capitalism.

It is upsetting, particularly in the face of a) Netanyahu's expansion of the war in the Mid-East, b) the war in Ukraine, c) our media's UTTER FAILURE to report news that is not biased toward maximizing shareholder PROFITS by presenting this as a horserace, d) the ongoing sane-washing of Trump, e) the idiocy about 'undecided voters' and their mealy mouthings (see point c immediately above).

The electoral college has got to go.

ancianita

(37,937 posts)
45. And Thiel's buddy, Elon, on whose platform all manner of fearmongering bullshit will be planted just
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:11 PM
Oct 1

before and after Nov 5. We're now in that zone, and shouldn't trust any but trusted prior sources. Especially on Elon's platform. No one should appear to or be allowed to hijack public perception and discourse on platforms from now on out. But they will on Elon's platform.

FakeNoose

(35,105 posts)
72. May JD Vance's ignominious political career be over quickly
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:57 PM
Oct 1

May Ohio voters get fed up and RECALL him in 2025.

bdamomma

(65,446 posts)
58. This is horrible
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:11 PM
Oct 1

Don't let these domestic terrorists stop you from voting or doing your job. They are stoking fear and division.

Kaleva

(37,782 posts)
79. We don't know if this is true
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 06:30 AM
Oct 2

No names, county isn't identified, no other sources corroborating the story. Michigan State Police would most likely be involved and not the FBI.

Kaleva

(37,782 posts)
71. If true, this would have made the news
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:49 PM
Oct 1

Since it hasn't, I very strongly lean towards disbelieving it until confirmed by other sources.

moniss

(5,268 posts)
77. I would very much be in favor of
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:17 AM
Oct 2

dramatically increasing the penalties for this kind of activity aimed at elections. For example right now in most states if you vandalize someone's yard signs the cops and the DA are handing out a slap on the wrist if even that. I remember one instance in Wisconsin where they had the perp on tape. It was the daughter of a local elected official. She got a visit from the cops and a lecture.

How about for things like vandalizing, intimidating, electioneering outside the polls, sending phony information meant to misinform about what day or where to vote etc. we make the mandatory penalty 3 years in jail? How about for these acts like described in the OP we make the penalty mandatory 25 years and if physical harm occurs the penalty can go to 50 years?

I know I might sound harsh but I'm done with the slap on the wrist crap for election crimes and I feel the same about internet crimes. Put up a phony web site and scam people you do 10 years mandatory.

Yes I know it will never happen and the slap on the wrist will be the normal response. It's why campaign finance violations are laughed at by the guilty parties. But maybe if it meant 5 years mandatory in jail it might have an impact. As long as we had enforcers who didn't "define away" charges.

Betty Boom

(122 posts)
81. Mainstream report of this?
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 10:14 AM
Oct 2

Is there any legitimate verification of this to be found? I have no doubt that election workers feel under threat from these assholes, but I am suspicious of anonymous reports like this on Twitter. Where is the verification that this is happening? it does not help our cause to spread false information. That just makes legitimate occurrences of threat immediately suspect as nobody knows what is the truth and what is fiction

OverBurn

(1,068 posts)
82. The Electoral College is so fucked up. 7 states should not decide an election, but basically they do.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 10:20 AM
Oct 2

I live in Indiana, so in reality my whole state doesn't count. We don't matter one way or another which way the state goes, it doesn't effect the outcome of the election. If it was done by popular vote, my vote would matter. One vote would count the same for everyone.

I wonder if the rules will ever get changed?

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,411 posts)
84. Well Doc "$8 blue check to feel validated by Elon Musk" is surely enjoying all the traffic to his feed of bad jokes
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:57 PM
Oct 3

Nimble_Idea

(2,313 posts)
85. Liberal orgs/main party need to let us know where to donate to increase security
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:00 PM
Oct 3

millions at the ready to beat the magats.

Heftylefty

(6 posts)
87. MAGA craziness is dangerous
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 02:10 PM
Tuesday

In my area, schools are used as polling places. For the first time, the schools will be closed on Election Day, because of the threat of violence. This isn't the Third World, we don't expect that in America.

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