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riversedge

(73,832 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:10 AM Nov 14

States that went to Trump stand to lose much more from his plan to abolish the Department of Education, as they receive

Once again, red states voted against their self-interest last week 👇

States that went to Trump stand to lose much more from his plan to abolish the Department of Education, as they receive more federal funds than blue states despite contributing fewer tax dollars.







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States that went to Trump stand to lose much more from his plan to abolish the Department of Education, as they receive (Original Post) riversedge Nov 14 OP
Red States Don't Want Education SoCalDavidS Nov 14 #1
They all have the same state song. wnylib Nov 14 #5
MAGA States! Let the misery begin! Bread and Circuses Nov 14 #2
Except that shutting for the Dept of Education Mountainguy Nov 14 #3
Did repubs gain a seat? Tickle Nov 14 #4
7 still uncalled IbogaProject Nov 14 #11
Yes and no LatteLady Nov 14 #6
The infrastructure doesnt really exist for that everywhere Mountainguy Nov 14 #9
They'll still get the money, but in block grants Republicans can use as their propaganda piggybanks. Lonestarblue Nov 14 #7
States already control curriculum Mountainguy Nov 14 #10
People must think that the Federal Govt spent no money on education before 1978 Jose Garcia Nov 14 #14
I'm selfishly more worried The Madcap Nov 14 #17
With all the Arkansas education money going to the vouchers. Arkansas will either have to shut down the public schools LiberalArkie Nov 14 #8
Sounds like the perfect recipe The Madcap Nov 14 #18
blue states will be key to future research and advancements mainer Nov 14 #12
Life is easier when you are ignorant. Turbineguy Nov 14 #13
Who's going to pay for this? Property taxes going up 75%? bucolic_frolic Nov 14 #15
F'ing themselves. Posted similar this past weekend. paleotn Nov 14 #16
 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
1. Red States Don't Want Education
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:11 AM
Nov 14

They are fine with home schooling, as in no schooling at all.

wnylib

(25,125 posts)
5. They all have the same state song.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 04:20 AM
Nov 14

We Don't Need No Education.

Teacher! Leave them kids alone!



Bread and Circuses

(335 posts)
2. MAGA States! Let the misery begin!
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:37 AM
Nov 14

Good! Hope the schools close and they give every kid ‘home school’ workbooks and all you jackass MAGA parents have to quit work to watch/teach your kids….Or Not! Let them grow-up dumb! They can find a job at the pig farm or become an unpaid servant for the QOP elite.

Mountainguy

(1,143 posts)
3. Except that shutting for the Dept of Education
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:27 AM
Nov 14

wouldn't cut out that funding. It would either be migrated to another agency to administer or converted to block grants given directly to the states.

That's in the unlikely event that it even gets shut down.

Most republican congressmen will understand that this high point isn't going to last very long. Given history, 2026 will be a tough year for R's in the midterms. R's majority will be something like 4 or 5 votes in the House, which is too narrow to get anything done. Too many R's in vulnerable seats that aren't going to want to have to run against shutting down ED.

Overselling how bad things are going to be, just makes it easy for republicans to paint democrats as crying wolf.

Tickle

(3,262 posts)
4. Did repubs gain a seat?
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 04:08 AM
Nov 14

When I goggle house race it says 208-218 with a gain of one seat and a loss with us. The numbers don't add up. Maybe it's too early for math

LatteLady

(49 posts)
6. Yes and no
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:14 AM
Nov 14

I agree that those states will still receive the public funds, which will be given to private schoolls, primarily religious schools with no public oversight or accountability. Their financial aim is to privatize everything, to transfer public money into private hands. Their “education” aim is theocracy.

I am not so optimistic about the DOE. Or that if and when it is demolished, those red state voters will change how they vote in any way.

Lastly the idea that we can control what Republicans will say about us by stifling legitimate concerns regarding the dissolution of democracy as we knew it is self-defeating. What they say about others is what they want to say to create their narrative, and is not based on the actual words or actions of others, eg, Haitians eating pets in Springfield.

Mountainguy

(1,143 posts)
9. The infrastructure doesnt really exist for that everywhere
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:45 AM
Nov 14

Living in one of those red states, there are not many private schools to funnel money to.

Besides that, it still doesn't change the legislation funding things like CARES and how that money can be spent.

Lonestarblue

(12,070 posts)
7. They'll still get the money, but in block grants Republicans can use as their propaganda piggybanks.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:22 AM
Nov 14

The Nazis destroyed all German schoolbooks and wrote their own to ensure that children were brainwashed with Nazi ideology. Republicans are doing the same in red states by banning thousands of books and going to propaganda creators like PraegarU or Hillsdale College for curriculum materials that are religiously biased and historically incorrect.

Mountainguy

(1,143 posts)
10. States already control curriculum
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 14

ED has little to no power to do anything about that.

And the hyperbole of comparing everything to Nazi Germany hasn't worked for us so far, not sure why that would change.

The Madcap

(768 posts)
17. I'm selfishly more worried
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:44 PM
Nov 14

about how it would impact the federal college loans for my kids. If you think the 2024-25 FAFSA was a disaster, wait until there's no department with any experience handling the thing in 2025-26.

LiberalArkie

(16,799 posts)
8. With all the Arkansas education money going to the vouchers. Arkansas will either have to shut down the public schools
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 10:31 AM
Nov 14

or raise taxes.

Free public education was nice for a while.

The Madcap

(768 posts)
18. Sounds like the perfect recipe
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:46 PM
Nov 14

for full-time child labor. They're going to be called "Generation W" for "work" (or "Generation "S", for slavery/serfdom/stupidity, you name it). What a tragedy.

mainer

(12,245 posts)
12. blue states will be key to future research and advancements
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 12:54 PM
Nov 14

States like Massachusetts and California will lead the way in science and medicine. That's where we need to turn for our vaccines and medical research. The brain drain out of red states will turn into a flood.

paleotn

(19,760 posts)
16. F'ing themselves. Posted similar this past weekend.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:25 PM
Nov 14

Thing is, the vast majority of magats don't have the ready cash to send their spawn to private schools. Or the time since both parents work. Sad for the kids but the parents can go fuck themselves.

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