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blueseas

(11,702 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:34 PM Jan 12

If you want to get out of a marriage now may be the time.


More than 30 states and in the next US congress there will be what I call a set of creeping marriage modifications. These are a wide range of changes to marriage law that will change the how you get divorced and married including rolling back the concept of no fault divorce.

What do these proposed laws consist of? A whole basket of things. Some of these laws have been optional for years like extended contracts or covenants but have been famously unpopular.

So let us start out by saying a contractural marriage is an umbrella that says you can sign a contract that outlines more responsibilities in a marriage than already exist like a prenuptial or a financial agreements. The problem is (to MAGA) that these contracts can be voided if one person is very young (13 or 14), under duress, or if the contract is for marriage between two close relatives. See my previous article on men who homestead their wives.

But setting aside the more sinister nonsense, what is really going on? Well it is really a series of actions designed to fundamentally change marriage not through a single crazy law change but through a cross linking of laws the results in a new model.

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no_hypocrisy

(50,720 posts)
1. You could be trapped in a marriage replete with domestic violence.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jan 12

Imagine calling the Police after a violent episode. They come. They talk to your husband and leave, telling you that "he's all right now."

No divorce because the Police refuse to report there was violence.

blueseas

(11,702 posts)
2. And this
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jan 12

However legal changes are being proposed that would allow a husband to carry spousal privilege. Remember the new laws see men and women as different and unequal and assume there must be a jury trial before divorce. But the woman cannot now testify if the husband objects. So all those permitted reasons for divorce are now moot. One law shuts down the other with a single court ruling.

valleyrogue

(1,890 posts)
3. They want a return to coverture.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:23 PM
Jan 12

Women aren't going back to the home, and more and more of them are rejecting marriage altogether, which is why I say it is dying out in the West. The religious right knows this, and what they are trying to do is a last ditch attempt to shore it and patriarchy. They are going to lose.

Irish_Dem

(66,267 posts)
5. Yes the women in some countries are reject dating men and marriage to them.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:56 PM
Jan 12

The laws and attitudes are not in women's bests interests there.
Japan and South Korea.

Retrograde

(10,989 posts)
6. I read once that the states that used to be part of Mexico
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:01 PM
Jan 12

kept a lot of Mexican marriage law because they wanted to encourage women to settle there. Among there laws were some on community property, which said that a married woman was entitled to a portion of property in a marriage in case of divorce. A lot of eastern states didn't give women this protection until the late 20th century - if then.

Ilsa

(62,602 posts)
9. Community property laws did alot to protect women's
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jan 13

ownership of real property, especially ranches and farms that had been passed down generations, IIRC. So much in fact that some states, like Texas, didn't have alimony until recently, just child support.

Diraven

(1,304 posts)
8. No fault divorce is on the chopping block
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:27 PM
Jan 12

In several red states (Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska I've heard so far are all going to try).

efhmc

(15,292 posts)
11. In this little old lady's opinion, what this is going to do to marriage is kill it for most younger women.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 12:13 AM
Jan 13

There is nothing economically good for them in it so unless it is a real bonded love match, why make a legal bond?

lostnfound

(16,887 posts)
13. Combine it with the right's fight against DEI, strategy is to make women's career choices plummet again
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 04:01 AM
Jan 13

Companies are folding on attacks against their DEI programs. American Airlines and others sued for it, and 401K not permitted to invest in ESG funds.

Perhaps their strategy is broader than we think.

Hekate

(96,799 posts)
14. The RW is trying to undo the entire 20th century, imo
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 04:14 AM
Jan 13

Women’s rights, civil rights, workers’ rights, children’s rights — you name it. Every bit of progress that people fought and died for in the 20th century — the oligarchs and the RWNJs are working together to overturn.

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