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senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:18 PM Monday

So apparently Dems are bringing it today but CNN and MSNBC aren't

interested. For at least the last half hour they gave him free reign to hold forth live complete with the lie about condoms going to Gaza or whatever.

In the meantime, the Dems are actually gaining entrance to USAID and standing up the way we are asking them to. There is video available but the corporate media isn't interested.

Do I have this right?

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So apparently Dems are bringing it today but CNN and MSNBC aren't (Original Post) senseandsensibility Monday OP
I'm watching it on claudette Monday #1
I just saw a very short clip of the Dems on MSNBC senseandsensibility Monday #4
Link? nolabear Monday #5
This is not the live video claudette Monday #12
Thank you! At least Google is covering this. ancianita Monday #37
well, they are hosting Van Hollen's video, anyway LymphocyteLover Monday #64
Google doesn't just 'host.' Google owns YouTube. Both are potential forces for good from Silicon Valley, imo. ancianita Monday #66
why was the CEO of Google at Trump's inauguration then? And agreed to change the map to Gulf of America? LymphocyteLover Monday #70
Pichai was appointed to that position by Google's founder, Larry Page (Sergey Brin was the other) Pichai became ancianita Monday #73
they shouldn't have been supporting this criminal POTUS AT ALL LymphocyteLover Tuesday #74
Yep, just business. ancianita Tuesday #75
Worse than that. Treasonous IMO LymphocyteLover Tuesday #77
Nope. They're not. They're looking out for their business interests, and to be left alone. You're looking at the exact ancianita Tuesday #78
Google? Cirsium Tuesday #84
Well, believe it or not, Google still is a force for good. Google's former CEO's don't support the felon or his ancianita Tuesday #88
Monopoly is good? Cirsium Tuesday #89
Google was formed 27 years ago. There was no one else on earth that had the search engine capability ancianita Tuesday #92
I knew the founders Cirsium Tuesday #93
Who did you know? ancianita Tuesday #94
Page and Brin Cirsium Tuesday #95
And ... ancianita Tuesday #97
The possibilities Cirsium Tuesday #98
I've used Google extensively since 2002 and haven't seen anything like what you describe, and I ancianita Tuesday #99
OK I guess Cirsium Tuesday #100
Thanks for the link. This is a very good response by Democrats. K&R. GoodRaisin Tuesday #96
Link ? dweller Monday #10
Sorry....I should have posted it claudette Monday #15
You should post it as dweller Monday #17
Musk is going to bring him down! nolabear Monday #21
Bring who down? claudette Monday #25
who else? NJCher Monday #51
I do indeed. nolabear Monday #67
I am as well. You Tube is my favorite way to find out what is going on yellowdogintexas Monday #18
I like it because claudette Monday #23
Probably because of your VPN n/t mtngirl47 Monday #56
I have a you tube account. Linda ladeewolf Monday #60
Even if you dont sign in on your computer thatdemguy Tuesday #104
Whether they know it's me or not, Linda ladeewolf Tuesday #105
Yes that is very much worth it. Years ago I almost paid for youtube to stop commercials thatdemguy Tuesday #106
Thanks. yellow dahlia Monday #29
Yes!!! EarthAbides Monday #2
Tigers don't change their stripes Keepthesoulalive Monday #3
Please show me where I said I expected any such thing senseandsensibility Monday #8
I asked a question in a civil manner on a discussion board Keepthesoulalive Monday #16
You asked me why I expected the media to tell the truth senseandsensibility Monday #24
This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Monday #20
For profit media has their own agenda (profit) Think. Again. Monday #6
And treat all media as if they have motives. Some $$$s, some political/ideological. erronis Monday #58
I agree, for-profit media is NOT bias-free journalism. Think. Again. Monday #59
Well, I don't know Mountain Mule Monday #63
