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demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:52 AM Mar 26

The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials.

Ryan Goodman
‪@rgoodlaw.bsky.social‬

The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials.

I worked at the Pentagon.

If information like this is not classified, nothing is.

If Hegseth is claiming he declassified this information, he should be shown the door for having done so.


March 26, 2025 at 8:46 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3llbsx5c5as2u


Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal

So, about that Signal chat.

On Monday, shortly after we published a story about a massive Trump-administration security breach, a reporter asked the secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, why he had shared plans about a forthcoming attack on Yemen on the Signal messaging app. He answered, “Nobody was texting war plans. And that’s all I have to say about that.”

At a Senate hearing yesterday, the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Ratcliffe, were both asked about the Signal chat, to which Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of The Atlantic, was inadvertently invited by National Security Adviser Michael Waltz. “There was no classified material that was shared in that Signal group,” Gabbard told members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Ratcliffe said much the same: “My communications, to be clear, in the Signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.”

President Donald Trump, asked yesterday afternoon about the same matter, said, “It wasn’t classified information.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/


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The Atlantic has now published the Signal texts with attack plans in response to administration denials. (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 26 OP
Oh snap................. Lovie777 Mar 26 #1
I know, right!? demmiblue Mar 26 #2
splat... catsup hits the wall - ha ha ha... SheltieLover Mar 26 #3
I'm predicting this will be the most popular thread of the day... SheltieLover Mar 26 #4
They're like little children in their complete inability to give up a lie when caught flatfooted ... marble falls Mar 26 #5
If Only There Were a Disciplinarian We Could Insist They Visit! The Roux Comes First Mar 26 #86
The coverup up gets them every time C_U_L8R Mar 26 #6
Exactly. I they had stuck with "Mistakes were made" it would have blown over. John1956PA Mar 26 #13
And today, these same clowns go before the House C_U_L8R Mar 26 #14
And have Putin slice/dice them? stollen Mar 26 #83
Of course they will. pat_k Mar 26 #85
Rep Warren Davidsen says RoeVWade Mar 26 #7
OH MY GOD!!! After reading the thread it is sooo much Phoenix61 Mar 26 #8
So Bondi lied to congress as did Waltz.... spanone Mar 26 #9
"THE PRESIDENT LIED TOO" orleans Mar 26 #45
I didn't see what she said yet....but if it is out of her mouth... Teacher of the Year Mar 26 #75
All liars newdeal2 Mar 26 #10
We'll have to wait til NEXT November (2026, that is) for Dems to take the majority. calimary Mar 26 #81
The Atlantic show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal: demmiblue Mar 26 #11
They will now be prosecuted for releasing classified information. Oneironaut Mar 26 #12
who will prosecute them? The FBI Trump OWNS? Captain Zero Mar 26 #18
I believe the poster is talking about prosecuting The Atlantic/Goldberg. n/t demmiblue Mar 26 #19
Yup! Sorry for the confusion! Oneironaut Mar 26 #20
But but they said it wasn't classified kerouac2 Mar 26 #36
Yup. sheshe2 Mar 26 #60
Not gonna happen. The head of FBI and DOJ?? Kash Patel and Pam Bondi?? tulipsandroses Mar 26 #39
trump will pardon them LuvLoogie Mar 26 #56
He gave a 2 to 2 1/2 hour heads up about incoming warplanes and targets Prairie Gates Mar 26 #15
That is the point Pete Buttigieg was so pissed off about: It put US military personnel at risk unnecessarily. Attilatheblond Mar 26 #54
You know, BonnieJW Mar 26 #72
Oh, just like their dear leader bringning them fame and fortunes... Justice matters. Mar 27 #93
Yea, nothing classified there, not an attack plan...no war plans. Passages Mar 26 #16
OMG... lol: Pete Hegseth was worried his war plans would leak while on a Signal group chat with a reporter demmiblue Mar 26 #17
"Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct." demmiblue Mar 26 #21
Tulsi Gabbord is either really Blue_Roses Mar 26 #29
She's all-in on slurping up the Kool-Aid. nt Wednesdays Mar 26 #41
Both are possible at the same time IronLionZion Mar 26 #48
Gabbard is a Russian plant. yardwork Mar 26 #62
She's a Russian spy. It's common knowledge. OMGWTF Mar 26 #69
How many Russian assets are there in the WH?? Asking for a friend vapor2 Mar 26 #91
Two things can be true about Gabbard. MontanaMama Mar 26 #74
Grab some.... Martin Eden Mar 26 #22
But Hillary's emails!!! Gimpyknee Mar 26 #23
Were the lying liars really banking on the editor not releasing the full transcript? NH Ethylene Mar 26 #24
everyone that testified yesterday should be jailed for lying to congress moonshinegnomie Mar 26 #25
And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it. Autumn Mar 26 #26
This. mcar Mar 26 #53
And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it. Autumn Mar 26 #27
Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn't a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade... demmiblue Mar 26 #28
Signalgate NameAlreadyTaken Mar 26 #30
And extra stupid copying and pasting the info IbogaProject Mar 26 #31
K & R malaise Mar 26 #32
The entire national security team has been exposed as liars and traitors Mysterian Mar 26 #33
Liars and bumbling, foolish, silly and naive ameteurs. OVER THEIR HEADS. Maru Kitteh Mar 26 #73
They're now in the FO phase of FAFO. nt Wednesdays Mar 26 #34
Archive link UpInArms Mar 26 #35
Thank you. writerJT Mar 26 #61
Thanks for sharing that link! slightlv Mar 26 #87
Then ... UpInArms Mar 26 #89
Thanks from me too!! vapor2 Mar 26 #92
And the only thing we hear from POTUS is he mad at Waltz... sarchasm Mar 26 #37
If some large heads (TG, PH) don't roll for this then I'm afraid we, the USofA, are truly done. sarchasm Mar 26 #42
This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were "attack plans" not "war plans"? demmiblue Mar 26 #38
Could this be the Watergate for this regime liberal N proud Mar 26 #40
Signalgate. usonian Mar 26 #47
WTF. The incompetence in this administration is appalling. iluvtennis Mar 26 #43
That was not classified. usonian Mar 26 #44
Careless risky stupid assholes gonna get people killed. suegeo Mar 26 #46
Sniffing glue,more likely BattleRow Mar 26 #50
I love JD Vance's concerns that Europe might benefit more than the US IronLionZion Mar 26 #49
Why does Hog's Breath still have a job? Botany Mar 26 #51
What did they think Goldberg would do? mcar Mar 26 #52
These is no reason for Dems or anyone Deminpenn Mar 26 #55
I think they'll sue kkmarie Mar 26 #68
the fact is Skittles Mar 26 #90
Just subcribed to it. WinstonSmith4740 Mar 26 #57
Response to threats against the Atlantic orangecrush Mar 26 #58
They testified under oath before Congress AdamGG Mar 26 #59
Arrogant, stupid, ego driven fools are not good choices for cabinet posts. patphil Mar 26 #63
SMH. In a sane country...oh, never mind. Solly Mack Mar 26 #64
"It wasn't classified information." dchill Mar 26 #65
Unfuckingbelievable Happy Hoosier Mar 26 #66
In A Few Days, Houthi-Gate Will Have Never Happened FrankTC Mar 26 #67
Good 3auld6phart Mar 26 #70
She is responding the way everyone should - Lokee11 Mar 26 #71
DoD policy makes all of that at least "Secret". James48 Mar 26 #76
And after this was published they are STILL LYING TO CONGRESS AND AMERICA spanone Mar 26 #77
Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump's Advisers Shared on Signal LetMyPeopleVote Mar 26 #78
Good for the Atlantic. Reminds me of the Pentagon Papers. If the Orange Felon wants to blame a journalist for his Martin68 Mar 26 #79
KnRnBkmrk Hekate Mar 26 #80
They should have done it right away Meowmee Mar 26 #82
Trump said no apology was necessary because they were doing their best. Shermann Mar 26 #84
Another poster her, quoting soldierant Mar 26 #88

SheltieLover

(66,687 posts)
3. splat... catsup hits the wall - ha ha ha...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:56 AM
Mar 26

This is why Dems surround themselves with the most brilliant in their fields of endeavor, slobby, not the biggest ass kissers on the planet.

marble falls

(64,796 posts)
5. They're like little children in their complete inability to give up a lie when caught flatfooted ...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:57 AM
Mar 26

... all we have to do is stand up and say NO.

