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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBillionaires Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk Call To Eliminate Intellectual Property Rights for Creators
On Friday, the cofounder of X (then Twitter) and Block (then Square) posted on X, "delete all IP law." Elon Musk, the current leader of X, chimed in to comment, "I agree."
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Dorsey, Musk, and Altman's words underscore a common belief amongst tech entrepreneurs that copyright laws need to evolve to account for the potential of generative AI. Already, both OpenAI and Google have openly lobbied the U.S. government to allow AI models to train on protected works such as movies, articles, and music. They want such use to fall under the fair use legal doctrine, with OpenAI calling it a matter of "national security."
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"Intellectual property law is rooted in the U.S. Constitution as a tool to promote creativity, not suppress it. It ensures that those who contribute to cultural and scientific progress are recognized, protected, and compensated," said Atreya Mathur, director of Legal Research at the Center for Art Law, in an email to Mashable. "Elimination of such laws would ignore that very purpose and devalue the labor and rights of creators, including those whose work powers these technologies."
More here: https://mashable.com/article/jack-dorsey-elon-musk-ip-laws-artists-react
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Billionaires are parasites, feeding off of the work of others and undermining our Democracy with their obscene wealth.
Tax them out of existence!

John1956PA
(3,970 posts)AllaN01Bear
(24,855 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,298 posts)I thought that was what capitalism was about. These guys arent capitalist? WTF?
LisaM
(29,121 posts)And they follow an Ayn Randian doctrine. I don't think enough people understand what a harmful belief system that is.
Irish_Dem
(68,705 posts)They own it all.
Marthe48
(20,513 posts)money is not everything.
progressoid
(51,317 posts)And now has xAI.
Solly Mack
(94,856 posts)Fuck the pus pockets.
Shipwack
(2,621 posts)...goes into the public domain?
Or does this only apply to "creators", not "publishers"?
🤔
Dave Bowman
(5,030 posts)generalbetrayus
(839 posts)From the linked article:
But in January 2024, the copyright on Steamboat Willie officially expired, and Mickey Mouse is now officially in the public domain. This means that now anyone in the U.S. can use the Steamboat Willie version of the Mickey Mouse character without fear of copyright infringement. Copyright laws vary by country, so in some places Mickey remains protected.
Since the start of the year, a trailer for a Mickey Mouse horror film has been released while other digital creators have edited the footage from Steamboat Willie to make it sound as if Mickey is using profanity.
Nevertheless, Disney still retains some protections of the Mickey Mouse character. Versions of Mickey Mouse that were released after Steamboat Willie that feature his quintessential red shorts and big eyes remain protected.
BootinUp
(49,667 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,030 posts)hay rick
(8,647 posts)Sounds like a slippery slope to me.
FirstLight
(14,995 posts)


what sucks is there NO guardrails to prevent this from happening... Not with our democracy in the shitter...
angrychair
(10,556 posts)The idea that billionaires want legitimize the stealing of the hard work of other people is totally a billionaire thing to do.
PortTack
(35,579 posts)Ideas to bring buyers back, they have none. They certainly wouldnt ever consider hiring creative ppl to design something new and innovative .so just take someone elses work.
ultralite001
(1,565 posts)have no ideas of their own...
W/ dissolution of IP law, it's much less expensive for them to steal w/ impunity...
bronxiteforever
(10,362 posts)
JCMach1
(28,617 posts)Martin68
(25,547 posts)Be Leave On
(161 posts)Cory Doctorow had a good comment on "Machina Economicus" yesterday that relates well to this OP.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/14/timmy-share/#a-superior-moral-justification-for-selfishness
LudwigPastorius
(12,275 posts)Thanks!
Joinfortmill
(17,873 posts)Klarkashton
(3,295 posts)For all that shit open source. Including all the documentation.
