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Why would anyone whose state allows mail-in and early voting, not do it? (Original Post) JohnSJ Oct 11 OP
Did you mean "whose state"? Island Blue Oct 11 #1
If you're on mushrooms... lizardkingjr Oct 11 #4
Wait a minute ...... H2O Man Oct 11 #47
Yes, stupid autocorrect. I really need to turn it off . Thanks JohnSJ Oct 11 #8
Autocorrect definitely drinks too much sometimes, lol. Island Blue Oct 11 #12
I am in California and mailed my vote in yesterday and received an acknowledgement that it already was received and JohnSJ Oct 11 #30
Thanks. I'm on the coast, so far away Island Blue Oct 11 #41
+++ JohnSJ Oct 11 #42
ummm, guessing you meant "state"? niyad Oct 11 #2
I enjoy the ceremony of going to a polling place. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 11 #3
My GF said that she'd go on E-day for the experience. Girard442 Oct 11 #6
If something happens where you cannot physically be there to vote on ED, voting JohnSJ Oct 12 #63
I'm the same. I'll go vote early... Mark.b2 Oct 11 #9
I am with you bottomofthehill Oct 11 #28
I'm exactly the same, bottomofthehill. Diamond_Dog Oct 12 #57
Agree Mossfern Oct 11 #18
You are fortunate to have hand-marked paper ballots. RandomNumbers Oct 12 #65
I do too Poiuyt Oct 11 #25
I do, too soandso Oct 11 #34
With early in-person voting you get the best of both worlds RidinWithHarris Oct 11 #43
I do too. jimfields33 Oct 12 #58
NC? They have enough problems. I'm sure you could say your dog ate it, and leave your son out of it. n/t Dennis Donovan Oct 11 #5
Maybe some regions have unreliable mail delivery? SheltieLover Oct 11 #7
Hi SheltieLover Quakerfriend Oct 11 #13
My GS & I like the experience of going to polls on election day as well. SheltieLover Oct 11 #15
😂. GO Gloria Johnson!!!! It would be so awesome to see her pull off a win! 💙 Quakerfriend Oct 11 #22
I sure hope she does!!! SheltieLover Oct 11 #24
It can be successful not debating. Arizona didn't have jimfields33 Oct 12 #59
I'm in California... I've had my ballot for a few days. WarGamer Oct 11 #10
I'm going to hold back and wait until day 3 of early voting ecstatic Oct 11 #11
PSA, if you don't mind! PLEASE vote on Day 1 or by Day 3 of early voting Coexist Oct 11 #14
We are going to our county courthouse next week Emile Oct 11 #16
I'm committee JustAnotherGen Oct 11 #17
Greater Philly here BlueInPhilly Oct 11 #19
This might sound dumb orange jar Oct 11 #20
I like to go to our local precinct voting center in order to flirt with the handsome election judge, who is my husband. Nanuke Oct 11 #21
Now we're hearing that the Repukes plan to contest all mail-in ballots. milestogo Oct 11 #23
Well, my state has mail in and early voting, but I am going to vote on election day, because LisaL Oct 11 #26
I'll do early voting but several reasons not to do mail/early spooky3 Oct 11 #27
Yep - this. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 11 #32
I've voted early for years. Dulcinea Oct 11 #29
I'm going to early vote. I'm afraid a mail-in ballot will be disqualified. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 11 #31
Wise decision notemason Oct 12 #51
I do mail in Mz Pip Oct 11 #33
Some people take great pleasure voting on election day Maeve Oct 11 #35
I always vote absentee. llmart Oct 11 #36
I simply DeepWinter Oct 11 #37
Beats me LiberalFighter Oct 11 #38
Because my signature varies TommyT139 Oct 11 #39
Just did it. Johonny Oct 11 #40
These are all solved problems - if the states want to solve them Retrograde Oct 11 #44
Yup. I am in California. Got a notice when the ballot was received at post office, and the ne JohnSJ Oct 11 #48
I don't trust the mail and there's only 1 polling location downtown for 1.25 million Tribetime Oct 11 #45
Always Voted in Person DET Oct 11 #46
I did Vote by Mail in last election cycle. I liked it. scarletlib Oct 12 #49
I vote in person on Election Day Bluedawgbill Oct 12 #50
I used to feel that way but Jersey Devil Oct 12 #54
I enjoy going to vote on voting day. spanone Oct 12 #52
I just like to vote in person on Election Day. It's an American civic ritual I have always enjoyed. notroot Oct 12 #53
Some like to, some don't. As long as they vote, why do you care how they vote? Scrivener7 Oct 12 #55
We fill out the form on our kitchen table and then I drive Conjuay Oct 12 #56
Lots of people do. Some don't care and some just proscrastinate and some just like election day voting. lark Oct 12 #60
Another reason to vote early is if something unexpected happens where you cannot be at the JohnSJ Oct 12 #62
I will vote early, in person, at my City Hall which is also the home of the PD. elocs Oct 12 #61
I moved from California to Oregon in 1980. Then we moved to Wahington in 1993. Ping Tung Oct 12 #64
I hate mail-in because it's possible that it can be lost (although very unlikely) Polybius Oct 12 #66

