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CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 09:55 PM Dec 25

"Friend" called me last night to wish me Merry Xmas. Then he told me that Trump will reduce the deficit, and create

a surplus just like Bill Clinton did.

I was stunned.

I made an excuse to end the call.

Later I texted him asking for a link to back up his claim.

He tried to change the subject to George Soros.

I told him I can't talk sense to anyone who does nothing but parrot the right wing echo chamber.

This asshole is dead to me now.

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"Friend" called me last night to wish me Merry Xmas. Then he told me that Trump will reduce the deficit, and create (Original Post) CatWoman Dec 25 OP
A collective aaargh! yellow dahlia Dec 25 #1
You should ask him to text his predictions to you in writing. Bleacher Creature Dec 25 #2
Good for you CatWoman BOSSHOG Dec 25 #3
I told him 1. Bill Clinton knew what he was fucking doing, opposed to Trump CatWoman Dec 25 #4
So exhausted by Rethugs who deny simple facts LymphocyteLover Dec 25 #6
Here you go, feel free to pass it to him. n/t aggiesal Dec 25 #16
The Simpson's version still makes me laugh like a fool CatWoman Dec 25 #21
What the hell is this? ... aggiesal Dec 25 #26
At least he knew that the roll model for creating a surplus MadameButterfly Dec 26 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 26 #60
I would have told the friend to call me back to talk when it actually happens. I am too busy living in the real world. Freethinker65 Dec 25 #5
Right, when you start talking about proof the RWNJ's start mumbling off into the distance or talk about mitch96 Dec 25 #7
i love to shut them down. always have . AllaN01Bear Dec 25 #9
some reason i get videos on my recs at youtube and thats all they do. i hit the do not recomend channel button AllaN01Bear Dec 25 #8
It's like that scene in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. SunSeeker Dec 25 #10
I watched that movie just yesterday! (It's currently free on YT) subterranean Dec 25 #25
This is the sort of thing Hitler did Beck23 Dec 25 #11
Trump, AKA "Cadet Bonespurs" Skittles Dec 25 #13
And that Dem4life1234 Dec 26 #49
Yes Dem4life1234 Dec 26 #47
whatever will they DO when Soros passes Skittles Dec 25 #12
That was the more messed up thing in my opinion Pompoy Dec 26 #32
Our rich guy. travelingthrulife Dec 26 #43
What will they do when *HE* passes? durablend Dec 26 #66
it would seem that in the world of rightwing wacko cult figures Skittles Dec 26 #67
I'll bet your friend has a degree from Trump University. multigraincracker Dec 25 #14
actually he's a black male who lives in Long Beach, CA CatWoman Dec 25 #17
So sorry to hear stories like that. multigraincracker Dec 25 #27
he texted me this morning and i deleted it without reading CatWoman Dec 26 #54
Wow. I bet you're not the only friend he lost. nt SunSeeker Dec 26 #30
I never understood the few black men who support that conman Dem4life1234 Dec 26 #50
There's a lot to be said, but this sadly says it all.... Dan Dec 25 #15
fuck him CatWoman Dec 25 #19
I kill them with politeness and laughter. ananda Dec 25 #18
Wel gee Figarosmom Dec 25 #20
Soros? lonely bird Dec 25 #22
The weird thing is that Musk is doing what they've always accused Soros of doing. yardwork Dec 26 #39
Precisely lonely bird Dec 26 #44
Call him next year. Sneederbunk Dec 25 #23
Facebook click-bait lures Fb users to Russian-fueled propaganda. John1956PA Dec 25 #24
It's one of the big reasons I quit Facebook FakeNoose Dec 26 #29
Best to avoid cult members. usonian Dec 26 #28
I hope "friend" isn't allowed access to sharp objects. nt. boonecreek Dec 26 #31
My prediction is: airplaneman Dec 26 #33
The only thing Trump will do "just like Bill Clinton did" is: DFW Dec 26 #34
The other term the cult members use a lot now is "migrant." C0RI0LANUS Dec 26 #35
The migrants line is a new one to me. yardwork Dec 26 #40
True about this tactic and he's been doing this for years. But this is the first time he used the word "migrant." C0RI0LANUS Dec 26 #55
Aaarrgghhh 😣 Evolve Dammit Dec 26 #36
Text him a reminder to give you the source for his story. Festivito Dec 26 #37
I didn'tt even give them the chance mdbl Dec 26 #38
Another mind destroyed by Fox news and right wing media. hadEnuf Dec 26 #41
So often MAGAts have just gone silent when asked a relevant question or requested for a link. Martin68 Dec 26 #42
The MAGA RATS homegirl Dec 26 #53
I texted a greeting to one of the few I know who voted for Trump: sarisataka Dec 26 #45
Why do they think he's some kind of miracle worker? Dem4life1234 Dec 26 #46
Why did T & the First Baby try and eliminate the debt limit? IbogaProject Dec 26 #48
when i told him Trump tried to bully the GOP into eliminating the debt limit CatWoman Dec 26 #58
I have a sneaking suspicion sellitman Dec 26 #51
Denial is not just a river in Africa LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #56
You should have offered to bet him. Buckeyeblue Dec 26 #57
Sure. Trump, the guy whom had the biggest 4 year deficit in history, he'll fix it. OverBurn Dec 26 #59
Been reliably informed here that these type of convos don't happen Arazi Dec 26 #61
You're GD right! ReRe Dec 26 #62
he loudly proclaimed that "Trump is your president" CatWoman Dec 26 #63
Disappointing Dave Id Dec 26 #64
I feel when she said: This asshole is dead to me now..... wolfie001 Dec 26 #65
You should let him know the pick for Treasury used to be Soro's PARTNER Callie1979 Dec 26 #68
I have not and will not lose family or friends over this HereForTheParty Dec 26 #69
I did away with DENVERPOPS Dec 26 #70
Clinton had a deficit surplus partially by RAISING taxes on the wealthy andym Dec 26 #71
he gave me some nonsense about how currency will be reevaluated CatWoman Dec 26 #72
Maybe Trump is going to put the US dollar on the bitcoin standard-LOL andym Dec 27 #73