This is how the media censors the Democratic message. They are not JohnSJ Monday #7
This is why JustAnotherGen Tuesday #102
Hopefully it'll air later mzmolly Monday #9
Well, I know Rachel, Chris and Lawrence senseandsensibility Monday #13
Unfortunately, not everyone has cable. People are unaware of eloon's coup! SheltieLover Monday #27
Exactly. The only time... littlemissmartypants Monday #39
Fully agree! mzmolly Monday #34
"gaining entrance" , they got in? - Just monitored MSNBC on TuneIn radio, and they had Drumpf UTUSN Monday #11
Exactly senseandsensibility Monday #14
They're all afraid of him - and the power he might have -that he might use. calimary Monday #68
See my post # 44 HighFired49 Monday #45
At 1:56 pm Wicked Blue posted C-span yorkster Monday #19
Just unbelievably biased senseandsensibility Monday #53
Not surprising but rotten just the same. yorkster Monday #65
No surprise at all... NEOH Monday #22
Shocking indeed malaise Monday #26
THE CORPORATE MEDIA IS NOT OUR FRIEND Hassler Monday #28
Is this being streamed on TikToc? DBoon Monday #30
Dem Reps:"Hey! Where is the press?" LuvLoogie Monday #31
Watching the video JustAnotherGen Monday #32
Yes! YouTube is basically free anyway!! LeftInTX Monday #46
Damn it, trump farts and they kacekwl Monday #33
Might be a double standard? senseandsensibility Monday #36
Probably have to wait until... 2naSalit Monday #35
A perfect example of the main issue Mblaze Monday #38
msnbc is a wolf in sheep's clothing quakerboy Monday #40
I thought they were more obsessed with the price of eggs senseandsensibility Monday #47
One and the same quakerboy Tuesday #87
Every freaking congresscritter... littlemissmartypants Monday #41
To contact Rachel Maddow. ancianita Monday #42
Actually I have confidence senseandsensibility Monday #48
Me, too. And Lawrence. But it doesn't hurt to have the information & for us to let them know this is important, right? ancianita Monday #50
You know that msm is not our friend. ananda Monday #43
Democrats blocked from entering USAID HighFired49 Monday #44
I want to know how Eloon and his little helpers can run people/employee's Bengus81 Monday #49
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Monday #52
This whole story is beyond bizarre Seinan Sensei Monday #54
YT also has the PBS coverage. electric_blue68 Monday #55
Viktor Orbn's Authoritarian Playbook- Scapegoat minorities. Undermine the judiciary. Control the media jalan48 Monday #57
I turned on cnn and there was a brief video of some demonstrations I think? Meowmee Monday #61
this is exactly what they did during the campaign 4catsmom Monday #62
Hopefully Rachel and Lawrence cover it tonight. Emile Monday #69
So, how did it go when you watched Nicolle Wallace and Rachel Maddow? Hekate Monday #71
Of course not senseandsensibility Tuesday #86
Your condemnation was of the entire industry and all the people therein. Can't help you if you won't actually look. Hekate Tuesday #90
My condemnation, as you put it, was of MSNBC's hosts on the air at the time. senseandsensibility Tuesday #91
What more evidence is needed that they're majority Republican owned and controlled? live love laugh Monday #72
They did not gain entrance to the building, gab13by13 Tuesday #76
MSNBC Prime time shows extensively covered GoreWon2000 Tuesday #79
My OP was not posted during prime time senseandsensibility Tuesday #85
"The revolution will not be televised"?? In this case, fight for justice won't be televised?? Evolve Dammit Tuesday #80
The mainstream media is owned by oligarchs. nt TBF Tuesday #81
You mean our do-nothing Dems? wryter2000 Tuesday #82
It seem counter intuitive to me to complain about condoms going to Gaza. Cheaper for us to pay for that then continued Jit423 Tuesday #83
They are a party to the coup. Bluethroughu Tuesday #101
It is called censoring the Democratic message. They did it the other day when Democratic representativse stood before JohnSJ Tuesday #103
I guess that explains why I keep hearing/reading on "the internet" how Democrats are lazy * Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #107

