Orangina does not look well...

[PCIntern]

I’m not saying he’s dying, I’m not saying he’s had a stroke, I’m not saying he is doomed.

He looks like one of those people who would come to my practice, whom I hadn’t seen in a number of months and I’d walk in the room, begin with my usual “Howdy” or “Hiya” greeting, take one look and begin to ask questions.

There is no question that something has changed in his facial appearance -the musculature of the face is different, the eyes and associated structures and again , the skin and fascia and muscles are significantly altered from where they were a year ago.

I first noticed a change during the NY trial but it wasn’t clinically remarkable because you could chalk it up to pure stress of standing trial. But it has progressed and his speech in Detroit, aside from apparently evacuating his bowels in the middle, was eye-opening not only for the content, but for the delivery and his appearance.

I sincerely believe that he’s running out of “reserve”. In this case it may be both physiological and brain reserve. He looks like “Death warmed over”: if I were his physician, I would immediately order him to rest and perform a full panel of tests -something is significantly wrong here.

He may also be decompensating: I include the Wiki definition:

In medicine, decompensation is the functional deterioration of a structure or system that had been previously working with the help of compensation. Decompensation may occur due to fatigue, stress, illness, or old age. When a system is "compensated," it is able to function despite stressors or defects.

This happens often in individuals his age who have been treated for many years successfully with medicine or other modalities. It also occurs psychiatrically: people get by…until they snap to one degree or another.

They will absolutely cover up any malady he may exhibit, but I’m telling you, he’s not “the same”.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Can't agree or disagree

45 has looked awful to me for about 9 years. He never looked really healthy.

[BattleRow]

62. It has been said that when we get old

We have the face we've earned..this is just a sneak peek at coming attractions..

[lindysalsagal]

2. Which is why he's avoiding debates and interviews.

[YessirAtsaFact]

103. If you can't answer a question coherently

You don’t do interviews.

If all you do is lie, you avoid all fact checking.

He no longer has the mental capacity to put together bullshit answers to interview questions.

[Wounded Bear]

3. Losing will do that to you...

[gay texan]

4. He looks like somebody that hasnt slept in awhile

Because hes using illicit substances

[kiri]

30. Trump has chronic insomnia

Trump has had chronic insomnia for most of his life, according to numerous sources. This is why he often twittered at 3, 4, 5 o'clock in the morning

[HeartsCanHope]

66. It's been reported he drinks something like 12 diet cokes a day! That would keep me up--can't handle caffeine.

It's gotten worse as I've gotten older. My brother-in-law would have 12 cups of coffee daily and complain of insomnia. When I pointed out the amount of coffee he was drinking might have an effect on his sleep, he told he had always consumed that many cups of coffee. His wife chimed in, "And you've always had trouble sleeping!" Not saying that's causing the orange one's insomnia, but it could be a least part of it. I do agree that he looks terrible. He's carrying way too much weight and has a very poor diet--that's not going to help keep you sharp and age well. I also agree with BattleRow--he has the face he has earned!

[MFM008]

129. That much

Carbonation is hard on the lining of your stomach I know this for my own experience. I've had ulcers twice and I just maybe drink one coke a day. That being said, let's hope there's a nice hole being worked on in his gut.

[YessirAtsaFact]

104. If you abuse Adderall all day it's hard to sleep

I wonder if he’s at the point where he’s going 2-3 days in a row without sleep, between the drugs and the stress.

[Jazz Jon]

127. Parallel with Hitler

It was said, that in his final years, Hitler was on a cocktail of drugs that included meth and cocaine. His trusted quack doctor gave him this cocktail every day.

[MarcoZandrini]

111. Maybe he should...

….a very long nap. I think it’s called a “dirt map.”

[2naSalit]

90. And...

Rage screaming at least half the night.

[Dave Bowman]

5. He must be taking an incredible amount of dangerous chemical cocktails to keep him going. Just like his idol Adolf.

[usaf-vet]

74. Wasn't that what also cut Michael Jackson life short?

[Dave Bowman]

77. Yes and it didn't help Elvis either, unfortunately.

[Drummer1]

6. Let's hope he's dead sooner than later

[wnylib]

12. Right after Harris/Walz win the election is good timing.

Too late for MAGAs to say that Dems killed him in order to win. Too soon for him to be able to roll out his myriad challenges to the election.