Fuck those bastards.
niyad
(123,417 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,030 posts)electric_blue68
(21,050 posts)slightlv
(5,407 posts)I told her not to get too attached. It was corporate owned and that it would show its true face eventually. I didn't think it would be so fast, but they evidently felt they got to a comfort zone of people and decided to push the limits. It never fails. They are incapable of acting in a society's best interests... only in the gimme gimme phase of childish inability of delayed gratification, among other defects.
I hadn't joined yet... this assures me I really don't need it.
Johonny
(23,431 posts)Jesus Christ the sense of entitlement of these people.
I have an idea, let's steal all their money and make them poor. See if it works for them as they think it works for other people. Ass holes.
Dave Bowman
(5,030 posts)patphil
(7,720 posts)Then it'd be a terrible violation of their creative endeavors.
Seriously, why would someone put years of hard work into a project, only to have it rendered valueless by people who found it easier to steal than to do the work themselves?
Just one more reminder of how little the super rich care about the rest of us.
These guys are the true parasites. All they want to do is take, take, take. They rarely give anything back. And even then it's just a ruse for them to set the stage for another round of taking.
Mr. Evil
(3,264 posts)Let's just eliminate the parasitic billionaires. I mean, there's a nice place in El Salvador we can send them to. Warm climate, diet and weight conscious meals, breezy ocean air. I'm sure they'd learn to appreciate it. I know we certainly would.
Kid Berwyn
(20,096 posts)That would take all the profit out of thievery.
Citizen, dont you see the logic of welfare for the wealthy?
Bernardo de La Paz
(54,883 posts)Artists and musicians are forced to publish by the nature of their works. Their work has no value unless published.
Mucus trade secrets are protected for example as computer code in cars. It is not published and they have protection against reverse engineering. Again they go with "rights for me and none for you. Haha!".
Mucus is so greedy.
Karasu
(1,003 posts)Meowmee
(8,746 posts)Karasu
(1,003 posts)without our consent. Americans don't even have the ability to submit "opt-out of AI services" forms on fucking Facebook like the EU did, because they actually have their own specific, unifying AI Act, which has been pissing the techbros off. For me, it's a very strong reason to leave the country, and with each day there are less to stay.
Iamscrewed
(150 posts)France 1789.
Meowmee
(8,746 posts)Would want that 😣
bucolic_frolic
(49,978 posts)Coding would be publicly owned when created. So would books and music. No one would be paid for producing it. They could stay home and play videogames.
David__77
(24,026 posts)dchill
(42,121 posts)moonshinegnomie
(3,312 posts)after all its just IP...
Renew Deal
(83,834 posts)TomWilm
(1,902 posts)... and anybody could freely pirate Twitter, make a better interface and attract customers for the copy product.
aggiesal
(9,959 posts)Do I need to add the sarcasm thingee?
Maru Kitteh
(30,092 posts)now.
Passages
(2,662 posts)PortTack
(35,579 posts)Passages
(2,662 posts)The bill passed the General Assembly with support from several Illinois labor unions
By Ben Szalinski
Wednesday, March 26, 2025
https://abc7chicago.com/post/governor-jb-pritzker-vetoes-bill-would-have-required-illinois-warehouse-workers-know-quotas/16084637/
yowzayowzayowza
(7,071 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,707 posts)(as at least 10% of those with ancestors from Donegal can claim), I realize that it can be a bloody business. I hope that we can stop this thin end of the wedge from giving AI human rights like corporations have been.
RainCaster
(12,704 posts)And Bezos is doing that for all the patents that AWS has?
Trueblue Texan
(3,298 posts)Copyright and trademark are the same thing in different areas of creative products.
ReRe
(11,569 posts)SheltieLover
(66,884 posts)
misanthrope
(8,685 posts)I guess he'll be electrocuting an elephant next.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(122,037 posts)iluvtennis
(21,157 posts)the right to use their intellectual property.
Fk these fascists.
eppur_se_muova
(38,936 posts)
OMGWTF
(4,682 posts)Anything over $999,999,999.99 should be taxed at 100%.