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New Haven

(1,083 posts)
11. NASA SCUBA SNAFU SWAT DARE UPS SIM ( I like to watch my language so I won't say WTF or AFU
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:37 PM
Monday

I've often thought how much fun we could have by only speaking in acronyms. It doesn't have to make sense, clarity is not important. I would be looking for speed and character count. My wife usually sends me out of the room when I begin to talk this way. My apologies to all here I couldn't stop myself.

Wiz Imp

(3,427 posts)
5. The one TRO was issued on Friday after the first Judge blocked the freeze on Tuesday
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:02 PM
Monday
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/31/nx-s1-5282410/trump-spending-freeze-blocked-federal-judge

A 2nd U.S. judge says Trump administration must pause its federal spending freeze (This was Judge McConnell)

A judge with the U.S. District Court for the District of Rhode Island has issued a temporary restraining order blocking the Trump administration's efforts to freeze payments for grants and other programs.


From X at 12:17 today

Judge Loren AliKhan in D.C. fed court sounds poised to issue a TRO blocking a federal funding freeze, as nonprofits have asked. USDOJ suggests this is effectively a PI hearing. Urges AliKhan to go ahead and issue one, if she's inclined, and stay it so the government can appeal.

JMCKUSICK

(843 posts)
6. The last sentence, in other words,
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:29 PM
Monday

Was go ahead, stop us, but then issue a stay so we can continue on. The absurdity is astonishing.

Wiz Imp

(3,427 posts)
8. Yeah. It appears some agencies are still ignoring the TRO but the majority are complying.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:06 PM
Monday
https://natlawreview.com/article/federal-grant-funding-thaw-freeze

Federal Grant Funding: A Thaw in the Freeze?

Normalcy? Returns– Thursday evening into Friday morning, Medicaid agencies reported irregularities in accessing funding portals and drawing down federal funds. We have heard from providers that access to their 330 PHS grant funds has been restored. At the same time, we have reports that some agencies (such as the National Science Foundation) are still reviewing grant programs for compliance with the Trump Administration’s Executive Orders. For now, however, the status quo for grant funding seems largely to have been preserved.

The Legal Battle Continues – A coalition of Democratic Attorneys General filed a lawsuit in Rhode Island earlier this week to oppose the OMB Memo and associated funding freeze.1 The judge in that case held a hearing to determine whether the legal challenge was moot, given the rescission of the OMB Memo. Citing communication from the press secretary, Judge McConnell indicated a willingness to still enter some kind of protective order related to the actions underlying the OMB Memo, even if the OMB Memo itself had been rescinded. Late afternoon on January 31, Judge McConnell issued a temporary restraining order in this case, which will last through a hearing and decision on the states’ motion for a preliminary injunction.2 On the morning of February 3, the DOJ responded with a notice of compliance outlining the Administration’s response to the TRO.

What Now? – Whatever the final legal outcome from the Rhode Island case, it seems clear that the Executive Branch is intent on reviewing federal grant programs for compliance with its policy directives. We know, based on OMB’s rescinded Memo, the initial list of programs on the Administration’s radar. Subject to any final disposition in the AG suit, we expect additional action in the coming weeks and months with respect to these programs, and providers should be aware of the potential impact on their organizations up to and including the inability to access funds previously appropriated and awarded.


They are absolutely entitled to review grant programs as detailed in the highlighted passage. What they aren't entitled to do is stop that funding that has already been appropriated during that review. Courts have already reviewed this issue multiple times in the past and always decided against the current position held by the Trump administration.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,088 posts)
7. Given how many executive orders Trump has already issued,
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:57 PM
Monday

I doubt that one restraining order will make any difference. Unless somehow one order freezes every single order made so far. Which I doubt.

Wiz Imp

(3,427 posts)
9. It appears most agencies are now complying with the TRO. Whether that continues remains to be seen.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:12 PM
Monday

Courts have ruled against the administration's position numerous times in the past so they really shouldn't have a leg to stand on. I expect the courts to rule that way again. We'll see how the Trump administration reacts to that if/when that happens.

louis-t

(23,947 posts)
10. Stand up to him and he backs off.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:26 PM
Monday

That is my message every, all day. He's suing media companies who 'weren't nice to him.' ABC caved. Shame on them. CBS might cave. Shame on them. Stop settling with him. I wrote to Disney and told them I'm disgusted. I will write to CBS and ask them to not settle.

Baron2024

(1,025 posts)
12. These Are Not Official Acts
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:48 PM
Monday

I am glad that the Judge issued a TRO. The trick will be enforcing it. The Trump Regime does not have the legal authority to do these things, but they may have the power to do so. I think that it is important to note that these are not official acts by the Trump Musk Regime. The power and authority of the Presidency derives from the Constitution. Any act that violates the law and the Constitution is outside of the normal powers of the President and his agents.

So I do not believe that the broad Supreme Court ruling on the expansive powers of the President is valid. That ruling needs to be revisited and challenged. It might not happen in the near future, given the conservative control of the SCOTUS, but I think that we should try and challenge this doctrine however we can and whenever we can. No illegal or unconstitutional act can be considered an official act. No President should be above the law, and neither should his agents in the Executive branch.

Wiz Imp

(3,427 posts)
13. Second Judge issued TRO today
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 06:57 PM
Monday
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/nonprofits-sue-trump-administration-over-federal-grants-freeze/

Another Judge Halts Trump’s Federal Funding Freeze

In her order granting a TRO, District Judge Loren Alikhan wrote that the arguments and evidence submitted by the plaintiffs “paint a stark picture of nationwide panic in the wake of the funding freeze. Organizations with every conceivable mission — healthcare, scientific research, emergency shelters, and more — were shut out of funding portals or denied critical resources beginning on January 28.”

DENVERPOPS

(10,649 posts)
15. It's just too damn bad
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:00 PM
Tuesday

That the United States Supreme Court is a wholly owned Corporate Subsidiary of the New Republican Party.......

And anyone who thinks that "States Rights" matter, to the USSC, please review the "Florida States Rights" in 2000 and what happened with the Presidential Election.........

We should just start calling the United State of America, THE UNITED CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA

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