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What changed and turned Elon into a MAGA? (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Oct 2024 OP
Seriously, who cares fantase56 Oct 2024 #1
You are laboring under a serious misapprehension, namely that he was semi-sane RockRaven Oct 2024 #2
a lot of people don't pay much attention. NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #5
I think he's on serious drugs, has Nazi DNA, and wants to be trump's henchman. Silent Type Oct 2024 #3
He got heavily brainwashed by right wing propaganda. Initech Oct 2024 #4
Apartheid South Africa Dlpger61 Oct 2024 #11
Certainly true. Initech Oct 2024 #41
Stronger blunts and and the reality of getting Klarkashton Oct 2024 #6
He's yet another one of those morans who will say whatever they think will be popular at the moment ms liberty Oct 2024 #7
We are probably now seeing the real Elon tulipsandroses Oct 2024 #8
He was an asshole then and now an even bigger asshole ... Pachamama Oct 2024 #9
GREED Historic NY Oct 2024 #10
We're way passed greed. He has all the money he can spend. It's more like boredom and narcissism. Intractable Oct 2024 #12
He wants to be King, and he thinks he can be with the obviously more dim-witted Trump as his puppet. Doodley Oct 2024 #13
He's an apartheid a-hole from South Africa, of course he's a maga t. brush Oct 2024 #14
While I agree with those who point out Musk has never been a prince... Morbius Oct 2024 #15
Did Elon ever fly canetoad Oct 2024 #16
The Defilement of greed. sunflowerseed Oct 2024 #17
Not just money, it's also the greed for power. StarryNite Oct 2024 #18
It's way past greed. actually it bluestarone Oct 2024 #19
It may just be me, Aristus Oct 2024 #20
He is pretending to be an American, because Emile Oct 2024 #21
Greed, misogyny and him not be able to control the life of his daughter Vivian. Quiet Em Oct 2024 #22
He was lying in '22, and all the reich wing trump humps knew it. Mc Mike Oct 2024 #23
Nothing, he was full of shit in 22 iemanja Oct 2024 #24
His daughter turned 18, cut ties with him, and talked about what an asshole he is muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #25
He was being disingenuous and was always an asshole. Oneironaut Oct 2024 #26
Democrats don't want to acknowledge this but Biden screwed up on the way FlyingPiggy Oct 2024 #27
Ah bullshit, that didn't happen. It was not an 'EV' event, it was about tailpipe emissions. Voltaire2 Oct 2024 #30
No, It wasn't. It was about ELECTRIC VEHICLES! FlyingPiggy Oct 2024 #39
In 2018, he was mean-spirited referring to the expert leading the efforts to rescue the young people in the Thai cave. John1956PA Oct 2024 #28
He was already gone. All that 'freeze peach' nonsense was just a cover Voltaire2 Oct 2024 #29
Government contracts $$$ awesomerwb1 Oct 2024 #31
He didn't change. He is just more open about what he is JI7 Oct 2024 #32
Exactly, he was always a power hunger jackass, who now thinks if trump wins he will be the defacto president JohnSJ Oct 2024 #38
Exactly. He has always been an arrogant power hungry asshole, who hopes if trump wins he will use his JohnSJ Oct 2024 #40
Cocaine? JustAnotherGen Oct 2024 #33
Musk has always been a sick puppy and now is just showing it LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #34
Probably red pill. That is gotten a lot of men last five or so yrs ago. You could see it developing Bushco LizBeth Oct 2024 #35
Elon Musk is a Bond Villain. FalloutShelter Oct 2024 #36
Just anecdotal, but I've known two different people from South Africa Mysterian Oct 2024 #37
I never thought of him as other than an absolute asshole POS, so it's no surprise themaguffin Oct 2024 #42
I've heard that ED will do that RainCaster Oct 2024 #43
Elon craves power Johnny2X2X Oct 2024 #44
Yes, he's a megalomaniac. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #46
What a stupid clown. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #45
Nothing changed SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2024 #47

RockRaven

(16,606 posts)
2. You are laboring under a serious misapprehension, namely that he was semi-sane
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:36 PM
Oct 2024

two years ago and is different today. That is incorrect. He is who he has always been. If you and others were not aware of what he was like prior to two years ago, that is fine, but he isn't different today than he was then.