Island Blue

(6,287 posts)
12. Autocorrect definitely drinks too much sometimes, lol.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:44 PM
Oct 11

To answer your question. I have no idea why anyone would wait! I plan to vote next week as soon as early voting starts open North Carolina. I don’t want to take a chance!

JohnSJ

(96,695 posts)
30. I am in California and mailed my vote in yesterday and received an acknowledgement that it already was received and
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:21 PM
Oct 11

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2024, 06:57 PM - Edit history (1)

counted.

In your situation the storms might make it more difficult, though I would hope they would have it remedied soon, and hope everyone there is ok



Island Blue

(6,287 posts)
41. Thanks. I'm on the coast, so far away
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 06:41 PM
Oct 11

from where Helene hit. I do hope that everyone in the western part of the state are able to vote.

Girard442

(6,415 posts)
6. My GF said that she'd go on E-day for the experience.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:35 PM
Oct 11

We're in NY state though. Probably not much drama there, although there is a hotly contested House race.

JohnSJ

(96,695 posts)
63. If something happens where you cannot physically be there to vote on ED, voting
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:29 AM
Oct 12

early avoids that.

Mark.b2

(482 posts)
9. I'm the same. I'll go vote early...
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:40 PM
Oct 11

But in-person.

I just don’t trust giving my ballot over to anyone except a poll worker at my precinct. If I’m able, I’m going in-person.

But, I’m glad vote-by-mail is available to those that are OK doing so or it’s their only option.

bottomofthehill

(8,846 posts)
28. I am with you
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:15 PM
Oct 11

I hate to say I no longer trust the mail, but, I no longer trust the mail. If they mail me the ballot and I can drop it in a drop box or directly at an early vote site, I would be fine but relying on the mail…..sadly not any more.

Mossfern

(3,209 posts)
18. Agree
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:56 PM
Oct 11

I like the "feel" of actually voting in a booth.

Unfortunately, we don't have those voting machines where you pull the curtain and then
flip the little levers of your choice. Now it's these cardboard "stations", markers on ballots
that you feed into the counter.

I'm just an old fuddy duddy who likes tradition.

RandomNumbers

(18,193 posts)
65. You are fortunate to have hand-marked paper ballots.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 11:15 AM
Oct 12

Less subject to data fraud. Can be recounted by hand if needed.

https://verifiedvoting.org/

Your polling place should offer an alternative marking system (probably a touch screen) that will print out your marked ballot. This is for people who have difficulty hand marking their ballot, but in my state at least, they have to allow anyone to use that machine if the request it. (Like a handicapped parking spot, I wouldn't use it unless I really needed it - but in this case it isn't illegal.)

RidinWithHarris

(790 posts)
43. With early in-person voting you get the best of both worlds
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 07:05 PM
Oct 11

This is new for me since moving to Ohio from NH a couple of years ago.

Another nice thing about the way they do early in-person voting here is that it's always done at the same place for everyone in the county: at the county election office. You don't have to worry about all the various scattered and sometimes shifting voting locations that are used on the final election day.

jimfields33

(19,181 posts)
58. I do too.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:26 AM
Oct 12

It’s exciting to vote on Election Day. I wouldn’t feel the same sending in a ballot in the mail.

SheltieLover

(59,760 posts)
7. Maybe some regions have unreliable mail delivery?
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:35 PM
Oct 11

I can attest to the mail in the Memphis post office sitting for sometimes up to a couple of weeks. For packages with tracking.

That's not counting all the mail that absolutely disappears from the Memphis post office, FedEx, and UPS in this region. (It is a huge problem that nobody seems willing to address and has been going on long before DeJoyless removed 5 high-speed mail sorting machines.)



