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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:31 AM Jan 2012

Tucson children actually sentenced to janitorial duty

This was, of course, inaccurate: what was suspended by HB 2281 was Mexican American studies, not Mexican studies. When students asked why European studies has not been banned, nor any other area studies discipline, the administrators had no response. And regarding the issue of this being America, apparently this administrator believes that Mexican Americans don't belong in America (as she presumably meant the United States).

In a development typical of Arizona, the students who walked out on Thursday, protesting the elimination of the district's Mexican American studies program, have – without a hearing – been directed to perform janitorial duties this Saturday: an amazing message, right out of Newt Gingrich's playbook (he has been campaigning in the GOP presidential nomination race, proposing the idea that students should be hired as janitors to teach them a work ethic). Apparently, TUSD administrators are paying attention.

The further message of this punishment, then, appears to be that the state and the district do not want students to study Mexican American studies, but they do want them to clean toilets. Perhaps, Gingrich should consider relocating to Arizona, where his message is being fully embraced.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/18/arizona-banned-mexican-american-books
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Tucson children actually sentenced to janitorial duty (Original Post) phantom power Jan 2012 OP
K&R HopeHoops Jan 2012 #1
This doesn't surprise me AT ALL!! Ecumenist Jan 2012 #2
um...no shit ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #3
And who cleans your toilet? lonestarnot Jan 2012 #4
depends on when it needs to be cleaned... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #11
Just thought that maybe you thought the op was about toilet cleaning. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #14
and I bet you walked to school too... in 10 feet of snow...up hill....both ways madmom Jan 2012 #5
nice attempt to deflect the facts... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #9
Just because something has been done for a while doesn't make it right. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #7
this isn't about child labor ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #10
Umm...I never compared it to child labor. I used child labor as an example to show NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #13
i said it was nothing new AND nothing to get poutraged about... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #15
why is it the people who get paid the least are the ones Trillo Jan 2012 #19
With or without the racial undertones? Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #20
Cut school.. get punished... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #6
Couple of very interesting replies in this thread. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #8
+1 BeHereNow Jan 2012 #12
K&R! Louisiana1976 Jan 2012 #16
Utterly shameful. silverweb Jan 2012 #17
I'm sure I saw another thread, titled something like, Why are Americans so damn Obedient. Trillo Jan 2012 #18
+1 for the article and for a fellow RedHat user! Zalatix Jan 2012 #21
I doubt this is true DesertRat Jan 2012 #22

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. um...no shit
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jan 2012

when I was in school in the dark ages, there was no such thing as in-school suspension...they made us stay after school and work. this is nothing new and nothing to get poutraged about...

sP

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
7. Just because something has been done for a while doesn't make it right.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jan 2012

Child labor - as in children working 12 hour days in factories - was the norm for a long time. "Nothing to get poutraged about" I guess.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
10. this isn't about child labor
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jan 2012

it is about punishment for something...you can argue they should not have been punished and I would likely agree with you. however, the method of the punishment is not even CLOSE to equivalent to your child labor nonsense.

sP

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
13. Umm...I never compared it to child labor. I used child labor as an example to show
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jan 2012

that just because something has been done for a long time, doesn't make it right.

Your claim was that there shouldn't be any outrage because "this is nothing new."

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
15. i said it was nothing new AND nothing to get poutraged about...
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jan 2012

it is not just because it isn't a new thing. sorry if i wasn't more clear. and i think it IS a good thing to make them work when they are being punished. kids are experts at doing nothing...just sitting in a chair is hardly punishment.

sP

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
19. why is it the people who get paid the least are the ones
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

always perceived to be lazy as if that laziness is unique to them.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
6. Cut school.. get punished...
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jan 2012

Not overly surprising....

Might as well accomplish something instead of staring at the clock.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
17. Utterly shameful.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jan 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]The GOP has come to represent the most bigoted, mean-spirited, ignorant, hateful dregs of our society.

Disgusting.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
18. I'm sure I saw another thread, titled something like, Why are Americans so damn Obedient.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:27 PM - Edit history (1)

In school, teaching about peaceful protest should never be punished. It's basic First Amendment phrasing.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
22. I doubt this is true
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jan 2012

This link is from the guardian in the UK. I have teacher friends in the Tucson Unified School district who don't know anything about Sat. janitorial duties....I think it's supposed to be satire.

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