Initech

(102,781 posts)
4. He got heavily brainwashed by right wing propaganda.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:40 PM
Oct 2024

Seriously, stay away from that shit! It rots your brain!

Dlpger61

(62 posts)
11. Apartheid South Africa
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:50 PM
Oct 2024

What we are noticing from Elon is inherent and natural. He was born and raised during apartheid in South Africa, this is simply who he is, a Racist.

Initech

(102,781 posts)
41. Certainly true.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:27 AM
Oct 2024

But there's no denying that his addiction to social media and right wing propaganda has brought out the worst in him. Like it has so many others.

ms liberty

(9,897 posts)
7. He's yet another one of those morans who will say whatever they think will be popular at the moment
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:43 PM
Oct 2024

With the people they want to be popular with.

I think ultimately it's that simple with these aholes.

tulipsandroses

(6,311 posts)
8. We are probably now seeing the real Elon
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:46 PM
Oct 2024

His mom spouts RW nonsense as well. I’m willing to bet that bigotry was a normal thing in the Musk household.

Pachamama

(17,063 posts)
9. He was an asshole then and now an even bigger asshole ...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:47 PM
Oct 2024

But actually I would say the combination of being an asshole + mental illness + drugs + not wanting to pay taxes on his vast fortune + not wanting to pay taxes = Dark MAGA Eloon style

Intractable

(685 posts)
12. We're way passed greed. He has all the money he can spend. It's more like boredom and narcissism.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:59 PM
Oct 2024

He needs attention.

He needs people to tell him he is great.

He discovered he gets more attention by being shocking and outrageous (hence those tweets) than by doing good.

Doodley

(10,452 posts)
13. He wants to be King, and he thinks he can be with the obviously more dim-witted Trump as his puppet.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 12:14 AM
Oct 2024

Morbius

(140 posts)
15. While I agree with those who point out Musk has never been a prince...
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 01:14 AM
Oct 2024

remember the old saw, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"?

Wealth is power.

Not all super rich people are morally challenged, but I genuinely believe most are. When one starts to believe that one can buy anything, or anyone, one is inevitably going to start to consider oneself above accountability. It's a rare person who can rise above this. Elon Musk is undoubtedly brilliant but I don't think he's that rare someone.

bluestarone

(18,459 posts)
19. It's way past greed. actually it
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:19 AM
Oct 2024

Moved past greed and now into POWER! They have so much money that it is CONTROL is what they are after now.

Aristus

(68,769 posts)
20. It may just be me,
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:19 AM
Oct 2024

but I consider being raised white in South Africa its own risk factor for inexplicable dickshittery.

Emile

(31,306 posts)
21. He is pretending to be an American, because
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:20 AM
Oct 2024

he is afraid a President Trump might deport him back to Pretoria, South Africa.

Quiet Em

(1,350 posts)
22. Greed, misogyny and him not be able to control the life of his daughter Vivian.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:24 AM
Oct 2024

Vivian probably needs to disown her grandmother too. Grandma Maye is a bigoted phony just like her father Elon.

Mc Mike

(9,175 posts)
23. He was lying in '22, and all the reich wing trump humps knew it.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:54 AM
Oct 2024

They were cheering on his proposed purchase of twitter then, and bragging about how it would be a big win for them if he took twitter over.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,742 posts)
25. His daughter turned 18, cut ties with him, and talked about what an asshole he is
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:09 AM
Oct 2024

The was 2 months after the "far left an far right equally" tweet:

Elon Musk’s 18-year-old daughter has legally changed her name to disassociate herself from her billionaire father, legal filings that came to light Monday show.

“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she said in a petition for both a name change and a new birth certificate.

Musk’s daughter also changed her gender recognition from male to female after turning 18, the age of consent in California.

The documents were filed with the Los Angeles county superior court in Santa Monica in April and came to light recently in online media reports.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/21/elon-musk-daughter-legal-name-change

He was quite an asshole in public before then, but his active public support of the far right does date from about then. He could no longer keep up the facade of being "independent".