The Roux Comes First

(1,673 posts)
86. If Only There Were a Disciplinarian We Could Insist They Visit!
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 26

A vice-principal, or, or, a Supreme Court. Oh, wait a mo.

John1956PA

(3,951 posts)
13. Exactly. I they had stuck with "Mistakes were made" it would have blown over.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:07 AM
Mar 26

But no. They just had to attack Goldberg. They must have thought it would be cute to fashion him into an "enemy of the people" persona a la Goldstein in 1984.

C_U_L8R

(47,132 posts)
14. And today, these same clowns go before the House
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:11 AM
Mar 26

Do they stick with their lies? Do they create new lies? Do they attack the reporter? Do they run and hide?

Somehow the least expected thing is that they might actually tell the truth. That says a lot.

pat_k

(11,155 posts)
85. Of course they will.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 05:52 PM
Mar 26

The entire 47 regime follows the Roy Cohn playbook.

(link)

. . .
. . Cohn imparted an M.O. that’s been on searing display throughout Trump’s ascent, his divisive, captivating campaign, and his fraught, unprecedented presidency. Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.
. . .


Regime: The texts are fake.

So prove that by releasing this supposedly unclassified exchange.

Regime: No, national security.

If it is a matter of national security, doesn't that mean the exchange revealed classified information?

Regime: No. The texts released are fake.

So show us the exchange.

Regime: No. National security. Goldberg is being arrested for hacking into the chat. It's a socialist conspiracy to undermine the great government we're building.

And round and round they go.

RoeVWade

(458 posts)
7. Rep Warren Davidsen says
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:59 AM
Mar 26

paraphrasing -- that it might be good to scare the terrorists by releasing this in real time. So no problem

wtf???

I mean the plans note the exact time the attack is occurring.

(Republicans making it worse trying to come up with explanations.)



Phoenix61

(18,276 posts)
8. OH MY GOD!!! After reading the thread it is sooo much
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:02 AM
Mar 26

worse than I thought. Discussing strategy about when to bomb and how to manage publicity isn’t classified??? WTAF!!!

spanone

(138,801 posts)
9. So Bondi lied to congress as did Waltz....
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:03 AM
Mar 26

fucking liars one and all...THE PRESIDENT LIED TOO.

75. I didn't see what she said yet....but if it is out of her mouth...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:52 PM
Mar 26

there is a good chance it was a lie.

newdeal2

(2,331 posts)
10. All liars
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:04 AM
Mar 26

Now the question is will House and Senate Republicans speak up after being lied to a few hours ago. Don’t get your hopes up.

calimary

(85,936 posts)
81. We'll have to wait til NEXT November (2026, that is) for Dems to take the majority.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 03:52 PM
Mar 26

No reason to expect ANYTHING truthful til then. Repubs have to protect the house of cards they built so carefully. A house of cards is easily knocked over. They know how delicate and vulnerable it is. That’s why they’re doing everything/anything they can think of, to protect it.

demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
11. The Atlantic show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal:
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:05 AM
Mar 26
Ryan Goodman
‪@rgoodlaw.bsky.social‬

3/ Plus you knew this was coming.

The Atlantic (@jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social and @shaneharris.bsky.social) show the screen shot of journalist Jeff Goldberg's Signal:

"Michael Waltz added you to the group."

Whoever advised Waltz and others to deny that should be demoted.