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
73. Pichai was appointed to that position by Google's founder, Larry Page (Sergey Brin was the other) Pichai became
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 11:26 PM
Monday

head of Alphabet, which Google owners Brin and Page decided to form as its holding company (another corporate layer for public investment). Pichai is in a CEO role in a holding company. Which means that Brin and Page are still in control of Google.

Read about Google, then you'll see its goals for the public. Draw your own conclusions about why former Google CEO's -- Larry Page(who bought then developed the greatest AI on the planet, DeepMind), Sergey Brin, Eric Schmidt -- were not on that platform.


The only oligarch on the platform who was all in for owning government was Musk. The others were there for symbolic support, but none of them are giving this administration anything but money. It's Musk who's being the bad guy; and we'll find out if the others on that platform let him. We should know that the other MAGA founders were usually against Musk's ideas. How do I know? Because I've read 11 books on AI and am familiar with those guys on the platform.

The very best book, and a real page turner, on the history of AI and the best of Silicon Valley minds is this. Read it and you'll learn reasons for knowing who the good guys and bad guys are in Silicon Valley. Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are. The rest are idealists who want futures for their children on Earth, not Mars.

(sorry for not knowing how to control graphics size on imgur )

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
78. Nope. They're not. They're looking out for their business interests, and to be left alone. You're looking at the exact
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 11:19 AM
Tuesday

wrong guys.

If you want to find traitors, you've got him -- Musk. He's the guy all those guys on the inaugural platform despise. None of them would ever think to conduct a domestic terrorism cyberattack on the United States Treasury, along with an insurrection to take over the Treasury, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) and General Services Administration (GSA), and now USAID. Bill Gates and three other other Big Tech people monitor DOGE and Musk's data movements; they can do this from the Pentagon, where they have war rooms.

Musk's cyberattack hacker team has already gained access to the Treasury Department’s payment system, allowing him access to a vast range of sensitive information about tens of millions of citizens, businesses, and more. DOGE personnel attempted to improperly access classified information and security systems at the US Agency for International Development (USAID), and then, with no help from DHS's Secret Service, the top USAID security officials who tried to thwart the attempt were immediately put on leave.
Right now, today, DOGE personnel have accessed classified material across agencies.

Musk's pattern of hostile takeover escalated further when DOGE personnel broke into the USAID building and demanded access to USAID’s security systems and personnel files — systems that contain not just
-- employee data, but
-- detailed intelligence about humanitarian operations,
-- diplomatic communications, and
-- information about vulnerable populations in crisis regions that could put lives at risk if compromised.

Musk is guilty of domestic cybarattack against the United States. Musk is guilty of treason.

And now he's going after CISA, The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and core part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). CISA responsible for cybersecurity and infrastructure protection across all levels of government, coordinating cybersecurity programs with U.S. states, and improving the government's cybersecurity protections against private and nation-state hackers.

Since Musk is a private hacker leader, he's going after CISA.

Keep your eye on Musk; he's the traitor; not Silicon Valley oligarchs who historically have despised him and continue to despise him. They're silent, but once the US military acts, they'll help.
https://archive.ph/7cNvr

The US Military has in fact historically funded the establishment of what now is Silicon Valley. It's been a long and complicated relationship, which is what really has me worried, because even though the USM swears an oath top to bottom to the US Constitution, it still has to get paid. Will it side with SV oligarchs who back civilians? or with an oligarch who's unconstitutionally taken over their paymaster?
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/silicon-valley/

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
88. Well, believe it or not, Google still is a force for good. Google's former CEO's don't support the felon or his
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:41 PM
Tuesday

WH "special" oligarch. Believe what you want, but...

Billions enjoy what Google offers including
email (Gmail),
navigation and mapping (Waze, Maps and Earth),
cloud computing (Cloud),
web navigation (Chrome),
video sharing (YouTube),
operating systems (Android),
language translation (Translate),
photo storage (Photos), videotelephony (Meet),
smart home (Nest),
smartphones (Pixel),
wearable technology (Pixel Watch and Fitbit),
music streaming (YouTube Music),
video on demand (YouTube TV),
AI (Google Assistant and Gemini),
machine learning APIs (TensorFlow),

and Google, thanks to Jeff Dean, the godfather of Silicon Valley makes its own AI microchips (TPU) and more.
Google's other ventures outside of internet services and consumer electronics include quantum computing (Sycamore), self-driving cars (Waymo, formerly the Google Self-Driving Car Project), smart cities (Sidewalk Labs), and transformer models (Google DeepMind).

Google Search and YouTube are the two most-visited websites worldwide. Google is also the largest search engine, mapping and navigation application, email provider, office suite, online video platform, photo and cloud storage provider, mobile operating system, web browser, machine learning framework, and AI virtual assistant provider in the world as measured by market share. On the list of most valuable brands, Google is ranked second by Forbes.

Cirsium

(1,647 posts)
89. Monopoly is good?
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:58 PM
Tuesday

Yes, Google is big. Yes Google has a lot of power over our lives. All bow down to the great and mighty Google.

