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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:27 PM Jan 2012

The right-wingers have backed themselves into a political corner

They felt compelled to choose between a Mormon (Mormonism is not considered a "Christian" religion by many Southerners) and a serial adulterer who they perceive can truly "take the fight" to President Obama in future debates. Casting aside all pretenses of religious purity, they were forced in their own minds to vote for the serial adulterer, touting the principle of forgiveness of sin as their excuse. In this process, they exhibited their own religious hypocrisy, shades of racism and willingness to disregard the Constitution's guarantee of religious freedom to all citizens (despite their claims of being strict constructionists).

In short, most of these voters played the role of the emperor wearing no clothes, hoping no one would notice. Most of us did.

Sam

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The right-wingers have backed themselves into a political corner (Original Post) Samantha Jan 2012 OP
Please make sure everyone rubs in to these so called religious elites themselves. I want to know southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #1
The skies opened and Angels sing and God zaps them with sun rays coming from the parting clouds. lunatica Jan 2012 #3
Ok southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #6
I personally believe there are a whole lot of things wrapped into the cloak of religion Samantha Jan 2012 #9
Totally agree with you. The sad thing is they seem to be pushing people away from southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #28
Some say The Newt has repent. Someone please explain to me how that works. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #2
You repent after the dirty deed each time lunatica Jan 2012 #4
2 things. He is either in bed often or as a new convert to the catholic faith he goes to confession. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #8
You know -- there is one small detail that has been lost in recent discussion Samantha Jan 2012 #12
I am willing to bet it still is how she sees it. She is like Newt, she wants the power. I wonder southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #17
You know they are a power driven couple. They are partners I think more than married. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #19
After he sinks, he will write a self-promoted "tell all" book Samantha Jan 2012 #20
The people who get them as gifts will use them as fire starters in their fireplaces. LOL southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #24
I would think weekly rather than after each trangression Sheepshank Jan 2012 #7
You could use the "Bush doctrine" - Preemptive repentation. (nt) reACTIONary Jan 2012 #30
That is just too funny Samantha Jan 2012 #33
The only thing I can say is that I personally don't believe that Samantha Jan 2012 #11
Neither. They are covered for all of it by Christ's blood. Obama, though he's Christian and never Fuzz Jan 2012 #21
Such was effectively the predetermined outcome TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #5
He certainly is less terrible than Gingrich SaintPete Jan 2012 #10
like picking the better Menendez brother Skittles Jan 2012 #15
Pretty much on point Samantha Jan 2012 #18
I also agree. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #25
Mine is not a defense of Romney SaintPete Jan 2012 #29
oh I know that Skittles Jan 2012 #31
Controllable by who? Not by any that have my interests in mind or that are up to any good. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #22
I hear you. I want my enemy neutered SaintPete Jan 2012 #23
This is exactly why the republicon authoritarian masters will not let The Newt win rhett o rick Jan 2012 #26
Yes, there's that and then there is this Samantha Jan 2012 #35
They have NO ONE Samantha Jan 2012 #13
Okay put aside ALL OF THE NOISE we have heard regarding election commentary Samantha Jan 2012 #16
Yup, its all noise...nothing of import to report....nada, nai, puka, zilch, all band aid shit, opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #27
k&r... spanone Jan 2012 #14
"Mormonism is not considered a "Christian" religion by many Southerners"... No... Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #32
Well, I am a Christian from the South and I don't judge Mormons Samantha Jan 2012 #34
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
1. Please make sure everyone rubs in to these so called religious elites themselves. I want to know
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jan 2012

how in the hell do they know god really forgives them?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. The skies opened and Angels sing and God zaps them with sun rays coming from the parting clouds.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

Don't you know anything?

edited for spelling

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
9. I personally believe there are a whole lot of things wrapped into the cloak of religion
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jan 2012

in order to attract the political support of the religious masses. This is simply a charade which in fact orchestrates steps to achieve other goals. I say this both as a religious person who does not wear my religion on my sleeve and a political junkie observing the plays in this arena for decades. These are maneuvers put in place by the likes of Karl Rove, the Koch Brothers and their ilk.

Just my two cents.

Sam

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
28. Totally agree with you. The sad thing is they seem to be pushing people away from
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

organized church. That is why I stopped going.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
2. Some say The Newt has repent. Someone please explain to me how that works.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

Do you repent weekly? Or after each transgression?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. You repent after the dirty deed each time
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jan 2012

That way you're always up to date on the being forgiven part.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
8. 2 things. He is either in bed often or as a new convert to the catholic faith he goes to confession.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jan 2012

Knowing catholic priests money talks and he can get all the forgiveness he wants. By the way did you see him at the National Cathedral in DC receiving communion christmas eve? I nearly choked. I figured if god can forgive this piece of shit then I can sit at home and ask god for forgivenes myself.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
12. You know -- there is one small detail that has been lost in recent discussion
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:04 PM
Jan 2012

If Newt Gingrich truly told his second wife Callista with regards to sharing him didn't care what he did, is that rule of thumb still operative today or is it now defunct in view of her marriage to him? Just wondering what the score is on that point at this moment in time.