[Girard442]

76. MAGAs will say he was assassinated whenever or however he dies.

[wnylib]

81. Probably. But, without him to keep them riled up,

their claims will not have an impact beyond the conspiracy theories of Vance, Greene, and other MAGAs in Congress.

[DUgosh]

7. I doubt he ever drinks water

He lives on Diet Coke and fast food.

[Kali]

94. there was this time

[Hekate]

8. I agree....

You know, if Obama keeps poking him he may well complete the decompensating process on camera.

A girl can hope.

[AKwannabe]

15. This girl can join ya!

[niyad]

32. Shall I bring more popcorn?

[Hekate]

34. Yes. I brought extra butter'n'salt

[niyad]

38. Excellet. I have a whole selection of popcorn seasonings!

[Attilatheblond]

75. I have white and yellow cheddar powders and Tajin chili/lime seasoning

We could have a popcorn tasting party and catch up on rally reels we may have missed during the week!

[niyad]

88. I have a lovely ghost pepper/cheddar combo, garlic/parmesan, a caramel

glaze to start with. A tasting party wouuld be great fun!

[Attilatheblond]

106. Daughter found a place that does a chocolate bacon popcorn

Sounds really weird, but it actually works. Yummy stuff.

[electric_blue68]

95. There are cheddar powders?

[raising2moredems]

97. don't forget the adult beverages!!

[Attilatheblond]

105. Oh yeah!

message me if you want a web site

[RandomNumbers]

123. We would not want to run out of popcorn! May I recommend -

Bob's Red Mill Whole White Popcorn, 30-ounce (Pack of 4)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z8S7Q2B

[niyad]

124. Perhaps an entire case?

[RandomNumbers]

125. That's how I'm buying it these days. :)

[Backseat Driver]

49. Speaking of which, I noticed how gray Obama has become at his rally speech. IDK, maybe "purple" shampoo?

I've also noted that President Biden's facial appearance seems modestly different around the eyes and cheeks; cosmetic surgery for higher muscled cheekbones and a bleph of some sort for a tighter, more youthful aspect...Again, IDK, just being president and cleaning up so much mess has to be the worst stress that can age one greatly, especially when one feels great responsibility to support allies. It's great that our candidate is fit, physically, mentally, and through experience, is ready to WIN this election.

[Ocelot II]

9. In photos of his latest rally he looked more bronze-ish than his usual orange.

Either he's changed his makeup or his liver is giving out. I have no medical training, but I would agree that he looks like death warmed over; he definitely seems to be running out of energy. A presidential campaign is stressful and draining even for a younger, healthy person, but for someone who is old, fat, and most likely barking mad as well, it must be especially exhausting. And when you consider that he's running not just to protect his very fragile ego but to keep his butt out of prison, the weight of it all must be enormous.

The question is whether he completely cracks up before or after the election, but it wouldn't surprise me if at some point he did something completely bonkers, something that would get someone else sedated with as much Thorazine as they could handle (and then promptly sectioned), like take off his pants or fire a gun into the ceiling or proclaim that he really is Jesus. Or maybe Satan will finally call him home when that big lump of cholesterol finally busts loose and lodges in what passes for a brain.

I will never understand why so many people worship a man who is plainly as mad as a box of frogs.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

13. He does insinuate that he is "Jesus" and "The Chosen One."

[wnylib]

17. To check for liver damage, look at the whites of his eyes

and the color of his tiny hands. Liver damage would show up in all those places.

I'm guessing that he changed his makeup color. Maybe he got sensitive about the ridicule of his orange coloring and decided to go for a more tan/bronze look as if he is a healthy guy tanned from outdoor activity.

[keep_left]

18. Whatever he's troweling onto his face is now much darker than...

...it used to be. Lawrence O'Donnell made some jokes about it recently, particularly about how Trump always leaves his ears uncolored, which looks especially bad now that he's changed the color to a sort of mud brown. I recall that the "Brooklyn Dad Defiant" X account posted the O'Donnell clip, and Trump did indeed look like death warmed over.

[Ocelot II]

33. It has been suggested that if he gets any more brown he'll have to deport himself.

[Dave Bowman]

80. "mud brown"

Reminds me of this famous song:

You've got mud on your face, you big disgrace
Kicking your can all over the place,

We will, we will rock you
We will, we will rock you!

[CTyankee]

108. Queen!

[karin_sj]

121. Thanks for posting that!

I always loved that song, but seeing the video made it even more enjoyable!