Bleacher Creature

(11,495 posts)
2. You should ask him to text his predictions to you in writing.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:13 PM
Dec 25

There's absolutely zero chance any of that will happen (and a very good chance of the complete opposite) so you'll certainly be able to get the last laugh if you're patient.

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
4. I told him 1. Bill Clinton knew what he was fucking doing, opposed to Trump
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:23 PM
Dec 25

and 2. Trump tried to strong arm the GOP into eliminating the debt ceiling into the CR that he and Musk derailed. And 38 republicans not only said "NO" but "HELL NO".

He accused me of lying.

I suggested he rewatch "I'm just a bill".

MadameButterfly

(2,666 posts)
52. At least he knew that the roll model for creating a surplus
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:41 PM
Dec 26

is a Democrat. I wonder if he voted for Bill Clinton.
No, I don't wonder. I think we know.

Response to CatWoman (Reply #4)

Freethinker65

(11,192 posts)
5. I would have told the friend to call me back to talk when it actually happens. I am too busy living in the real world.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:44 PM
Dec 25

mitch96

(15,035 posts)
7. Right, when you start talking about proof the RWNJ's start mumbling off into the distance or talk about
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:47 PM
Dec 25

how they read it on the internets "somewhere "
m

AllaN01Bear

(24,234 posts)
8. some reason i get videos on my recs at youtube and thats all they do. i hit the do not recomend channel button
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:47 PM
Dec 25

a lot. one or two i have reported .

SunSeeker

(55,119 posts)
10. It's like that scene in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:48 PM
Dec 25

They look like your old friend, until they open their mouth. Then you realize they are gone.

subterranean

(3,587 posts)
25. I watched that movie just yesterday! (It's currently free on YT)
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:28 PM
Dec 25

Of course, when I was watching it, I couldn't help thinking of all the formerly sane, reasonable people who turned into mindless Trump worshipers. Almost like pod people.

Beck23

(359 posts)
11. This is the sort of thing Hitler did
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 10:57 PM
Dec 25

A lot of other nations fully expect Trump to invade Panama, Mexico. Canada, and Greenland. Denmark is beefing up defenses in Greenland. Denmark belongs to NATO so attacking Greenland would bring in the NATO countries against the US.

Dem4life1234

(2,526 posts)
49. And that
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:57 AM
Dec 26

And that is another reason I despise his ass.

Acting like some tough guy when he has never served and chicken shit his way out from serving.