Sam

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. I am willing to bet it still is how she sees it. She is like Newt, she wants the power. I wonder
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jan 2012

how is she going to feel when he loses? You know this has been a partnership between the 2 of them. I wonder what she will do because he has managed to destroy the republican party and he will lose the general. How will he make his living?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
19. You know they are a power driven couple. They are partners I think more than married.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jan 2012

I find it interesting what is going to happen after the primary. I don't think he will win in the general. He has managed to destroyed the republican party. I wonder how he will make his income now.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. After he sinks, he will write a self-promoted "tell all" book
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jan 2012

which in fact tells one nothing. Callista will buy the first 1,000 copies and give them away as Christmas gifts and Newt will deduct the cost from his taxes. Then he will make the lecture rounds filling in the gaps of the book by supplying more "tell all" details about the Democrats and other devils he knows.

And so the cycle continues.

Sam

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
7. I would think weekly rather than after each trangression
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jan 2012

That way to get to fully enjoy 7 days worth of the trangression and completely exhaust all it has to offer.

I'd think if one repented after each trangression, and keeps repeating the trangression, god might catch on.

Of course one would have to get a new trangerssion each week...but with so many out there and new ones always being added to the list, I don't think it wouldn't be a problem coming up with several hundred/few thousand.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
11. The only thing I can say is that I personally don't believe that
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jan 2012

I believe Newt Gingrich lives each day calculating how to take the next step to achieve his goal of being the man who sits in the Oval Office, and everything else revolves around that endeavor.

Sam

 

Fuzz

(8,827 posts)
21. Neither. They are covered for all of it by Christ's blood. Obama, though he's Christian and never
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jan 2012

cheated on his wife as far as we know, is a socialist liberal communist muslim facist, so he's doomed to hell for all eternity already because God doesn't forgive non-republicans.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
5. Such was effectively the predetermined outcome
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:48 PM
Jan 2012

Picking Willard wouldn't change my perspective an iota.

I have no clue why some Democrats think the corporatist is okay/tolerable. He is no better than Gingrich or any of the rest.

SaintPete

(533 posts)
10. He certainly is less terrible than Gingrich
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jan 2012

because he's controllable.

Newt is dangerous. He's not even an ideologue unless it promotes his own interests. He is feral.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
22. Controllable by who? Not by any that have my interests in mind or that are up to any good.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:05 PM
Jan 2012

I also suspect that you don't become Speaker without taking on a fair number of strings and feral makes a critter an equal opportunity danger, which I'll take over being in the wrong end of a controlled danger in cold hearted, calculating, and vile hands.

Any which way you go you are only making a guess on a potentially less disgusting form off vomit and it gets down to personal tastes because puke is still the end result.

My tastes lean toward the suicide bomber over the blackhawk as an enemy. The suicide bomber is going to take himself and maybe some of those who sent him.

SaintPete

(533 posts)
23. I hear you. I want my enemy neutered
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jan 2012

Newt still has his balls, and is too smart for his own good (but no so smart so as to recognize his weakness)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
26. This is exactly why the republicon authoritarian masters will not let The Newt win
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jan 2012

the nomination. Karl stills has tricks up his sleeve. The Newt has lots and lots of skeletons in his closet. I am betting he has had affairs during this marriage.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
35. Yes, there's that and then there is this
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

Boehner thinks of himself as the most influential Republican in Washington. Should a Republican defeat President Obama, he or she cannot have a bigger ego than Boehner. After all, Boehner himself spearheaded the effort to dethrone Newt Gingrich from the Speaker position in the 90s AND HE DOES NOT WANT HIM BACK IN ANY CAPACITY.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
13. They have NO ONE
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jan 2012

and that is becoming readily apparent to the voting public. They are panic-stricken because they feel the opportunity to take the Presidential election this year is slipping into oblivion.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
16. Okay put aside ALL OF THE NOISE we have heard regarding election commentary
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jan 2012

At this moment in time, after three Republican primary contests, one might say everything has gone as could have been predicted before the votes were cast.

Race #1 in Iowa -- an atypical snapshot of the voting electorate in the United States, an extremely conservative group of people went to the polls and by a small margin elected Rick Santorum.

Race #2 in NH -- went for a so-called favorite son. No surprise there.

Race #3 in SC -- known nationally for its ultra-dirty politics, voters yesterday went to the polls and selected the most vile among the Republican pack to "speak" for them in this national contest.

Truly, are there any surprises here that most of us could not have foreseen absent any professional commentary on the subject?

All that background noise that has accompanied these races is merely the professional commentators trying to justify their existence. Think about it.

Sam

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
27. Yup, its all noise...nothing of import to report....nada, nai, puka, zilch, all band aid shit,
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jan 2012

most GOPer Ideas are not complying with the Positive Trait Filters...

1. Assessment...;

2. Logical...;

3. Sanity...

Instead they go for Emotional Issues....we know them as single issue aspects of the polsystem.

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
32. "Mormonism is not considered a "Christian" religion by many Southerners"... No...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jan 2012

Mormonism is not considered a "Christian" religion by most Christians. Same with JWs.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
34. Well, I am a Christian from the South and I don't judge Mormons
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jan 2012

I grew up in a Baptist Church, was taught that the "judging business" was left to a higher authority and I live by that. I truly am uncomfortable talking about religion in a political context because I believe religion should not be preached within the political realm nor politics practiced at churches. When I used the word "many" earlier, I should have been more careful with my words.

Sam

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