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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone here old enough to remember when CNN
had reporrters "embedded" with the military during the Iraq War? It was a term they used, but it was controversial because the war itself was extremely controversial even at the time, and we were being fed the military's point of view unfiltered. Many people were angry about it, and the embedded reporters were accused of being stenographers. Before this, "war correspondents" were not embedded with the military.
Well, I noticed today that MSNBC is now called their reporters who follow cheato on the trail "embedded" campaign reporters. They're apparently proud of this, and run a chyron with this title below the reporters' name. But just as with the CNN embedded reporters during Iraq, this is not the flex they seem to think it is. Apparently, they are proud that they are being fed the cheato campaign's talking points firsthand so that they can share them unfiltered with us.
Just as during the Iraq War, I say no thanks. I didn't need embedded rightwing stenographers then, and I don't need them now.
Swede
(34,738 posts)They were there on the beaches on D-Day.
senseandsensibility
(20,371 posts)Embedded wartime journalism started in 2003. I have researched this and remember it being covered at the time. Of course there were journalists covering WWII, at Normandy and elsewhere. That is not the same as being embedded.
Swede
(34,738 posts)nt
Attilatheblond
(4,403 posts)Saw him on evening news almost every evening in the mid to late 60s. The man was awsome, and it was always a relief to see him on because we often wondered if he would live to send anther report.
Still sad about how he died when Jim Jones sent his murderous gang to stop the people trying to take off after visiting Jonestown. Don Harris survived Vietnam only to perish because a mad man was about to be exposed.
Ilsa
(62,261 posts)they weren't going to show any trump lies, at least not without proving it is propaganda.
senseandsensibility
(20,371 posts)The ones I've seen today are not even calling the smears against FEMA lies. Misleading doesn't cut it as they should know by now.
brush
(57,899 posts)of NYT reporter Judith Miller who did a despicable job of mouthing what Rumsfeld and the military wanted told to the American people.
Miller rather than CNN reporters was the one who gave that term a bad name.
displacedvermoter
(3,140 posts)brush
(57,899 posts)senseandsensibility
(20,371 posts)but the CNN "embeds" also came under a lot of criticism.
dmr
(28,653 posts)I didn't like it way back when, and I don't like it now.
TBH, I haven't paid much attention to MSNBC's embedded people. So, I'm not sure they're feeding us TFG's propaganda, or not. I haven't given it much thought. I will pay attention now, since you've pointed this out.
It's come to the point for me that I just don't want to hear any "reporting" about TFG, Vance, or anything to do with their campaign. I turn off their dangerous bullshit. Maybe I shouldn't, but I just cannot hear anymore from them.
I do pay attention and listen to anything in regards to Project 2025, TFG's indictments, other legal troubles, or similar issues.
Thank you.
radical noodle
(8,735 posts)because they generally portray trump exactly as he is... a liar and a criminal.
dmr
(28,653 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,446 posts)Maybe MSNBC needs to be reminded from where and when the term originated....
TwilightZone
(28,834 posts)Which means to implant or insert an object into another object. Its usage to mean a journalist attached to a military unit is very common.
It has nothing to do with being in bed with.
Jack Valentino
(1,446 posts)Yeah, ok, whatever you say.
MLF1981
(211 posts)I also remember Geraldo Rivera getting into trouble for basically broadcasting classified military battle plans live on Fox "News".
no_hypocrisy
(49,019 posts)Flatrat
(163 posts)had a TBI from a nearby IED in Iraq.
And the legendary Marie Colvin in Syria. She was not an embed, she was a journalist.
TBF
(34,535 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)Journalists traveled with armies during the Civil War, Spanish American war, WW I, WW II, and Vietnam. This was not new in Iraq.
LiberalArkie
(16,583 posts)over a leased telephone line that the Government did not know how to disconnect
surfered
(3,460 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,034 posts)That's a great description of what Trump does. It's just lie after lie. I could never come up with so many lies so quickly. I guess it's Trump's superpower.
yorkster
(2,471 posts)presidential campaign. Katy Tur was described as the MSNBC embed covering Trump, for example.
I could be wrong, but I thought that term was used at that time as well
3Hotdogs
(13,480 posts)We have Ms. Mitchell of the NYT
B.See
(3,746 posts)there was no CNN. Nor cable or satellite . Old enough to remember stations signing off after the National Anthem and black and white test patterns.
Wonder Why
(4,641 posts)hunter
(38,999 posts)Haven't been back since.
BumRushDaShow
(143,357 posts)as someone who was "embedded" in 45's 2016 campaign for NBC News.
(so not new )
Ferrets are Cool
(21,961 posts)Warpy
(113,131 posts)Then Ted Turner sold it and those days were oveer.
Even he admitted he'd been a fool to sell it.
Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)usonian
(14,284 posts)Or Klingon?