Skittles

(162,527 posts)
67. it would seem that in the world of rightwing wacko cult figures
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:19 PM
Dec 26

Last edited Thu Dec 26, 2024, 08:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Elon is well on his way........

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
17. actually he's a black male who lives in Long Beach, CA
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:13 PM
Dec 25

I don't know what's happened to him, but it ain't pretty.

He used to be cool. AND reasonable.

multigraincracker

(35,129 posts)
27. So sorry to hear stories like that.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:43 PM
Dec 25

MSNM is having an effect on folks. I think it won’t take long for them to Find Out.
Already word about farmers getting mad because Elon wants to end subsidies to them.
I’m lucky to have few friends and family and none have flipped out/over yet.
How are you handling it. Ignore or question him?

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
54. he texted me this morning and i deleted it without reading
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 02:07 PM
Dec 26

i need to calm down as this is quite a shock.

he had the nerve to defend Elon Musk interfering with our political process "because he's rich", but "GEORGE SOROS"!!!!!!

i'm like, make it make sense.

Dem4life1234

(2,526 posts)
50. I never understood the few black men who support that conman
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:03 PM
Dec 26

I can bet he probably has some misogynistic energy running through him.

Thankfully most despise his ass.

Dan

(4,453 posts)
15. There's a lot to be said, but this sadly says it all....
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:09 PM
Dec 25

I am so sorry that you lost a friend last night.

ananda

(31,333 posts)
18. I kill them with politeness and laughter.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:14 PM
Dec 25

I have to talk with Trumpers sometimes, but
I always keep it very shallow and very short

I never make friends with them, only because
they really aren't worth knowing on any level.

I don't even like what they watch on TV.

John1956PA

(3,822 posts)
24. Facebook click-bait lures Fb users to Russian-fueled propaganda.
Wed Dec 25, 2024, 11:24 PM
Dec 25

On Facebook just today, I saw Russian troll propaganda. The troll's video extolled the "important" life of Trump.

FakeNoose

(36,862 posts)
29. It's one of the big reasons I quit Facebook
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:26 AM
Dec 26

Another was that I hated knowing how many of my former high school classmates had morphed into ChumpHumpers.
We went to school in the late 60's, back when it was cool to protest the Vietnam War.
So many of them are zombies now, it makes me sick. I'd rather not know.

usonian

(16,478 posts)
28. Best to avoid cult members.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:19 AM
Dec 26

They live in a fantasy world where "Fearless Leader" and propaganda ministers are the only source, and contradiction is just fine.

All that matters to the cult members is not being "one of the others"



All that matters to the leaders is greed, power, control of others, sexual domination and abuse. Not bad, eh?



And they call it divine.

airplaneman

(1,310 posts)
33. My prediction is:
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:03 AM
Dec 26

First term add 7 trillion to the deficit.
Second term add 14 trillion to the deficit. He might even add 7 trillion in the first 100 days.
-Airplane

DFW

(57,455 posts)
34. The only thing Trump will do "just like Bill Clinton did" is:
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:50 AM
Dec 26

Get older.

The similarities end there.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
35. The other term the cult members use a lot now is "migrant."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 05:12 AM
Dec 26

A Republican waited to escort the bartender to her car after the saloon closed because of what he called "migrants." This happened in a 95% upscale white neighborhood before my very eyes and ears.

Without boogeymen like Soros or migrants to hate or fear, Republicans have absolutely nothing.



yardwork

(65,828 posts)
40. The migrants line is a new one to me.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 10:42 AM
Dec 26

Drunk guys will say anything to leave with the pretty bartender.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
55. True about this tactic and he's been doing this for years. But this is the first time he used the word "migrant."
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 02:14 PM
Dec 26

Recently a journalist asked the Chicago PD Commissioner if the shooting victims were "migrants" and out west a RW pamphlet asked volunteers to ID "migrants" in their neighborhood.

Festivito

(13,671 posts)
37. Text him a reminder to give you the source for his story.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 09:57 AM
Dec 26

Then, you'll have a record of what he had said and when.

They will then claim that they did not say something. It's fun to then copy and paste their earlier remark.
Please do not fall into hatred and death. It is love that conquers all.