[Attilatheblond]

78. Wouldn't recomment parents take small kids to his rallies. If more gunshots, he might grab a baby for a shield

like the mad character in, what was it? The Dead Zone movie? I could see it happening.

[soandso]

100. OMG, hahaha

like take off his pants or fire a gun into the ceiling or proclaim that he really is Jesus

[dchill]

10. I agree with your assessment. In fact, I'm predicting that...

...by election day, Trump people may be voting for someone they haven't seen in days. Or weeks.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

11. I won a Republican over by reminding them that Trump

Will probably die in office and we’ll end up with Vance. Then I told her about all the crazy things he has said. That and I talked about how Trump and Vance have talked about building on parks, taking over protected land. Then DeSantis tried to do that in Florida and got Reps and Dems royally pissed off. He did a complete 180 in a day. He had already put out signs at the parks stating that there would be construction going on at them. He now lies and denies that he was very serious about it.

[AKwannabe]

14. PC

I can’t look at him long enough to pick up what you puttin down. But I fully believe ya!

I want to hurl any time I see a pic.
I click away fast.
I get a buzzing sensation in my head when ever he comes up in conversation and it’s worse if it is someone who supports him. I gotta get away from it.

Pretty sure I am not the same since he came on the political scene a decade ago. tRumpPTSD.

I cannot believe he is allowed to go on in this “candidacy” role.

It. Needs help.

This would be the one thing I would not piss on if it was on fire tho.

[lizardkingjr]

16. He looks great!

Totally natural!

Link to tweet

[kimbutgar]

22. OMG I can't I see that pic of him and that woman!

The resemblance is uncanny color wise.

[DET]

19. He Does Look Bad

But I see it more in his affect than in his body. He lumbers onto the stage looking like he’d rather be anywhere else, scowls at the world, and then launches into a long-winded nonsensical rant punctuated by moments of sheer insanity and pure evil. But his voice sounds weak and there’s very little of the showmanship that he used to have. It’s like someone took a pin and punctured his corpulent belly and his life force bled out. If I had any compassion for twisted wannabe dictators, I’d almost feel sorry for him.

[kimbutgar]

24. He was so expecting for President Biden to be his opponent and he could portray himself as more youthful

Now he looks and sounds like the grandpa who should be in an assisted living place.

[Linda ladeewolf]

112. I really pity

The poor woman or man who gets hired to take care of him when he gets really decrepit! Such a huge diaper!

[Evolve Dammit]

25. Perpetual scowl. People I was trained to watch out for

[SheltieLover]

82. They did. 3 Black women prosecutors.

1 GA
1 NY

Kamala and she's the best because she can keep inviting him publicly to debate her again!

[Quixote1818]

20. I've noticed it too. I remember when my Dad was in his last year

and you could see it in his face. I look at Trump and my Dad's last year comes to mind.

[kimbutgar]

21. Not playing golf must also be contributing to his decomposing in his appearances and cognition

The one thing he loves more than anything he can’t do because the SS can’t guarantee his safety and they are understaffed.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. He's old. Shit happens. Faster is better

[3Hotdogs]

89. From your keyboard,

to God
's eyeballs.

[DFW]

26. I saw clips from his Detroit speech

He is further and further divorced from reality. His non-sequitur ramblings are so disjointed, I can only imagine the Trumpanzees are forced to close their ears and cheer, because if they listen to what he is saying, they will realize that a 2 year old with learning disabilities is more coherent.

[usonian]

27. High Hitler

In fact (Snopes verifies )
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-truth-hitlers-condition-130000525.html

Theodor Morell, Adolf Hitler’s quack personal physician, prescribed him cocaine eye drops, heavy doses of oxycodone, and amphetamines, sometimes up to 20 times a day. To combat Hitler’s excessive flatulence, he prescribed “Doktor Koster’s Antigas Pills”, a mixture of atropine and strychnine.

This claim is true. In a secret file made public in 2009 in England, one of Hitler's aides wrote that he had appalling table manners. The document also made a reference to his digestive disorder.

There are also stories of an undescended testicle and a micro-

[Historic NY]

28. He's on the end of Mike Pences rope.

[El Mimbreno]

29. Looks like something dead...

that forgot to fall down.

[SomedayKindaLove]

54. That's what the podium is for

He is always leaning all over those things because he can’t stand straight.

[albacore]

31. If trump wins.... President Vance. Within a year. He's gonna vapor-lock or his liver will fall out or something.

That is.... if he doesn't start walking around naked and calling himself Napoleon or some shit.
Whatever....the Idea of President Vance should scare the shit out of everybody...Repub or Dem.

