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BREAKING: A federal judge has determined that the Trump administration is violating his order lifting the blanket spending freeze on federal grant programs.
He is orderin gthe administration to immediately unfreeze funds, including for NIH and the IRA. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

February 10, 2025 at 12:31 PM
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Sanity Claws
(22,184 posts)dalton99a
(88,308 posts)mobeau69
(11,940 posts)littlemissmartypants
(27,309 posts)thesquanderer
(12,579 posts)if it wasn't a Republican House. And even we somehow got past that, to remove, you'd need 2/3 of the (majority Republican) Senate.
But it would be nice to even hear him referred to as thrice-impeached.
surfered
(6,347 posts)If not, we are in uncharted and very dangerous territory.
mobeau69
(11,940 posts)dchill
(42,139 posts)drmeow
(5,555 posts)and pulling money out of Musks accounts or freezing his assets if they don't comply and Federal Marshalls don't act?
ananda
(31,552 posts)I like that idea.
mobeau69
(11,940 posts)UTUSN
(73,948 posts)flashman13
(1,162 posts)This is now officially a coup by every definition of the word.
Good night and Good Luck.
FoggyLake
(239 posts)So far there is no one to constrain them from doing whatever they want.
Quanto Magnus
(1,111 posts)And Schumer will write a sternly worded letter....
Collins will get the vapors....
Trump will crap his pants some more and the Nazi's will rejoice...
moonshinegnomie
(3,316 posts)the judge should start sending bailiffs to haul every person vioalting the order into court. the orange fascist might be immune but i doubt that his cronies like the idea of spending time locked up. start with the treasury secretary and teh OMB head.
lock them up for civil contempt. there is no pardon ability for it. and the judge can keep them locked up until they comply
angrychair
(10,557 posts)How it works is the judge would send an order to the US Marshals Service to arrest the person but since the Marshals work for DOJ, the AG can just order them to ignore the judge. If they follow that I don't know but I assume that is how that would go down.
It's a serious constitutional crisis.
FB47243
(58 posts)Actually, the president can pardon someone for civil contempt charges, but there are limits.
The U.S. Constitution grants the president broad pardon powers for federal offenses (Article II, Section 2). Civil contempt can sometimes be considered a federal offense, especially if its linked to a federal court order. However, if the contempt charge is coercive (meant to force compliance, like refusing to testify), a pardon might not immediately free the personcourts could reframe the punishment to continue enforcing compliance.
In contrast, state-level civil contempt is outside the presidents pardon power. Governors handle pardons for state cases.
So, while there are nuances, the president does have the ability to pardon civil contempt in many cases, particularly at the federal level.
JCMach1
(28,621 posts)Dennis Donovan
(30,524 posts)U.S. District Judge John J. McConnell said the government has not restored funding in several programs despite his Jan. 31 order temporarily halting the freeze.
Feb. 10, 2025, 2:05 PM EST
By Chloe Atkins, Fallon Gallagher and Dareh Gregorian
A federal judge in Rhode Island Monday said that the Trump administration violated his order halting a sweeping federal funding freeze and ordered the government to immediately restore frozen funding.
U.S. District Judge John J. McConnell handed down the order after the plaintiffs in the case, a coalition of 22 states, said the government had not restored funding in several programs despite his Jan. 31 order temporarily halting the wide-ranging Office of Management and Budget directive that had caused chaos and confusion across the country.
The States have presented evidence in this motion that the Defendants in some cases have continued to improperly freeze federal funds and refused to resume disbursement of appropriated federal funds, McConnell wrote, even though his order lifting the freeze had been "clear and unambiguous."
Justice Department lawyers argued in a court filing that they didn't believe the order covered some of the frozen funding, and that some of the funding at issue is under review to make sure it's "appropriate.
"The Defendants now plea that they are just trying to root out fraud. But the freezes in effect now were a result of the broad categorical order, not a specific finding of possible fraud," McConnell wrote. "The broad categorical and sweeping freeze of federal funds is, as the Court found, likely unconstitutional and has caused and continues to cause irreparable harm to a vast portion of this country."
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orangecrush
(24,327 posts)Then what?
mahatmakanejeeves
(64,456 posts)spanone
(138,845 posts)thesquanderer
(12,579 posts)Tickle
(4,044 posts)Gets to supreme court
returnee
(525 posts)In order to stop the flow of already allocated funds, dont they have to go through the Treasury Dept. to do it? Does this mean that Bessent or Musk et al or both are actually stopping the funds this way?
Pardon my ignorance on this.