Interestingly, in Shelby County (Memphis and surrounding area), if you get an absentee ballot, the ONLY way to return it legally is through the USPS.

Yeah, I'll be voting in person on election day.

Quakerfriend

(5,658 posts)
13. Hi SheltieLover
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:48 PM
Oct 11


That’s nuts about Shelby Co. !!

My DH always goes to the poles on Election Day- likes the experience.
(It literally takes 5 minutes in/out) at our location in PA.

I always vote by mail. - Mailed my ballot in on 9/24 via USPS & it was recorded by 9/30.

SheltieLover

(59,760 posts)
15. My GS & I like the experience of going to polls on election day as well.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:52 PM
Oct 11

It's a 5-min in and out thing for us too.

Yes, the mail service here is...like everything else -- truly like a 3rd world country. You know you're in a depressed area when MS & Arkansas have lightening fast internet, far fewer power outages, and much better roads than TN.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Rs got kicked out of all offices in TN and nationally? Holding the vision...

I love that you were able to vote by mail, track the results, and that it arrived safely so quickly!

Nice to see you again, Quaker!

SheltieLover

(59,760 posts)
24. I sure hope she does!!!
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:08 PM
Oct 11

You know I'll be voting Blue all the way down the ticket!!!

blackburn refused to debate her, but lots of thugs are pulling that crap this election...

I detest ruskie loving blackburn!

Frankly, it's embarrassing to live somewhere that people are so ignorant as to have voted blackburn into the Senate by such an overwhelming majority.

Planning my escape...

jimfields33

(19,181 posts)
59. It can be successful not debating. Arizona didn't have
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:29 AM
Oct 12

debates last election and it worked out very well.

WarGamer

(15,587 posts)
10. I'm in California... I've had my ballot for a few days.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:41 PM
Oct 11

I don't mail-in or use drop boxes.

For 40 years, I've marched into a polling place... whether it's a Library, Church or Community Center and waited in line... and either voted in person or dropped off my ballot in person.

It gives me the feeling that I have DONE something.

That I have skin in the game.

And I walk around with my "Just Voted" sticker all day

ecstatic

(34,448 posts)
11. I'm going to hold back and wait until day 3 of early voting
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:44 PM
Oct 11

I figure Days 1 & 2 will be crazy! Hopefully nobody else is thinking the same thing.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
14. PSA, if you don't mind! PLEASE vote on Day 1 or by Day 3 of early voting
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:50 PM
Oct 11

Campaigns have GOTV priorities. Those who have a healthy voting record - P1
Occasional voters - P2
and so on

Until records are updated to say P1 people have voted, campaigns will focus their GOTV efforts on this first, most reliable tier.

The earlier those who are passionate Dems vote, efforts will be output to urge this. If you Vote early on Day 1, 2, or 3 - then the campaign can move on down the line and focus their limited last-minute resources on turning out less frequent voters.

If you can, PLEASE vote on Day 1, 2, or 3. The Obama campaign had so many identified supporters vote on Day 1 they were able to refocus their GOTV effort resources to push deeper into their bench depth and VIOLA! they kicked serious butt.

So pretty please, with sugar on it, Vote as early as you can!

JustAnotherGen

(33,714 posts)
17. I'm committee
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:55 PM
Oct 11

In my Borough. Voting scheduled for 5 PM. I get my number then we compare in my precinct to determine who is outstanding, who needs a ride, etc etc

orange jar

(878 posts)
20. This might sound dumb
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:59 PM
Oct 11

but I think a lot of the, "I am tuned out but still vote every presidential election" types just aren't aware that early or mail-in voting is still a thing they can do. I think many view it as a pandemic-only thing, as strange as that may sound.