[niyad]

40. I would not give him four months before shady and his friends off him.

[hlthe2b]

35. I think it is pretty clear that both his mental/psychological/neurological dysfunction and his physical dysfunctions

are progressing rapidly now...Very difficult for his people to cover for him--especially when tired or "sundowning."

It is clear why he will not do any kind of debate, town hall, or interview or appear in a context outside his people's control.

Do they really think they can contain this until after the election (and until the inauguration if Goddess-forbid, he were to win or steal the election?)

[Kid Berwyn]

36. The Picture of Dorian Doneold

Link to tweet

[Blue Owl]

56. It's a lot of work getting in and out of a golf cart 18 times in 4 hours

[bif]

99. Is this Photoshopped?

[trusty elf]

110. Urine bad shape, chump!

[tavernier]

114. No but he's lost weight since then.

There are reports that he is on Ozempic or one of the generics.

[TygrBright]

37. He has resting corpse face. n/t

[niyad]

39. hmmmm, do we want a nice T-Day reason to celebrate, or do we want to

wait for the sentencing date, assuming it actuallly happens?

[pansypoo53219]

41. plastic surgery. filler like putin to make himlook more 'youthful'.

[misanthrope]

42. That's what Vance is hoping for

As well as the Tech Bros supporting this campaign. They want to use Cult45 to assume control of government and then shunt him aside so their boy Vance takes the reins.

[diane in sf]

43. I had read he started taking Ozempic, which could be why he's less fat and his face has fallen. And in

addition, his dementia has obviously progressed. The stress he’s under holding up his life of lies and trying to stay out of prison are contributing to this collapsing soufflé appearance and behavior.

[slightlv]

85. My gods

That face is a slimmer fallen face? Looks so totally fat to me to down right scary! Perfect Halloween mask.

[canetoad]

87. I'd read that too

No idea where or how truthful but wouldn't surprise me.

I also think he has discovered..... The Curling Wand! His hair seems shorter than before and has 'lift and body' to quote the advertisments.

[AllyCat]

44. Wait, he literally lost his $hit in that 3 hour word salad?

[nowforever]

45. Impotent

The Orange Turd is sliding down the slope and even the greatest MAGA wet dream cannot save him...so sad

[Wicked Blue]

46. I think he's decomposing as well as decompensating

[AKwannabe]

47. Spot on!

You found a pic of tRump I can look at!!! Lol

[BattleRow]

60. Now THAT'S funny!!

[Ray Bruns]

84. Beat me to it

[SheltieLover]

101. ...

[Dave Bowman]

102. I bet the smell is the same.

[flamingdem]

48. I heard the word decompensation when dealing with hospice

It seemed to signal processes that lead to "the end".

[dalton99a]

50. POS needs to acquire a prolonged horrible humiliating disfiguring painful natural disease

for which there is neither cure nor relief

[flying_wahini]

51. The Repugs are hoping if they manage to get him in office it will be EASY to push the 25thAmendment.

So they aren’t about to bring it up.

[llmart]

79. That's what I posted on another thread.

They just want to get him in office so they can push the latest/younger version of their idol.

[slightlv]

86. I predict very shortly

After they'd 25A him... like within the first 180 days!

Vance is the manipulative, evil G Bush they've been waiting for all these years. Moral, evil. Psychopathic.

[Richard D]

52. I'm fairly certain the plan is...

... That they want trump to win the election. Shortly after that he will leave the office, voluntarily or forced, so that Vance will be president.

[h2ebits]

53. Trump is the cult leader and he will be supported until he gets elected. . . .

The fascists need to get him into power and, I am convinced, will replace him with JD Vance as soon as possible after he is sworn into office so that they can take control of our government.

We will have lost our democracy if he actually gets elected.

We must GOTV!!

[lindysalsagal]

55. Looks like a gangster heading for prison...oh, wait

[joanbarnes]

57. I noticed the facial changes,

figured it was due to Ozempic.

[Mr. Evil]

58. Hats off to you, PC.

If I'd looked at him long enough to make the determinations as did you, I'd have already puked until I dry heaved. My brain would have rebelled so forcefully that I'd also would've suffered a disastrous episode of flaming, explosive diarrhea.

The few fleeting moments I can stomach his face, he always looks like he's semi-melted and somewhat wilted.