March 26, 2025 at 8:58 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3llbtlwzhck22


Oneironaut

(5,961 posts)
12. They will now be prosecuted for releasing classified information.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:07 AM
Mar 26

Probably. They’re not afraid to show that the facade is all bullshit, especially if the goal is to be vindictive

Captain Zero

(7,824 posts)
18. who will prosecute them? The FBI Trump OWNS?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:23 AM
Mar 26

I doubt it.
If the Republican Congress had any balls they would impeach/convict Trump.
And order JD Vance to form a new cabinet of competent professionals.

Except Vance was IN ON THE CHAT, himself.

I really don't want to say we are fucked, but?

tulipsandroses

(7,186 posts)
39. Not gonna happen. The head of FBI and DOJ?? Kash Patel and Pam Bondi??
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 AM
Mar 26

We need to take back the house and haul their asses in for congressional hearings. Get them for lying under oath.
The statute of limitations for lying to congress is 5 years. They can be prosecuted for their crimes when Dems reclaim the WH and put people in charge that actually care about law and order.

Prairie Gates

(4,891 posts)
15. He gave a 2 to 2 1/2 hour heads up about incoming warplanes and targets
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:20 AM
Mar 26

It's actually a miracle they didn't shoot either of these strike packages down. They were put in supreme danger. Houthis are not keeping downed pilots as prisoners or exchanging them for tariff relief. They put them in cages and burn them alive.

Attilatheblond

(5,668 posts)
54. That is the point Pete Buttigieg was so pissed off about: It put US military personnel at risk unnecessarily.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:45 AM
Mar 26

Whiskey DOD has to go, along with the other administration idiots on that chat. Trials and possible prison.

Reality Winner released one piece of paper, not timing of actual battle plans ahead of an attack. She got 5 years. These fools need a whole lot more.

One can imagine there have been other chats on vulnerable sites. These idiots are breaking laws & don't want the required paper trail of their activities.

BonnieJW

(2,866 posts)
72. You know,
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:42 AM
Mar 26

You mentioning whiskey made me realize the reason petey wants to text instead of meeting in person in a SCIF is so he can drink.

Justice matters.

(8,292 posts)
93. Oh, just like their dear leader bringning them fame and fortunes...
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:17 AM
Mar 27

You think they care about his "suckers and losers" more than he does?

They all went to party at his $1-Million-a-cover "fundraiser" at Merde-a-Largo after the attack killed innocent children.

demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
21. "Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct."
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:46 AM
Mar 26
Kyle Griffin
‪@kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

In the Senate worldwide threats hearing just yesterday, Sen. Martin Heinrich asked: "Precise operational issues were not part of this conversation?" Tulsi Gabbard replied: "Correct."

Pete Hegseth shared launch times in the Signal war plans chat.


March 26, 2025 at 9:40 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3llbvygvuys26


Blue_Roses

(13,731 posts)
29. Tulsi Gabbord is either really
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:06 AM
Mar 26

stupid or a plant somehow. She is so wishy-washy half the time.

NH Ethylene

(31,102 posts)
24. Were the lying liars really banking on the editor not releasing the full transcript?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:56 AM
Mar 26

Once they all asserted there was nothing classified about the conversation, there was no reason to hold back.

Autumn

(47,719 posts)
26. And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
Mar 26

This man is an American hero.

Autumn

(47,719 posts)
27. And he didn't wait two or three years to write a book and do a book tour about it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
Mar 26

This man is an American hero.

demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
28. Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn't a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:04 AM
Mar 26
Julian Sanchez
‪@normative.bsky.social‬

Confirming, as was obvious from context already, that this wasn’t a one-off. They are routinely using Signal to evade statutory record retention requirements.

March 26, 2025 at 9:22 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/normative.bsky.social/post/3llbuxpg37k27


IbogaProject

(4,279 posts)
31. And extra stupid copying and pasting the info
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:07 AM
Mar 26

All that group needed was enough vague details to discuss the geopolitcs and post mission PR. And now they are both denying and trying to shift blame on the reporter. Hegseth says he declassified it so I'm guessing they can't walk that claim back to charge the Editor.