Martin68

(25,141 posts)
42. So often MAGAts have just gone silent when asked a relevant question or requested for a link.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:37 AM
Dec 26

You can't reason with mindless zombies.

sarisataka

(21,609 posts)
45. I texted a greeting to one of the few I know who voted for Trump:
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:43 AM
Dec 26


He called back laughing nis ass off. We talked about our families, how everyone was doing (both our wives have serious health issues), hopes we can get together in the coming year, etc. Not a word about politics. I have a better friend.

Dem4life1234

(2,526 posts)
46. Why do they think he's some kind of miracle worker?
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:54 AM
Dec 26

Are they not bright enough to see a snake oil salesman?

Just because he talks all loud?

What is wrong with people?

IbogaProject

(4,144 posts)
48. Why did T & the First Baby try and eliminate the debt limit?
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:56 AM
Dec 26

If they just needed room to get things in order before getting it reduced he would only need an increase not eliminating it entirely.

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
58. when i told him Trump tried to bully the GOP into eliminating the debt limit
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:10 PM
Dec 26

he called me a liar.

that's the problem with all these idiots -- that take disinformation and misinformation and run with it. and they never, ever bother to try to learn the truth.

sellitman

(11,698 posts)
51. I have a sneaking suspicion
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 12:19 PM
Dec 26

I have a sneaking suspicion by the time our incoming Dictator is finished trashing America I won't have a Republican friend left.

Just saying.

Buckeyeblue

(5,831 posts)
57. You should have offered to bet him.
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:07 PM
Dec 26

Trump will increase the deficit. The only hope he would have at erasing the deficit would be to set tax rates back to what they were under Clinton and massively reduce military spending. All other spending pales in comparison to military spending. So he would have to massively cut military spending, which will go over like a lead Chinese balloon.

Arazi

(7,607 posts)
61. Been reliably informed here that these type of convos don't happen
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 04:57 PM
Dec 26

“Nobody” has MAGAts in their life that launch into provocative talking points and shunning these folks is awful

ReRe

(11,378 posts)
62. You're GD right!
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:08 PM
Dec 26

You're bloody well right! I would have hung up straight away on that SOB. Merry Christmas, my arse! Block them out!
Get 'em right out of your life. Right now, everyone needs to stop and go through their contact list. One after the other, if he/she is a magat, block 'em!!! The nerve, to call you and pick a fight.

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
63. he loudly proclaimed that "Trump is your president"
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 06:19 PM
Dec 26

i said, No -- he's not.

I have standards.

wolfie001

(4,254 posts)
65. I feel when she said: This asshole is dead to me now.....
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 07:08 PM
Dec 26

....that summed it up completely. No humor in this situation at all. We're in a Cold War with rePUKES.

Callie1979

(611 posts)
68. You should let him know the pick for Treasury used to be Soro's PARTNER
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 08:13 PM
Dec 26

Thats sure to blow up his skirt.

HereForTheParty

(736 posts)
69. I have not and will not lose family or friends over this
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 08:55 PM
Dec 26

Not letting the asshole do that to me or mine.

DENVERPOPS

(11,332 posts)
70. I did away with
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 09:50 PM
Dec 26

most RepubliCONs during the CHENEY/RUMSFELD era. Lifetime Friends, acquaintances, family, and even neighbors.
I then eradicated the few remaining the first year of Trump's "Occupation/Installation in the White House........

andym

(5,907 posts)
71. Clinton had a deficit surplus partially by RAISING taxes on the wealthy
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 09:54 PM
Dec 26

Remind your friend of that and contrast with the idea of cutting taxes-- there's not enough to cut to make up the needed amount.

CatWoman

(79,919 posts)
72. he gave me some nonsense about how currency will be reevaluated
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 11:23 PM
Dec 26

hence the deficit will go away. which sounded completely looney tunes to me.

got to be straight out of the MAGA playbook.

this is why i wanted a link to look at the info for myself.

andym

(5,907 posts)
73. Maybe Trump is going to put the US dollar on the bitcoin standard-LOL
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 01:16 AM
Dec 27

Just like when Fort Knox held the US gold reserve to back the dollar. When Bitcoin goes to hypers' dreams of 100 trillion dollars, the US could pay off it's debt with plenty to spare. I'm afraid that is what some MAGAs and Trump really think. Trump is a master of half-baked ideas. What could go wrong?

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