This election was stolen-seditious conspiracy

[Bread and Circuses]

Interesting that the Trump goons were not out. Silent. They usually go to county clerk’s offices and start protesting about cheating.

My hypothesis. The vote was fudged at local county election offices in all swing states.
There are votes that were deleted for VP Harris. Trump knew this , that’s why he never tempered his words.

Russia organized the election fraud, funded by billionaires. With the support of Christo-Fascists they got enough votes for the Felon from misogynists, racists and dumbf*cks to make the data look reasonable. All they had to do is delete the votes that put Harris in the win column.


Tell me I’m wrong. I will not countenance criticism of VP Harris’ campaign. She had the ground game, the social media network, huge volunteers and a passionate message of joy and opportunity.

This is the confederacy seeking its’ revenge and they’re doing it now with success with the gleeful billionaires, Legacy media, misinformation trolls all playing their part.

Make no mistake. Winter Has Come to the USA. Fear and hate is an addiction that Felon voters crave.

[flying_wahini]

1. The Republicans are a fascist party from this day forward.

[MayReasonRule]

41. The GOP Has Been Fascist Since Nixon...

They still are.

[ultralite001]

2. These traitors will be pushing to

Make Fascism Great Again…

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

3. I would not be surprised if you're correct about this. .

It could just be that too many Americans are misinformed about what Biden-Harris did for this country and what Trump did and will do to it. But I don't put anything past him & his awful minions.

[rubbersole]

4. Something hinkey was obvious for months.

When tsf said "I don't need your votes, we have plenty of votes."
And the total absence of any repub ground game anywhere. Disinformation and nazi normalization by corporate media was a big factor, but not this big. Our Republc is on life support.

[2naSalit]

6. Don't forget...

Leon Xitter and his treachery.

[MadameButterfly]

7. He was always just trying to keep the polls close enough that he could

steal it. I just thought it would be after the voting, not during. I haven't trusted voting machines since 2024.

in 2020 John Dean said Trump was convinced the Dems cheated because Trump cheated and it didn't work. I never could find out what he meant by that. Maybe that machines were skewing the voted count, but they didn't program it to skew enough for a Trump win? All Republicans did better than expected, a lot of Dem senators lost because of this. Trump came squeaky close to a win despite polls showing Biden significantly ahead.

I just don't believe polls can be that wrong 3 times in a row, always skewing to Trump and the Republicans. Meanwhile Republicans are caught exposing machines illegally (Colorado and Georgia) and we assume nothing is afoot anywhere else.

Dems can't claim fraud because we've been so busy countering Trump's allegations of fraud. Nor is there a way (or a will) to investigate.

And those of us who even discuss it will be accused of being conspiracy theorists. But really, Americans are not this stupid, racist, suicidal, antidemocratic, or blind to one brillinat campaign against a demented fascist. There is something wrong here.

[bdamomma]

10. After

reading your post this seems plausible. This goes much deeper, and I hope we find out more.

[MadameButterfly]

14. Thanks for listening

Dems I spoke to after 2004 rolled their eyes. But we ignored that at our peril. Gore and Kerry were gracious, but left us at risk.

I've read that things have been done since then to make voting systems more secure. But since there is no recognition that anything went wrong in 2004, it's hard to know if that got fixed. There were conventions where young hackers showed that they could change results in voting machines very quickly. i hope this caused new security measures, but since no one is talking, who knows?

Note that 2004 is cited as the only election since 1988 that Republicans won the popular vote. Which makes the appointment of Thomas and Alito legitimate. Which ignores that the majority hasn't voted for Republicans since Poppy Bush.

I fear it's too late to find out anything. Elections will be purposefully skewed from now on with Trump in charge. No investigations unless we get cracking in the next 2 months. After that, I'll be looking to the resistance not elections.

[Bread and Circuses]

11. Agree! Great analysis

This criminal enterprise was at work in 2016 and in 2020. And now again.

We can present the case for fraud in a reasonable manner. The MAGA refusted the 2020 results with some crazy ideas.

But, three intelligence agencies warned of Russian interference. I’m sure that MI-5 . Those Brits have deep roots in intelligence gathering.

[Clouds Passing]

36. Exactly

People were calling in to Thom Hartmann saying this exact thing would happen. 3000 red counties.