Google gives $1 million to Trump inauguration

Google has donated $1 million to President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration fund, the company confirmed to POLITICO Thursday, matching contributions from Meta, Amazon, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Apple CEO Tim Cook.

Tech companies have clamored to win Trump over in the months since his election, with Google’s CEO Sundar Pichai among a line of executives who have flocked to Mar-a-Lago for meetings with the incoming president

“Google is pleased to support the 2025 inauguration, with a livestream on YouTube and a direct link on our homepage. We’re also donating to the inaugural committee,” Karan Bhatia, Google’s global head of government affairs and public policy, said in a statement. The company made its donation Monday.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/09/congress/google-donation-donald-trump-inauguration-00197233

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
92. Google was formed 27 years ago. There was no one else on earth that had the search engine capability
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:50 PM
Tuesday

it built by 2000. The previous search engine, Yahoo, first in the market, was left in the dust. It still exists and folks still use it. That a competitor like Google far outstrips Yahoo's capabilities doesn't mean Google can be called a monopoly. As long as NVIDIA also had AMD as a chip competitor, it hasn't a monopoly, either, but on one has been talking about breaking NVIDIA up. For decades, both Google and NVIDIA were best at what they do, is all. Being big and the best at what one does doesn't make one evil.

Google owns DeepMind, the best AI out there, and closer than its competitors to AGI. Google's mission since acquiring DeepMind in 2014 has been that of its original three owners of the London lab, who contracted the sale with Google on two written conditions --
a) DeepMind technology never be used for military purposes, and b) that Google establish an independent ethics board that would oversee the use of DeepMind's AGI technology whenever that may arrive -- or the sale would not happen. And so the US Military has had to develop its own AI, Torch.

Break up Google to turn what of its holdings over? And to whom? Which companies would do internet search services equally as well or better? Would those companies be "good"? If Elon Musk purchased parts of Google's services, would Google then be good?

Cirsium

(1,647 posts)
95. Page and Brin
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:10 PM
Tuesday

Lawrence Page and Sergey Brin, of course. I say "knew them" meaning I talked to them on the phone a few times back in '98, not that I went out to dinner with them. I was in Ann Arbor when Page was there, early 90s, and I knew people who knew him. The circle of computer pioneers was pretty small, and included Thomas Knoll, developer of Photoshop. I watched Kroll showing a couple of graphic artists the first iteration of Photoshop - 1987? My interest was digital sound, but web and graphics people were part of the same crowd.

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
97. And ...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:39 PM
Tuesday

do you think they've changed so much that you wouldn't know them now?

I mean, I didn't see them on the inaugural dais, did you?

Cirsium

(1,647 posts)
98. The possibilities
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:55 PM
Tuesday

The original vision as I understood it was to serve the public, and that meant delivering the most accurate results possible. Their motto at the time was "don't be evil." That was a wonderful time, but of course it couldn't last. How far we have fallen! I don't even use Google any more for search as it is so commercialized, corrupted and just generally useless. When they went public that was the beginning of the end. The dream turned into a nightmare. Results bought and paid for, "SEO" - fake pages, fake sites - surveillance and data collecting and data selling. The exact opposite of the original vision. The new motto: "be as evil as you can get away with because $$$$$$$."

I know that many Americans worship the wealthy, and see them as some sort of gods rather than as the robber barons they actually are. "They're rich, they must be doing something right!" and "if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?" Disgusting. And then we wonder how the billionaires got control over the country.

ancianita

(39,484 posts)
99. I've used Google extensively since 2002 and haven't seen anything like what you describe, and I
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:04 PM
Tuesday

was a teacher of that kind of thing back in the day. What you're describing has only happened in the last eight years, and shows up on platforms -- since around 2017 about Obama, although they existed before then -- but not from Google search engines, from what I've seen. I also like Google's AI, which is connected to Google DeepMind.

And then we wonder how the billionaires got control over the country.

