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Frank D. Lincoln

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Sat Dec 28, 2024, 02:12 AM Dec 28

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plan Kali999 Dec 28 #1
When isn't there Republican infighting? As usual, the Democrats are required to bail them out Rhiannon12866 Dec 28 #2
The SOH has nothing to do with the Electoral Count certification process BumRushDaShow Dec 28 #3
Well, look at what we have here. Frank D. Lincoln Dec 30 #4
I expect every Democrat to vote for Jeffries. Emile Dec 30 #5

Kali999

(121 posts)
1. plan
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 02:23 AM
Dec 28

I hope that's the plan actually.

Rhiannon12866

(228,147 posts)
2. When isn't there Republican infighting? As usual, the Democrats are required to bail them out
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 03:37 AM
Dec 28

BumRushDaShow

(147,270 posts)
3. The SOH has nothing to do with the Electoral Count certification process
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 03:57 AM
Dec 28

except being there in the House Chamber as "host" (because that chamber is much bigger than the Senate chamber and can hold everyone) when the process is underway.

It's the Vice President of the U.S., a/k/a "President of the Senate", who happens to be VP Kamala Harris, that does the ceremonial role.

It's ironic how the framing is being accepted where then-VP Pence's role was (correctly) emphasized in 2020 but NOT Pelosi, who was SOH at the time, but now all of sudden, when the VP is a Democrat, she's ignored.

All that is supposed to happen is reading out the results from the states and the threshold for "objections" has been increased in the 2022 update - the Electoral Count Reform Act.

(snip)

SEC. 109. Clarifications relating to counting electoral votes.

(a) In general.—Section 15 of title 3, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

Ҥ 15. Counting electoral votes in Congress

“(a) In general.—Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o'clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer.

“(b) Powers of the President of Senate.—

“(1) MINISTERIAL IN NATURE.—Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, the role of the President of the Senate while presiding over the joint meeting shall be limited to performing solely ministerial duties.

“(2) POWERS EXPLICITLY DENIED.—The President of the Senate shall have no power to solely determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.

“(c) Appointment of tellers.—At the joint meeting of the Senate and House of Representatives described in subsection (a), there shall be present two tellers previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two tellers previously appointed on the part of the House of Representatives by the presiding officers of the respective chambers.

“(d) Procedure at joint meeting generally.—

“(1) IN GENERAL.—The President of the Senate shall—

“(A) open the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the votes of electors appointed pursuant to a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors issued pursuant to section 5, in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and

“(B) upon opening any certificate, hand the certificate and any accompanying papers to the tellers, who shall read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses.

(snip)


If there is no SOH, they'll do like the last time when they were unable to elect someone the first day - have the Clerk of the House run the session.

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
4. Well, look at what we have here.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:06 AM
Dec 30

[https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143364111|

Appearing Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Rep. Mike Lawler of New York said Republicans are "playing with fire" if they are considering replacing Johnson as speaker of the House, pointing to the chaotic removal of former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy last year.


"We can't get anything done unless we have a Speaker — including certifying President Trump's election on January 6th," Lawler added. "So, to waste time over a nonsensical, intramural food fight is a joke."


(Emphasis added)

Emile

(32,451 posts)
5. I expect every Democrat to vote for Jeffries.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:57 AM
Dec 30
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