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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:21 AM

Honestly there is one think I think every time we have a mass shooting

I don't think the majority of us are that far off, yet I see posts with Huge gun fights, which I expect are emotionally driven.

So here goes, with full disclosure. I am a 50 year old who never owned a gun. Have shot pistols, shotguns, rifles, and semi automatics. Went dove hunting once, shot the first dove, got no thrill, thought that was a fucking waste of a dove's life, but never judged the others who liked dove hunting

Now I believe that if my neighbor wants to own guns, he/she can, but they should be registered. I also believe that if my neighbor wants to own a cache of guns that should be easily identified, just as if my neighbor was a sex offender. I should be able to go online and determine that my neighbor owns 50 semi automatics so I can make informed decisions on how to protect my family. I am not restricting my neighbors rights, just protecting my rights and family.

I also believe that every gun and ammo purchased made by that neighbor should be accessible to me with a bit of research. That way if my neighbor was acting strange around the local park or school, I could make a better decision.

So, am I being unreasonable?
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Reply Honestly there is one think I think every time we have a mass shooting (Original post)
rufus dog Dec 2012 OP
rufus dog Dec 2012 #1
ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #2
rufus dog Dec 2012 #3
rufus dog Dec 2012 #4
Union Scribe Dec 2012 #5
Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #6
rufus dog Dec 2012 #9
Union Scribe Dec 2012 #10
rufus dog Dec 2012 #7
Union Scribe Dec 2012 #8
Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #11

Response to rufus dog (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:29 AM

1. For those saying I am being unreasonable, help me out

I am really opened minded on this one, but please point out as to where I am infringing on another's right.

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Response to rufus dog (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:30 AM

2. I voted "no," but I think someone could have the opposite opinion, and still not be unreasonable. nt

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:32 AM

3. fair enough

because this one truly does blow my mind. Bluntly, I don't get it!

What is unreasonable about registering guns?

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:42 AM

4. kick again

because I truly don't get it!

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Response to rufus dog (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:46 AM

5. Part of it is unreasonable, to me.

The looking up of your neighbors "as if my neighbor was a sex offender," is a gross violation of people's privacy. There's a presumption of criminal tendency there, in equating those things and how we treat those people, that troubles me.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:54 AM

6. A sex offender has been adjudged to have done something wrong

at least once, in the past.

I have four guns--hardly an arsenal--but I have never had so much as a speeding ticket in my life. I'm not sure why the presumption of danger should fall on me.

My neighbor down the road has an arsenal. He probably has thirty or forty guns in his home (in a very large, secure safe). He also happens to be the police chief.

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:02 AM

9. see my post below

it is a real case, the "sex offender" took a piss on a golf course 200+ yards from a pre school. He is either extremely well hung or a victim of laws that offer zero tolerance, yet there he is judged as doing something wrong.

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:03 AM

10. Agreed.

Treating demonstrated dangers to society like those who haven't done anything wrong is not the kind of society I think befits a free people living under the Constitution.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:58 AM

7. just want to protect my family

what is better than having full disclosure.

If I have a neighbor who took a piss on a golf course two hundred yards from a preschool and is required to be a registered sex offender, shouldn't I know if another neighbor has a semiautomatic?

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:01 AM

8. The difference is one of those people DID something

If you should have access to whatever might signal future problems, then why not a searchable public database of mental illness? Why shouldn't you know if your neighbor hears voices? Privacy, that's why not. And we don't judge people by things they could maybe do, that's why not.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:22 AM

11. Also, how much would crime go up if you post who has guns

 

I own two AR-15's. They are expensive rifles. I don't want that fact advertised on the internet, along with my address. That is just asking for my house to be robbed while I'm at work/vacation. They are locked in a very secure safe, with an alarm, so short of somebody bringing welding equipment, I'm safe, but I think your idea would cause gun thefts to skyrocket, making you less dangerous.

Also, why does it matter if your neighbor has one gun or 50. I happen to know my neighbor has a few guns, it doesn't bother me one bit. I also have no reason to believe they are stolen or illegal. I would be much more worried about a neighbor who had illegal guns, wondering what their intent was, but those would not show up on any report, so it wouldn't help.

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