That happened apart from Silicon Valley billionaires and oligarchs.
It's pretty well known that "billionaires got control" of SCOTUS through the Koch network of oligarchs, as Senator Whitehouse has publicly laid out the history of. They didn't get control of congress or or the executive branch until this year. So far, they don't have control over the country; just an Elon Musk gang have control over The People's wealth at the Treasury, and data and systems of a few other agencies. If we still have a lawful and functioning judiciary, SCOTUS will likely support its rulings. If we still have a functioning DOJ, yet to be seen, we'll still have functioning law enforcement.

yellowdogintexas

(22,988 posts)
18. I am as well. You Tube is my favorite way to find out what is going on
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:33 PM
Monday

This is so good
THey are giving me tips to write about

claudette

(4,951 posts)
23. I like it because
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:36 PM
Monday

you don't need to "sign in" which is required when someone posts the video here. I don't know what "sign in" they want? I have a YouTube account and still they won't accept it. So I search YouTube - it's easier. LOL

Linda ladeewolf

(614 posts)
60. I have a you tube account.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:05 PM
Monday

I never sign in on my computer to you tube, I am subscribed to many channels but never comment from my computer. I sign in on my iPad and make my comments there. I don’t watch the videos on my iPad though, I hate commercials. One or three for every 5 minutes of video, worse than television.

thatdemguy

(566 posts)
104. Even if you dont sign in on your computer
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:28 PM
Tuesday

They have connected you sign in on the ipad to the computer. They mine the cookies and see that you use the same sites, they see your ip address from your cable company, they see the mac address of the router.

They know its you on every device you own and use, even if you never sign in.

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
8. Please show me where I said I expected any such thing
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:22 PM
Monday

I am longtime critic of the corporate media and have a decades long history of going after them right here on DU. Your scolding is weird and inappropriate. I will continue to call them out, thank you very much, and you continue to do you.

Keepthesoulalive

(986 posts)
16. I asked a question in a civil manner on a discussion board
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:31 PM
Monday

This was not personal. I will always question why we continue to believe in legacy media , when they had their whole body on the scale. They don’t answer to us and they never will.

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
24. You asked me why I expected the media to tell the truth
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:41 PM
Monday

You directed your question to me personally. If you had worded it the same way as your second message I wouldn't have objected. The fact remains I don't expect that and never said I did.

Response to senseandsensibility (Reply #8)

Think. Again.

(21,282 posts)
6. For profit media has their own agenda (profit)
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:21 PM
Monday

It's up to Americans to communicate with each other about the well-being of our Nation.

Share the info you want people to know about.

erronis

(17,644 posts)
58. And treat all media as if they have motives. Some $$$s, some political/ideological.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:58 PM
Monday

I can't think of any well-known media outlets that don't have biases.

If their biases are that they can be bought by advertisers - let it be known.

Other biases are caused by:
- rich owners (witness NYT, WaPo, LATimes, .......)
- hidden agendas (witness RT, Washington Times and Korean religious nut.)
- founder personalities (too many of these in the more progressive media)
-

JohnSJ

(97,279 posts)
7. This is how the media censors the Democratic message. They are not
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:22 PM
Monday

purveyors of information, but an outlet for republican propaganda.

JustAnotherGen

(34,268 posts)
102. This is why
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:26 PM
Tuesday

I'm not consuming media the way I used to. They are propagandists for Trump.

Congress is going to have to do something radical to get on screens. And do it over, and over, and over again.

I'm old enough to remember wall to wall coverage of the Tea Party idiots.

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
13. Well, I know Rachel, Chris and Lawrence
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:29 PM
Monday

will do it justice. But this is breaking news. There is no reason for the daytime "news" programs to ignore it or barely mention it.

littlemissmartypants

(26,510 posts)
39. Exactly. The only time...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:46 PM
Monday

I've seen a Maddow segment is here. Maybe twice.

We no longer have a free press. It's every consumer for themselves so to speak.

No wonder we're an ill-informed, disjointed, idiotic mess of a populace.

UTUSN

(73,201 posts)
11. "gaining entrance" , they got in? - Just monitored MSNBC on TuneIn radio, and they had Drumpf
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:28 PM
Monday

blathering on, with reporters being SO deferential and SO interested like he's a font of policy content.

I stopped all cable punditry some time back, specifically MSNBC in 2012 when they were slamming OBAMA or something, then cut the cable, now use practically only YouTube on Roku and TuneIn radio.







yorkster

(2,668 posts)
19. At 1:56 pm Wicked Blue posted C-span
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:34 PM
Monday

coverage of all the Dem. speakers in front of USAID building. His title is self-explanatory.
Watch it all. Great speakers, major Dem. senators and congresspeople. Raskin McGovern, Murphy. Omar and more.They went inside the bldng. and after that no coverage except of Marco Rubio.