They have taken cheating to a whole new level of sophistcation.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

35. Thank you, & EXACTLY....BUt they gave UNCLE JOE something they didn't think about....

That supreme court that granted the president IMMUNITY. Something tells me that he's going to assist Kamala & the legions of legals get to the bottom of this...

BTW, The Apricot Diaper himself announced that he won PA based on voted from the rural and rustbelt areas of the state BUT at least 200K mail ins have NOT been counted....IT hasn't been won. The AP is announcing the winner AWFULLY fast for a "man" who is CLEARLY demented, slurring his words, calling the country, Puerto Rico & Haitians GARBAGE, SHRINKING rallies of people who left early, while he droned on about the same old nonsense, ABSOLUTELY no money for down ballot races due to his theft for his legal defense., etc.

Don't give up. We have ACTUAL evidence that shit is afoot. Kamala isn't conceding ...don't give up. It ain't over. Besides, he wasn't running for the oval office but FROM prison.

[2naSalit]

5. At this point...

I just want a way out.

[MadameButterfly]

15. I hear you

I know the whiskey is only a short term solution
Can't face tomorrow, and the next day and...

[2naSalit]

18. I have been through...

This horrible feeling before, left wondering about my very existence. When the adrenaline wears off, I will be working to see what I can do to better my situation, it will involve a lot of labor,effort and planning. And will be costly, no doubt.

I will have to sell as much as I can before I can go. Breaks my heart too, I originally planned, for decades, to retire and die here. Now, I'm thinking I need to get someplace else or I won't be safe or die on my terms. Not thrilled about being executed.

The thought of becoming a refugee isn't very inviting.

[MadameButterfly]

20. I'm assuming you are high profile enough

to be at risk. Thank you for your bravery and I'm sorry for your loss. I've wondered what everyone in your position must be thinking right now. I wish you the best, and that condiitions will change for you to return.

[2naSalit]

25. Thanks...

When I leave, I won't return here. Too many things are going bad in this fragile ecosystem with all the people moving here without understanding where they are and how they impact it. The ecosystem crash with be catastrophic for the entire western US, might as well leave now. I might just pack up a backpack and go on a walkabout for the rest of my days. Not my ideal retirement but better than a cage.

I don't know how high profile I am but I moved here to get away from death threats and hostile politicians because of my advocacy on a hot topic in the area, still have a lot of enemies in some places not so far from here. I would have to go where people don't recognize me.

Still, unimportant as I may be, there are enough in the region who would gladly hunt me down just to do what they've threatened... I can see how a permission structure for such vengeance would be put in place early on. I am retired now but hate lives on forever, it seems.

Too old for this shit.

[MadameButterfly]

30. Wishing you safety, peace, and beauty

wherever you go. And mourning all the people like you that we will lose.

[2naSalit]

31. I suspect...

And uncomfortably so, that there will be both exodus and uprising resistance. I'll probably have to participate in both. That's what happens when a society explodes.

[bdamomma]

19. Not to be

flip with my comment. You mentioned whiskey, but in Russia, they drink vodka to numb their pain. This has Russia's fingerprints all over it. They meddled in our election.

[MadameButterfly]

22. I don't like vodka but I do blame Russia

for this. And I think we have Putin, not Trump in charge

[bdamomma]

33. I do believe

it was Putin, Elon and those billionaires. She should not concede.

[Cetacea]

8. Hoax bomb threats made to dozens of polling locations in swing states

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/hoax-bomb-threats-made-dozens-polling-locations-swing-states-rcna178889

[B.See]

9. Well, what we do know is that

they've engaged in massive voter purges in red states like Texas, set up ways to discount or throw out votes cast in places like Georgia, blocked or tried to block absentee ballots, like from overseas voters, burned ballot drop boxes, had bomb threats phoned in to minority voting districts, sent threatening emails to Democratic voters in various locales, sent authorities to raid Latino voter organizers in Texas, bombarded registry offices with often fraudulent challenges of registered voters, threatened voters and election officials with violence, among a number of other actions and legal maneuvers to disenfranchise voters.

So your premise is not entirely improbable.

[Bread and Circuses]

12. Thanks

I’m noticing that more people on social media are asking similar questions.

This doesn’t add up.