Mysterian

(5,539 posts)
33. The entire national security team has been exposed as liars and traitors
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:09 AM
Mar 26

who follow the fascist playbook of Project 2025 to overthrow democracy in the USA.

Maru Kitteh

(30,081 posts)
73. Liars and bumbling, foolish, silly and naive ameteurs. OVER THEIR HEADS.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:49 AM
Mar 26

Way, WAY, over their heads.

slightlv

(5,402 posts)
87. Thanks for sharing that link!
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:31 PM
Mar 26

I found it extremely interesting and upsetting. Two things that haven't been mentioned (at least that I've seen talked about) is trump and Hegswart swearing they'll make Europe repay all the cost of this little adventure. Yeah... like Mexico is paying for the Wall?

2) Waltz congratulated the group in MAL (Mar a Lago!) for a great job, too. Okay... so now we are running all government and military operations out of MAL? WTF!

sarchasm

(1,259 posts)
42. If some large heads (TG, PH) don't roll for this then I'm afraid we, the USofA, are truly done.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:21 AM
Mar 26

demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
38. This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were "attack plans" not "war plans"?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 AM
Mar 26
Ron Filipkowski
‪@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social‬

This is REALLY the lame-ass defense they are going with? They were “attack plans” not “war plans”?

March 26, 2025 at 10:01 AM

https://bsky.app/profile/ronfilipkowski.bsky.social/post/3llbx5eaohc2s




usonian

(17,205 posts)
44. That was not classified.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:27 AM
Mar 26

And this is not a Ming Dynasty vase.




It's plastic.

Nothing to see here.

But seriously folks, if Trump could give away classified documents like after-dinner mints, do you expect these boneheads to get anything but a medal of freedom?

They're all insured by the "John Roberts and Associates" insurance company.


suegeo

(2,991 posts)
46. Careless risky stupid assholes gonna get people killed.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:29 AM
Mar 26

Do they know their job is to protect American lives and the lives of our allies (who they have alienated) ?

Do they know it is dangerous to run with scissors? It's dangerous to give their toddlers sharp knives?

Do they eat glue?

IronLionZion

(48,542 posts)
49. I love JD Vance's concerns that Europe might benefit more than the US
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:34 AM
Mar 26


Without any thought whatsoever to Israel or anyone else using those shipping routes

mcar

(44,465 posts)
52. What did they think Goldberg would do?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:38 AM
Mar 26

They are so arrogant in their MAGA bubble that they really thought lying to Congress and insulting Goldberg would work?

Deminpenn

(16,741 posts)
55. These is no reason for Dems or anyone
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:50 AM
Mar 26

else to be scared of these incompetent, stupid and arrogant boobs.

kkmarie

(126 posts)
68. I think they'll sue
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 AM
Mar 26

I think the Krasnov regime will sue for a gazillion dollars and continue to call Goldberg a hoax spreader. Of course they'll continue to deny this, using a multitude of variations on what happened or didn't happen.

I know it's very clear that everyone denied anything in the chat was classified but it would not be unusual for Krasnov to now say it was classified and arrest Goldberg.

Maga media will then only broadcast what Krasnov is saying and sanewash it. The magas 100% believe what Krasnov says.

Skittles

(163,532 posts)
90. the fact is
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:29 PM
Mar 26

these corrupt assholes think what works with their idiot base will work on people with critical thinking skills

that is some fucked-up shyte right there

WinstonSmith4740

(3,278 posts)
57. Just subcribed to it.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:52 AM
Mar 26

I'm so glad they published this...at least the editors are standing up to him. Unfortunately, as his cultists have proven over and over...they do not care if he lies. To them, the ends justify the means.

Going to be interesting and to see how he tries to shut it down.

orangecrush

(24,268 posts)
58. Response to threats against the Atlantic
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:54 AM
Mar 26

My guess.

Good.

The clown car is going to go through some things.

AdamGG

(1,674 posts)
59. They testified under oath before Congress
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:00 AM
Mar 26

That nothing classified was shared in these texts - so congratulations, they green lighted its release.