FlyingPiggy

(3,738 posts)
27. Democrats don't want to acknowledge this but Biden screwed up on the way
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:19 AM
Oct 2024

They treated him. There was an EV event at the WH a few years back and every American carmaker was invited. Except for Tesla. I remember thinking that it was wrong and a really dumb political move.

Voltaire2

(14,999 posts)
30. Ah bullshit, that didn't happen. It was not an 'EV' event, it was about tailpipe emissions.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:30 AM
Oct 2024

For reasons that ought to be obvious, Tesla, Rivian, Polestar, Lucid, etc were not included/

FlyingPiggy

(3,738 posts)
39. No, It wasn't. It was about ELECTRIC VEHICLES!
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:02 AM
Oct 2024

Here you go:

Tesla just got snubbed by Biden's electric vehicle summit

President Joe Biden celebrated ambitious electric vehicles goals by automakers at the White House on Thursday. But he did so without the world's largest maker of EVs: Tesla.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/05/business/tesla-snub-white-house-event

John1956PA

(3,489 posts)
28. In 2018, he was mean-spirited referring to the expert leading the efforts to rescue the young people in the Thai cave.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:27 AM
Oct 2024

I lost respect for Musk at the time, not only for his defamatory remarks, but for his stupidity in thinking that his mini submarine could navigate the flooded chambers of the cave.

Musk's stupidity was also on display when he gave a press conference announcing his takeover of Twitter. He said the workers were using "blow torches" to remove the Twitter marquis from the building. The rocket maker showed that he did not know the difference between a blow torch and an acetylene torch.



Voltaire2

(14,999 posts)
29. He was already gone. All that 'freeze peach' nonsense was just a cover
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:28 AM
Oct 2024

for his intention to purchase Twitter and use it as a fascist propaganda machine.

As far as I can tell, Musk started to unravel during his utterly bizarre 'thai cave rescue' episode. Then his trans daughter fall out happened and he completely lost it.

It is not unusual for the parents of trans children to freak out. Sometimes the freak out results in a more empathetic perspective, sometimes it results in a transphobic amplification.

awesomerwb1

(4,632 posts)
31. Government contracts $$$
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:31 AM
Oct 2024

But more importantly, he's part of the tech bros group that want to become the puppeteers of the world.

JohnSJ

(96,905 posts)
38. Exactly, he was always a power hunger jackass, who now thinks if trump wins he will be the defacto president
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:00 AM
Oct 2024

behind the scenes calling the shots.

It is disgusting that a significant number of people are willing to be led down this path by these despicable people.


JohnSJ

(96,905 posts)
40. Exactly. He has always been an arrogant power hungry asshole, who hopes if trump wins he will use his
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:03 AM
Oct 2024

influence to call the shots.

It is disgusting that a significant number of people are willing to be led down this path by these despicable people.


JustAnotherGen

(33,947 posts)
33. Cocaine?
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:33 AM
Oct 2024

The tech world - its pretty well known he uses hard drugs.


I'll defer to the late great Rick James for "Cocaine is a Helluva drug" to describe the impact on one's behavior.

LizBeth

(10,934 posts)
35. Probably red pill. That is gotten a lot of men last five or so yrs ago. You could see it developing Bushco
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:36 AM
Oct 2024

mans man world and misogyny thru out every tv show and movie. More successful and independent women have become the more need for the Andrew Tate for male ego. And way before two yrs ago. I was seeing it in 2016/2017

FalloutShelter

(12,909 posts)
36. Elon Musk is a Bond Villain.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:39 AM
Oct 2024

He wants to use Sky Net to blackmail governments and he wants control of NASA and space exploration.
He is a crypto bro who wants to be paid in crypto, as do others like Thiel, who see Trump as the Trojan horse leading to a Vance presidency to make all of their shady currency valuable. Making all of their Brave New World techno-state dreams come true.

JMHO

Mysterian

(5,223 posts)
37. Just anecdotal, but I've known two different people from South Africa
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:44 AM
Oct 2024

They were both virulently racist.

Johnny2X2X

(21,961 posts)
44. Elon craves power
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:45 AM
Oct 2024

He's a malignant narcisisist obessesed with power.

Trump promised to give him power in his government, a role where he could pick and choose who succeeds and who fails, and even in some cases who lives and dies. That's what Elmo wants, absolute power over other humans who are his play things.

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