[MadameButterfly]

16. Yeah, why wouldn't they go after the voting machines too?

No way to know if they could have succeeded

[electric_blue68]

13. Idk... but weren't we supposed to have International Election Observers? I forgot...is it from Amnesty, or which...

organization.

Anyway at 5:10A Been up all might I'm not in the best reading comprehension for this type of possible conjecture.

[MadameButterfly]

17. Internation Election Observers

would hav eben nice. Or the Carter Center, but that's a Democrat. I won't beilieve any US election again unless there is oversight

[GatorDem82]

21. I'll say it, I think you're wrong....

I think we just highly underestimated the misogyny of a majority of the country. And the patriarchal nature of the majority of the country in those swing states, but especially in Hispanics. Simple as that.

[sunnybrook]

42. I am even wondering about older women

Were they reluctant to vote for a woman? I have no idea if this is the case.

I can also see there being some kind of fix. They had no ground game. Didn't need one?

[Blue Full Moon]

23. The fix was in. Both trump and Johnson claimed.

Netanyahu instead of working to end the conflict and save hostages pretty much said he would wait on Trump. After phone calls to Trump. Then there is Trump and Musk both phoning Putin. Then the bomb threats. Then there was talk about republican controlled areas deciding the outcomes. Not to mention that voter fraud for the majority is republican. No wonder they holler election fraud. They do it. Can see it but proving is another matter. Not to mention like the last time the Supreme Court openings.

[kozar]

24. When i voted, in MAGA land

My ballot was scanned, the screen said," ballot accepted" and shut off.
I asked the staff, "don't I get a review of my vote? I always did before"
Worker said, " yeah, the county, changed the machines so lines wouldn't be so long"
Not that my vote would have made a difference here, in Fla, but,

Hmm



Koz

[Emile]

26. Garland didn't help.

[Orrex]

37. He avoided the appearance of a political agenda

And as we're seeing this morning, that's the most important thing.

[Emile]

38. Now we are going to have our first traitor president.

[returnee]

27. I want the final tallies.

I want to compare these to the pre-election polls, and to exit polls. I also want to hear Harris’ statement. I agree with the OP-something is rotten here.

[sunnybrook]

43. Did exit polls show her winning?

Exit polls I heard earlier in the day said Trump would be best on crime! Wtf is wring with people?

[pat_k]

28. Didn't have to delete any votes. Just ensure long lines in populous, democratic strongholds.

And we idiotically cheered those lines as signs of big turnout. When in fact, polling places have been closed in populous areas every cycle. And when a voter waits in a long line one cycle, they are less likely to vote the next. Lines are correlated with suppressed turnout. Not increased turnout. And when confronted with a long line, at least 5% are unable, or unwilling to wait. Lines are an intolerable poll tax we have tolerated for far too long.

Of course, that is not the only reason Harris did not have enough votes cast for her, but it is a substantial reason. I have no doubt that analysis over the coming days will demonstrate that lower turnout in populous Democratic counties played a role.

That was just the icing on the cake of the massive social problem created by more than four decades of a multi-billion dollar far right propaganda think tank and media noise machine, the effects of which have been accelerated by algorithm curated content that foments hate and rage that is, by any analysis, brainwashing. They think we are "nuts" because they assume "everybody knows" what they are seeing in their feeds.

[coffeenap]

29. Agree--widespread at precint level-

Yes. Musk.

[The Wizard]

32. Something is rotten in the post office.

There was widespread voter fraud via mail in ballots. I got a notice from the county clerk thanking someone who doesn't live here for their mail in ballot. That person hasn't lived her for more than 30 years. The mail in ballot was not delivered here, yet their vote was counted.
I have received mail for that person from right wing sites.
Keep in mind who appointed a very controversial Postmaster General.
I doubt this is an isolated incident.

[Emile]

34. The party who gave us fake electors and insurrection cheat?

[iluvtennis]

39. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this stealing was

the surprise that Mime Johnson and TSF had.

All he does is projection and he said yesterday that Philly was stealing votes. He told on himself.

[Kablooie]

40. I expect it was stolen but we will never know.

There was such a push from Rs to steal the election that I expect there was a concerted secret effort.
But real news will soon be a thing,of the past.
Propaganda will be all we will have access to.