The real investigation should be into how many other high level government meetings have been held through private apps in the last 2 months.

patphil

(7,701 posts)
63. Arrogant, stupid, ego driven fools are not good choices for cabinet posts.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 AM
Mar 26

These are Trump's "best people". I'd hate to see his worst people, but then maybe what he considers the worst are actually the best.
We're barely 9 weeks in, and the damage his people have done could take years to fix. I don't want to imagine what the state of the nation will be in 4 years, assuming the nation survives that long.
Not only are these dildo's wrecking the nation, they're threatening the stability and safety of the world.
Trump's actions make this world less safe each day he's in office.

Note: a dildo is a mindless fucker.

FrankTC

(240 posts)
67. In A Few Days, Houthi-Gate Will Have Never Happened
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 AM
Mar 26

It will be memory-holed, or be transformed into something like, "Remember that time when the libs attacked our very fine national security team and tried to make them look bad? Remember how they attacked us just as we were defending ourselves against terrorists?" Nothing will come of this.

3auld6phart

(1,503 posts)
70. Good
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:36 AM
Mar 26

Call out those incompetent bastards. Especially whisky Pete Hogsbrath.dip shi treasonous asshole..

James48

(4,804 posts)
76. DoD policy makes all of that at least "Secret".
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:26 PM
Mar 26

It’s in the DoD policy guide on classification.

spanone

(138,801 posts)
77. And after this was published they are STILL LYING TO CONGRESS AND AMERICA
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:32 PM
Mar 26

FUCKING TRAITORS

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,832 posts)
78. Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump's Advisers Shared on Signal
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:34 PM
Mar 26

Here is a link to the article that is not behind paywall
https://bsky.app/profile/anneapplebaum.bsky.social/post/3llbvatu2c22r



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK3_X2K7ulsnjDWC1R1jDQds4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Yesterday, we asked officials across the Trump administration if they objected to us publishing the full texts. In emails to the Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the National Security Council, the Department of Defense, and the White House, we wrote, in part: “In light of statements today from multiple administration officials, including before the Senate Intelligence Committee, that the information in the Signal chain about the Houthi strike is not classified, and that it does not contain ‘war plans,’ The Atlantic is considering publishing the entirety of the Signal chain.”

We sent our first request for comment and feedback to national-security officials shortly after noon, and followed up in the evening after most failed to answer.

Late yesterday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt emailed a response: “As we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat. However, as the CIA Director and National Security Advisor have both expressed today, that does not mean we encourage the release of the conversation. This was intended to be a an [sic] internal and private deliberation amongst high-level senior staff and sensitive information was discussed. So for those reason [sic] — yes, we object to the release.” (The Leavitt statement did not address which elements of the texts the White House considered sensitive, or how, more than a week after the initial air strikes, their publication could have bearing on national security.)

A CIA spokesperson asked us to withhold the name of John Ratcliffe’s chief of staff, which Ratcliffe had shared in the Signal chain, because CIA intelligence officers are traditionally not publicly identified. Ratcliffe had testified earlier yesterday that the officer is not undercover and said it was “completely appropriate” to share their name in the Signal conversation. We will continue to withhold the name of the officer. Otherwise, the messages are unredacted.

Martin68

(25,498 posts)
79. Good for the Atlantic. Reminds me of the Pentagon Papers. If the Orange Felon wants to blame a journalist for his
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 02:18 PM
Mar 26

administration's criminal incompetence and negligence, then hang it all out there.

Shermann

(8,914 posts)
84. Trump said no apology was necessary because they were doing their best.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 05:50 PM
Mar 26

So, is that how that works in real life? If I do a job in an incompetent way and put people at risk, I don't have to apologize as long as I was doing my best?

Maybe in BIZARRO WORLD!

soldierant

(8,392 posts)
88. Another poster her, quoting
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:38 PM
Mar 26

a sibling who is a Naval Academy graduate, says that technically these plans are "strike plans" and that a "war plan" is something different.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220179423

And that's how the participants think they can get away with saying no war plans were discussed.

He also says that the whole thing is total BS. We can prubably all agree on that.

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