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kpete

(72,759 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:50 PM Oct 1

Dan Rather has a few words for his former employers at CBS

Dan Rather also has a few words for his former employers at CBS:

According to CBS News’ editorial standards, moderators Norah O’Donnell, anchor of the “CBS Evening News,” and Margaret Brennan, host of “Face the Nation,” are there to ask questions and enforce the rules. They are not fact-checkers. CBS says it is up to the candidates to fact-check, though “the moderators will facilitate those opportunities” during rebuttal time. While both fact-checking (ABC during the Harris-Trump debate) and not fact-checking (CNN during the Biden-Trump debate) have drawn criticism this year, for the most part, the criticism was unsurprisingly partisan.

CBS is not abdicating completely. In a live blog and on social media, CBS News’ misinformation unit will provide real-time fact-checking. So, the audience is expected to watch the debate and simultaneously monitor a blog?

Simply put, this “rule,” imposed by CBS, incentivizes lying. It invites the participants to bend the truth, since their opponent then has to spend his rebuttal time calling out the lie, rather than giving an opposing view. And the calling out of a lie by an opponent rather than an impartial moderator is less credible.

Angie Drobnic Holan, the director of the International Fact-Checking Network at the Poynter Institute, told the Associated Press, “You’re basically off-loading one of your journalistic responsibilities onto the candidates themselves, so I don’t think that it’s ideal. It takes journalistic courage to be willing to fact-check the candidates, because the candidates are absolutely going to complain about it. I don’t think the moderators’ first goal is to avoid controversy.”

Norm Ornstein, a political scientist with whom I spent many an election night at CBS News, had nothing nice to say about his former employer on X. “I spent 30 years as an election analyst for CBS. It was the gold standard for television news. Those days, and their standards, are long gone.”

It seems clear that CBS is trying to avoid the blowback ABC got after the presidential debate. A journalist, much less a news organization, should not be afraid to take heat. Their responsibility is to call out lies. If they don’t do that on live television, during the most consequential election in modern history, they are the lesser for it. But the biggest loser is the American electorate.

I’m not sure why they even need moderators. Just have a couple of laptops there printing out the questions for the candidates and have the mics shut off automatically after 2 minutes. There’s no need for humans to be involved at all.

From:
https://digbysblog.net/2024/10/01/potted-plants-would-do-just-as-well/

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Lovie777

(14,327 posts)
1. Seems like they will be allowing Vance.....
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:55 PM
Oct 1

To loudly lie and make up shit with no courtesy nor restrictions, yelling over Walz.

hlthe2b

(105,560 posts)
2. re: "No need for humans to be involved at all"... Nor Network TV.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:58 PM
Oct 1

Wil that sink in to the PTB?

If Norah O'Donnell is really stepping down from her anchor position, she has little to lose by ignoring the bosses. Margaret Brennan is a good interviewer. She should too. These two women could show the courage that the others will not.

Biophilic

(4,544 posts)
3. The media continues to lose friends and credibility.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:11 PM
Oct 1

I honestly don’t know if they are just inept or corrupt. Either way they have certainly sullied the media reputation from the past. And that, I believe, is one of trump’s and the gop’s biggest crimes.

bucolic_frolic

(46,195 posts)
4. It's easy, there are few journalists anymore, most are journalist-bots
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:12 PM
Oct 1

Or highly paid talking heads if you will.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,584 posts)
5. This is always appropriate towards the pathetic news media that behaves like CBS is here
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:37 PM
Oct 1

Journalism lecturer Jonathan Foster: “If someone says it’s raining & another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the fucking window and find out which is true.”

GB_RN

(3,019 posts)
6. Avoid Blowback...
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:51 PM
Oct 1

/sigh
Someone want to tell the asshats in charge of CBS that the morons who will yell and scream don’t even watch CBS (News)? It’s not like CBS will ever win them as viewers.

Joinfortmill

(16,003 posts)
7. MSM is long overdue for a reckoning... This election cycle is their 'live or die' moment.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:54 PM
Oct 1

People are sick of Trump, sick of the lies, sick of his followers intimidating behavior, and, maybe most of all, sick of corporate media kowtowing to one of the most repulsive, disreputable characters to ever appear on the American political stage. GET THE GODDAMN HOOK AND PULL HIM OFF!

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