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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:44 PM Jan 2012

ABC Analysis: Bain Attacks Helped Gingrich Get Lower Income Voters

ABC Analysis: Bain Attacks Helped Gingrich Get Lower Income Voters

An ABC News analysis of their exit polling showed a few numbers that were quite clear even before the South Carolina primary vote — many voters were swayed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s performances in the GOP debates and many voters broke at the last minute for Newt, resulting in a huge victory.

But there was also a counterintuitive point as well — Gingrich’s attacks on former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s work as the CEO of Bain Capital, derided by many conservatives and pundits as anti-free enterprise, may have worked really well with one group of voters in the primary. From ABC:

The controversy over Romney’s experience at Bain Capital may have done him some damage as well. While almost two-thirds saw his work there positively, a not-insubstantial 28 percent saw it as a negative – and among these voters Romney had essentially no support – 3 percent, to Gingrich’s 50. Skeptics of his experience at Bain disproportionately included lower-income voters, as well as those focused on moral character.

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ABC Analysis: Bain Attacks Helped Gingrich Get Lower Income Voters (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Maybe... just maybe BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #1
I think the Bain issue is going to make it an uphill battle for Romney. joshcryer Jan 2012 #2
Agree. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #3
Did we need an analysis to tell us that? I don't think so. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #4
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #6
Some liberals vote against their interests, too. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #9
ProSense... tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #5
He's ProSense Jan 2012 #8
There's a real interesting, counterintuitive sense there Prism Jan 2012 #7

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
1. Maybe... just maybe
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jan 2012

the zombie hoards are waking up and will finally figure out that the 1%ers being trumpeted by Faux Snooze (and the likes of the greedy wealthy like Rash Limballs) really don't care about them.

I was seeing this same type of discord by FReeps in one of the their threads that someone linked to from here. More and more of them are starting to "get it".

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
2. I think the Bain issue is going to make it an uphill battle for Romney.
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:53 PM
Jan 2012

Haven't ruled him out yet because we still have FL, and we'll see how that plays out.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Well,
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jan 2012

"Did we need an analysis to tell us that? I don't think so."

...considering that Republicans tend to vote against their interest, there was no guarantee it would work.

I mean, Gingrich is a rich asshole too.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Some liberals vote against their interests, too.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jan 2012

Everyone has multiple interests. Blue collar Repubs don't have just one interest. They have several key interests. So even tho they may vote against one of those interests, they are voting for another interest. Just like some liberals. Wealthy liberals, for example.

Yeah, Gingrich is rich, too. They're all rich. But Bain is a corporate job-costing corruption scandal by a guy who uses Bain as an example of him knowing how to create jobs.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
5. ProSense...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jan 2012

since you are the absolute best on here...I would love to see you post something backing up why I shouldn't be worried about Gingrich being the nominee! I swear, it's starting to freak me out!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. He's
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jan 2012

"I would love to see you post something backing up why I shouldn't be worried about Gingrich being the nominee! I swear, it's starting to freak me out!"

...not on the ballot in two states.

Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry Fail to Qualify for Virginia Ballot
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/newt-gingrich-and-others-fail-to-qualify-for-virginia-ballot/

Newt Gingrich fails to get on Missouri ballot
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57330313-503544/newt-gingrich-fails-to-get-on-missouri-ballot/

He also has huge issues.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002199496

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
7. There's a real interesting, counterintuitive sense there
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:47 AM
Jan 2012

Liberal critiques of Republican voters generally display poorer conservatives as obsessed with cultural issues like morality and sex over their own economic well-being.

And yet, going by this poll, you have a subset of Republican voters who, when faced with a blatantly vile sexual hypocrite and an unethical financial snake, decided to oppose the financial robber baron.

This may underline that the financial fall-out of Wall Street's greed will resonate this election. That will benefit us by default, but it will indicate some care must be taken by the Obama campaign. While trading cultural barbs may be fun, there's a peril that a game of Who's Been Friendlier With Wall Street may play out, and the current administration has not exactly immunized themselves to charges from that direction.

When even the most conservative of Republican primary voters are going "Wait a minute. Who cares who fucked who. Wall Street is ripping us off!" there's danger for the Establishment.

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