I checked MSNBC and CNN and nothing except Trump in the OvL Office. Couldn't believe it.

If Nicolle Wallace complains about Dem.
Inaction with no mention of this...aaargh.


senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
53. Just unbelievably biased
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:21 PM
Monday

coverage today on Jansing and Tur's show. I haven't watched them in months now, so it was shocking how bad it was.

NEOH

(121 posts)
22. No surprise at all...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:35 PM
Monday

No surprise at all…At this time, we simply cannot count on Corporate Media for any help whatsoever. End of story.

Hassler

(3,982 posts)
28. THE CORPORATE MEDIA IS NOT OUR FRIEND
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:45 PM
Monday

Never was. At least not since Walter Chronkite. Fortunately, there are unlimited other options to get the story out. And they are using them.

DBoon

(23,408 posts)
30. Is this being streamed on TikToc?
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 02:55 PM
Monday

Other popular social media?

If so let us know where so we can make an organized effort to upvote it.

LuvLoogie

(7,724 posts)
31. Dem Reps:"Hey! Where is the press?"
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:01 PM
Monday

"I don't know. Didn't you call them?"

"Who me? I thought you were going to call them?"

"Well call them now!"

The Press: "You should have called us."

Dems: "Where were you?"

The Press; "I'm sorry. Did you say something?"

JustAnotherGen

(34,268 posts)
32. Watching the video
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:02 PM
Monday

on C-Span.

House and Senate Dems need YouTube Channels with a way to alert/email us when new content is available or live.

LeftInTX

(32,076 posts)
46. Yes! YouTube is basically free anyway!!
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:09 PM
Monday

(Well it is for me)

They should really take advantage of YouTube!

The DNC uses it. The caucuses should also use it.

2naSalit

(94,971 posts)
35. Probably have to wait until...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:12 PM
Monday

Nicolle comes on before anyone will cover any of this. After her show starts is when I expect to really see reporting on it. Don;t expect anything but gloating from those on air before that.

Mblaze

(468 posts)
38. A perfect example of the main issue
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:34 PM
Monday

When people complain that Dems don't speak out enough. They often do but billionaire media owners insure that the coverage is not there. We are in the grasping hands of oligarchs.

quakerboy

(14,270 posts)
40. msnbc is a wolf in sheep's clothing
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:47 PM
Monday

CNN is just an out and declared wolf.

I am not much for tv news. Even at its best, it's only useful for pointing out a topic you then have to go dig up useful and in depth info on.

But I watched a few shows before the election. Msnbc was harping on interest rates every single time I turned them on. Till election day. Then that suddenly went away.

quakerboy

(14,270 posts)
87. One and the same
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:25 PM
Tuesday

They talked about trump being a threat to democracy, but towed the corporate line and undercut that every other breath.

littlemissmartypants

(26,510 posts)
41. Every freaking congresscritter...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:51 PM
Monday

Should have their own video team. It only takes a camera person!

Or gopro cameras attached to their fucking foreheads every where they go.

Dammit people! How stupid are we?

It's the twenty first century for gawds sake!!

ananda

(31,192 posts)
43. You know that msm is not our friend.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:58 PM
Monday

They are compromised for Trump,
along with many other outlets and
corporations.

Remember: the only friends we have are us,
and maybe a few bold Dems in office.

I've said this for years, only people power will
change anything for the better!

Bengus81

(7,813 posts)
49. I want to know how Eloon and his little helpers can run people/employee's
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:14 PM
Monday

out of a Government building when they have zero authority? Doge is nothing but a stupid ass name. There just a bunch of idiots led by a bigger rich idiots. They should can the damn cops and demand to be let back in.

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Seinan Sensei

(819 posts)
54. This whole story is beyond bizarre
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:22 PM
Monday

I went to Snopes.com to make sure the info I was getting was valid.
Guess what?
Not a thing.
Not even crickets.

jalan48

(14,648 posts)
57. Viktor Orbn's Authoritarian Playbook- Scapegoat minorities. Undermine the judiciary. Control the media
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:36 PM
Monday

Control the media
The final ingredient of Orbán’s autocracy is control and manipulation of the news media.
One of the first things Orbán did after coming to power in 2010 was smother the voices of critics.
A new media law ordered outlets to register with a media control body, whose members were appointed by parliament. The panel can impose fines of up to €1 million for “imbalanced news coverage”Earlier this year, the editor of one of Hungary’s few remaining independent news websites, Index, was fired after an Orbán ally acquired a 50-percent stake in the company. (2020)
https://atlanticsentinel.com/2020/10/viktor-orbans-authoritarian-playbook/

Orban has met privately with both Trump and other Republicans.