Nanuke

(568 posts)
21. I like to go to our local precinct voting center in order to flirt with the handsome election judge, who is my husband.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:02 PM
Oct 11

LisaL

(46,660 posts)
26. Well, my state has mail in and early voting, but I am going to vote on election day, because
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:13 PM
Oct 11

that's the best option for me as far as I am concerned. Our early voting only allows one location per county, and I live in a large county. Last general election my county screwed up a lot of mail in ballots by sending some ballots to wrong precincts, so it was a mess.
So election day voting seems the most convenient way to vote for me. My vote will still count just like those who voted early or by mail.

spooky3

(36,307 posts)
27. I'll do early voting but several reasons not to do mail/early
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:13 PM
Oct 11

Mail

1) you don't trust DeJoy and the postal service to deliver your ballot or your vote
2) your state requires a witness or other hassle
3) you're afraid you may make a tiny mistake (e.g., leave off the date) and your vote won't be counted

In-Person

Voting on election day is within a mile of my house with short lines and free parking, but early voting requires a 10 minute drive and paid parking.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,318 posts)
32. Yep - this.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:38 PM
Oct 11

In one state they’re tossing out ballots “because the signatures don’t match.” A lot of funny things happened in Florida during Gore vs. Bush.

Dulcinea

(7,539 posts)
29. I've voted early for years.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:18 PM
Oct 11

In 2020 I used an absentee ballot & a drop box, but other than that, I always vote early in person. Early voting in GA begins next week! My husband & I will vote early in person & our college daughters will vote absentee.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,318 posts)
31. I'm going to early vote. I'm afraid a mail-in ballot will be disqualified.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:34 PM
Oct 11

You do hear about these Repub states who toss out ballots because the signature doesn’t match, or some other excuse. I’m from Florida and have little trust in the Reps here.

notemason

(572 posts)
51. Wise decision
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:25 AM
Oct 12

Voted last by mail, witnessed and notarized, but after listening to Sen. Grahams advice to Georgia I became uncertain as to whether my vote was counted or not. Never again.

Mz Pip

(27,917 posts)
33. I do mail in
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:42 PM
Oct 11

Our ballots in CA tend to be really long with all the measures, propositions and local offices. It takes awhile and I like the relaxed environment of my dining room table.

Maeve

(42,997 posts)
35. Some people take great pleasure voting on election day
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:44 PM
Oct 11

It's a tradition they cherish, a practice that has power and just feels good. That's fine; it means I have a job two days most years.
Personally, I like in-person early voting for the chance to vote with Hubby, and the pleasure of joining other citizens in upholding democracy.

llmart

(16,331 posts)
36. I always vote absentee.
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 11

I'm in Michigan where anyone can ask for an absentee ballot with no excuses required. This doesn't mean that you have to mail it in if you don't trust the mail. I live in a small township whose offices are about one mile from my house, so I drive there and hand it to the township clerk. Doesn't get more secure than that. I turned mine in on Wednesday.

I don't get all the people saying they don't trust the mail. You can always check to see if it was received or not.

DeepWinter

(526 posts)
37. I simply
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:58 PM
Oct 11

don't trust the mail. I've had too much delayed and lost mail over the years. And it has nothing to do with DeJoy, it's gone on for decades. I'll vote in person all day every day.

LiberalFighter

(53,498 posts)
38. Beats me
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 06:09 PM
Oct 11

I sent in my app last week Friday. Got it on Monday and it shows they received my ballot today.

I'm going thru Chemo and just didn't feel I could go vote in person this time.

They have in person voting the week before the election but couldn't be sure I could handle it.

TommyT139

(720 posts)
39. Because my signature varies
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 06:27 PM
Oct 11

From the years ago when I signed whatezver they are comparing it against. My arthritis comes and goes. I voted early in-person a few years back, and on the way out, asked them to check my ID. I was told it was good I did, because my ballot would likely have been rejected as not matching.

I would never have found out.

Retrograde

(10,695 posts)
44. These are all solved problems - if the states want to solve them
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 08:31 PM
Oct 11

Don't trust the mails? Afraid the ballot will go missing? California tracks ballots from the time they're sent out to the time they're counted and voters can opt to get email notifications when key milestones are met.

Signatures vary? California updates the signatures on file with data from other agencies - notably the DMV - so they're looking at the most recent ones. In addition, election workers are trained in how to match signatures - the more experienced ones in at least my county get FBI training on what to look for, per our registrar's interview last cycle.

Need a witness or two? States can change that if they really want to encourage new forms of voting.

All the i's not dotted or t's not crossed? Election officials know who and where the voters are. Again from an interview with the county registrar, they can and do try to contact the voter to resolve problems (which is why California can take so long to certify results)

The West Coast states manage to run mail-in elections with millions of voters in big geographic areas, and much as I'd like to think otherwise, we're really not smarter than people in the rest of the country. If Westerners (ok, and the couple of states back east) can run smooth elections so can the rest of the country. It comes down to wanting fair and easy elections and making it easier for voters to cast their ballots for the people they want, not the people that the entities who control the states want.