Thanx for taking the deep dive for the rest of us. Much appreciated. After that though, you might consider a stiff drink... or 10 maybe. Just to help muddy up the things you cannot unsee.

[Ferrets are Cool]

59. He is a 78 year old man who does not take care of his body. Of course, his schedule is wearing him out. He is NOT fit

to be President. End of story. If the media had any balls, they would run him out like they did Joe.

[BattleRow]

61. Will he recompensate before he decompensates?

[Oopsie Daisy]

63. Is/was he a botox user? Maybe his Rx ran out?

[Skittles]

64. hey you've seen a lot of faces very close up

WTF *IS* that orange shit on his face, is it something slathered on? He looks like an over-basted turkey.

[70sEraVet]

65. Amazing that the audience cheered at every idiotic, nonsensical statement....

he made at the Detroit Economic Club. I'm surprised they didn't give him a standing ovation for crapping his pants onstage!!

[niyad]

69. Please enjoy your undoubtedly brief stay.

[niyad]

70. My goodness, that WAS brief!

[Dave Bowman]

83. I'm sure that he's hearing that often.

[peppertree]

68. Fun fact: Idi Amin (by his own accounting) croaked at 78

[lizardkingjr]

71. You don't think he looks great?

Link to tweet

[Kali]

96. !!!

[AKwannabe]

72. Anyone seen a donation request ad of tRump on YouTube?

I was forced to watch 5 seconds before skipping to see a vid I needed so icky!

He sounded in that ad much worse than Joe.
Joe seems more elderly since 2020 but that person I saw was back lit and sounded terribly feeble. Back lit so it didn’t show his face thank god. But looked skinny in the surroundings.

Wonder if he is actually super skinny and wears puffy stuff to make him look more robust??? Weird shit man. We must all be on a long hard mushroom trip or something. So ready for it to be over!!

[DoBW]

73. Golem, Golem

[BigDemVoter]

91. I hope that fat fuck is miserable. . . .

That would give me so much pleasure. . . .

[Sogo]

92. Hadn't heard about this: "aside from apparently evacuating his bowels in the middle...."

You heard it somewhere or are just expressing your disgust?

[PCIntern]

93. Google it.

A lot of podcasts are covering this happening in Detroit and elsewhere before.

[tavernier]

115. He has had fecal incontinence for years

even when making The Apprentice. Lots of co-workers have discussed it in articles and videos. In the White House, staff noted that Ivanka would whisper to him and he would go to “have a change” because he apparently wasn’t aware this was occurring. There are pictures of stained clothing when he wears white pants on the golf course.

In other words, it’s not a deep dark secret.

[TwilightZone]

120. "There are pictures "

The pictures are fake and were debunked years ago.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-diarrhea-golf-course/

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/altered-images-of-trump-playing-golf-resurface-idUSL1N2Q51BI/

[tavernier]

122. Thank you for pointing that out.

I am the same age and after gall bladder surgery I keep an emergency Depend in my purse because my body doesn’t always process all foods the same as it did before.

My purpose isn’t to shame people who have occasional or total incontinence, but rather to say that a person running for the most powerful and stressful job on the planet owes the voters a disclosure of their physical health and wellbeing.

[legallyblondeNYC]

98. And he's seen sitting so much now.

[PortTack]

107. He knows he is finished..either way. The reality is he's going lose to a powerful younger WOC. Or, even in that

Demented mind he knows his reign is over. He’s smart enough to see vance and cronies are playing the very same game he has played for so long and is being out smarted at every turn. They will lay it out…go quietly and we’ll pardon you. He can’t face either. His very existence relies heavily on his sick narcissistic needs for attention.

By the time the inauguration of Harris comes around he will be really sick. Totally unable to function

[czarjak]

109. Living until he's 200 means he hasn't even peaked yet?

[Brainfodder]

113. He was showing in his term IMHO. His OFF adjectives to describe things, not a clue?

Or maybe he took "Everything is Beautiful" as his personal anthem?

[PCIntern]

117. I agree and posted contemporaneously as to

His obvious issues, and some not so obvious.

[Historic NY]

116. The blow flies are circling

[bdamomma]

118. Well let's

put him where he belongs in the prison.

He doesn't look well mentally or physically. He's really caking on the colour on his face too.

[librechik]

119. He's been drinking

My.theory at least

[Ford_Prefect]

126. Undiagnosed mini-strokes IMO.

My MIL had them with similar results.

[PCIntern]

128. Kud bee.

[JoseBalow]

130. He is not aging well