"During a speech this summer in front of thousands of supporters, Hungary's far-right prime minister, Viktor Orbán, detailed the close connections he has nurtured with former President Donald Trump.

"We have entered the policy-writing system of President Donald Trump's team," Orbán said. "We have deep involvement there."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viktor-orban-mission-to-elect-trump/

Meowmee

(6,868 posts)
61. I turned on cnn and there was a brief video of some demonstrations I think?
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:07 PM
Monday

I do not have the sound on and will be switching soon.

Hekate

(95,984 posts)
71. So, how did it go when you watched Nicolle Wallace and Rachel Maddow?
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:19 PM
Monday

Did you still feel there was no coverage and no honesty to be had?

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
86. Of course not
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:20 PM
Tuesday

I was referring to the situation at the time and the coverage by Tur and Jansing. Many hours later, Lawrence absolutely killed it and I saw a little of Maddow. My post accurately reflected what I saw at the time and I stand by it. Appalling both journalistically and morally.

Hekate

(95,984 posts)
90. Your condemnation was of the entire industry and all the people therein. Can't help you if you won't actually look.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:11 PM
Tuesday

There’s a coterie here who hates Katy Tur, but I just watched her fact-check trump’s so-called press conference. She’s not on my watch-list because there’s only so many hours in the day — but even with the sound off, there she was using lines like “trump baselessly claimed USAID is run by lunatics”

Welp, heading back to the kitchen where the tv machine is playing Nicolle Wallace who gasp horror was raised as a Republican but saw the light and is about the best conductor of a panel of intelligent professionals I’ve ever seen.

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
91. My condemnation, as you put it, was of MSNBC's hosts on the air at the time.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:16 PM
Tuesday

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CNN, and yes, the corporate media. It seems to have made you angry, but I don't retract a word of it. I will state again that my OP was specifically of what was being aired at the time, as the Dems were protesting. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what I wrote, but you are free to think otherwise.

gab13by13

(26,237 posts)
76. They did not gain entrance to the building,
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 08:19 AM
Tuesday

They should have brought Musk along with them, he would have gotten them inside.

GoreWon2000

(1,188 posts)
79. MSNBC Prime time shows extensively covered
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:23 PM
Tuesday

Dems at USAID as well as Elon Musk gaining illegal access to everyone's financial information at the Treasury dept. Even NBC "Nightly News' had a pretty solid piece about it as well.

senseandsensibility

(20,760 posts)
85. My OP was not posted during prime time
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:14 PM
Tuesday

It was posted during the day as the Dems were protesting in real time. The MSNBC daytime "news" barely covered it (and that's being generous) while they let trump drone on unchecked for hours. Many hours after I posted this, the primetime shows covered it. My post reflected the situation at the time and there is no excuse for the coverage I saw.

Jit423

(822 posts)
83. It seem counter intuitive to me to complain about condoms going to Gaza. Cheaper for us to pay for that then continued
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:30 PM
Tuesday

weapons to Israel to kill the born people there. Isn't birth control cheaper than supporting genocide?

JohnSJ

(97,279 posts)
103. It is called censoring the Democratic message. They did it the other day when Democratic representativse stood before
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Tuesday

the USAID building surrounded by a crowd of people exposing the dangerous situation going on.

The MSM is carrying the water for trump and the rethugs. They have been doing this for some time now, but this time they can't even bluff or pretend that they are objective.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,156 posts)
107. I guess that explains why I keep hearing/reading on "the internet" how Democrats are lazy *
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 06:55 PM
Tuesday

* and scared and cowardly and incompetent and complicit. Not because it's TRUE... but because those who complain so loudly and so viciously... are clueless as to what's really going on... because they rely on legacy media for their information. Their "reality" is based solely on what the "networks" and "cable news" shares with them.

How sad. Sad for them. Sad for us all.

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