Step one: start with the states' Secretaries of State, or whoever controls elections. Get Democrats in those seats!

Now to narrow down the seemingly identical city council candidates so I can send in my ballot this weekend

JohnSJ

(96,695 posts)
48. Yup. I am in California. Got a notice when the ballot was received at post office, and the ne
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 11:40 PM
Oct 11

when it was received and counted. Best in the country.

Tribetime

(6,415 posts)
45. I don't trust the mail and there's only 1 polling location downtown for 1.25 million
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 08:37 PM
Oct 11

Long lines and parking far away makes it less desirable for me. I did it in 2020 no more 4hrs total. With drive time to and from, trying to find a parking place(a mile away) standing outside in rain etc.

DET

(1,712 posts)
46. Always Voted in Person
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 09:09 PM
Oct 11

Right now, there are only three places for early voting in my county of a million people. The lines can be horrendous. If I vote on Election Day, it’s a ten minute drive and no wait to vote. Plus, I really like feeling a part of the process in the community. And, like others, I don’t trust mail in voting.

scarletlib

(3,495 posts)
49. I did Vote by Mail in last election cycle. I liked it.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:55 AM
Oct 12

However, i live in Florida where DeSantis has established his own police force. I don’t trust him or his police. He/they will be looking to cancel as many Democratic mail in votes as possible. I will vote early and in person.

Jersey Devil

(10,347 posts)
54. I used to feel that way but
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:37 AM
Oct 12

I have grown to really like early in person voting. That way, on election day, if I am sick or need to do something really important I don't have to worry about it. Also, it makes the lines shorter on election day and makes it less likely that people will leave long lines and not vote if they have other things they have to get done.

 

notroot

(267 posts)
53. I just like to vote in person on Election Day. It's an American civic ritual I have always enjoyed.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:36 AM
Oct 12

I encourage everyone else to vote early if they can and want to.

But, to me, Election Day is the most holy of secular holidays. I enjoy the ritual experience, tying me to my American ancestors who fought a bloody revolution to establish this right of citizens to choose our government, and the subsequent generations of my ancestors who fought to expand the franchise -- and full citizenship -- to a universal right to participate in our democracy.

(My ancestors came over in the colonial era -- the Mayflower on my mom's side. We've been here for 400 years.)

Scrivener7

(52,981 posts)
55. Some like to, some don't. As long as they vote, why do you care how they vote?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:38 AM
Oct 12

Is it the issue of resource allocation in those last days of a campaign? If so, I can see the point, but I don't think it makes all that much of a difference.

Conjuay

(2,146 posts)
56. We fill out the form on our kitchen table and then I drive
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:46 AM
Oct 12

to the county's Election office. No postal delays, no RW 'observers'.

lark

(24,260 posts)
60. Lots of people do. Some don't care and some just proscrastinate and some just like election day voting.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:52 AM
Oct 12

My daughter, who's 35, always voted on election day until 2020, she just liked the experience. She got busier and voting early made more sense so that;s how she now votes. The rest of the family always early voted or voted by mail and we continue to do so. I can vote next week or week after (not sure) and can't wait to do so. I will be looking up the info today and also seeing where I can early vote. They changed all our voting places last time, mfers. Guess my area is too purple/blue so they had to make it harder - boo!!

JohnSJ

(96,695 posts)
62. Another reason to vote early is if something unexpected happens where you cannot be at the
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:27 AM
Oct 12

polling place on Election Day, you don’t have to worry about that by voting early.

elocs

(23,066 posts)
61. I will vote early, in person, at my City Hall which is also the home of the PD.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:18 AM
Oct 12

I've had too many negative experiences with the USPS to trust them with what I consider to be my most important ballot in my over 50 years of voting. Plus, if something happens to me or with me on the day I go to vote I have time for a do-over.

Ping Tung

(1,345 posts)
64. I moved from California to Oregon in 1980. Then we moved to Wahington in 1993.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:31 AM
Oct 12

We've been voting by mail for about 25 years and have not suffered any significant injury doing so.

Polybius

(18,071 posts)
66. I hate mail-in because it's possible that it can be lost (although very unlikely)
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 12:27 PM
Oct 12

As for early voting, no. We never had it until recently. I like voting in-person on Election Day. I like to see how the turnout is looking.

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