How do we LOSE in 2012?

[BrentWil]

Simply question. It is the day after the election. We have lost the Presidency and both the House and Senate. It has been a big year for the GOP. How did it happen?

[spanone]

1. relax, it didn't.

[RebelOne]

3. Hope you are right. n/t

[rhett o rick]

2. We were caught flat footed when the election in 2000 was stolen.

We were caught flat footed AGAIN when the election in 2004 was stolen. Are we prepared for another stolen election? Or are we going to capitulate to the authoritarian masters again?

[BrentWil]

6. FL came down to a few votes...

While I disagree with Gore V. Bush (Should have just counted all the votes and did so on the same standards, even if it blew the timeline) it isn't that likely. If we lose, it is most likely that we will lose because they get more votes.

[rhett o rick]

19. Do you agree or not that the elections in 2000 and 2004 were stolen?

You need to chose a side.

[jberryhill]

28. One needn't choose a side to observe...

...that they were at least close enough to steal. That's bad enough.

[rhett o rick]

41. I agree that is was terrible that the vote was that close. But to allow one party to

mess with the election system, and let the SCOTUS decide on the presidency is outrageous. I guess each freedom we lose isnt enough to fight for. "and then they came for me."

[BrentWil]

29. Maybe 2000 but not 2004...

And stolen isn't a word I would use. I think we simply tied an election and lost another one.

[rhett o rick]

39. yes and there were WMD in Iraq. nm

[hobbit709]

40. Yeah, like the 3500 votes for Bush in a town with only 2900 voters

As happened in OH and was certified by Ken Blackwell.

[BrentWil]

4. I guess I should answer...

The economy turns down and they pick Mitt instead of Newt.

I think it is a simple answer, actually.

[NAO]

12. they have expressed repeatedly, they will vote AGAINST Obama, no matter who is their candidate

[BrentWil]

16. They will... 30 percent of Americans will...

They need a few more to actually win.

[gateley]

18. How about those who truly aren't against Obama, per se, but believe

the Republican platform makes sense? Are they included in that 30%? Or those who will vote Republican no matter who, but again, aren't rabidly anti-Obama?

[NAO]

20. A Republican who is not rabidly anti-Obama?

I don't think so. That's about as likely as Democrats who were not rabidly anti-Bush in 2004.

[gateley]

42. I know a couple -- seriously. But they're not fueled by racism, either. They're more

just voting like their parents always did, and politics weren't discussed much. Just -- vote for the Republican. So they do.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. Overconfidence and flinging shit at the repub nominee's personal life and beliefs rather than

his policies.

But you're going to be in deep shit for even positing this methinks.

[BrentWil]

8. You think?

It is just a hypothetical...

And I disagree.. We have to be all over Newt or Romney. Super Pac are there for us and we have to use them.

[MichaelMcGuire]

34. I think the saying is

'playing the man, not the ball'

[CakeGrrl]

7. People stayed home.

Not enough votes, you lose.

If people can't see how dangerous and destructive the GOP is, what can you do?

Of course, the Dems have to do what they can to try to get the word out in no uncertain terms what it will mean to have the GOP in power.

None of this 'professional courtesy' crap, or 'taking the high road' - it needs to be made clear that the GOP will DESTROY the social protections and safety nets that took so many years to build.

[BrentWil]

10. I totally agree...

People have to understand that this could and will mean the end to Social Security and Medicare.

[NAO]

9. Newt channels rage, bile, vitriol and most importantly....

he is not Obama.

Seriously. The conservatives were bracing themselves to vote for ...ack... Romney, who by their own description is not even a "real" conservative...if it came down to it, anybody to get Obama out.

If they were prepared to vote for that pompous, stiff, super-rich vulture capitialist who is also a member of a "cult", then they can vote easily for Gingrich

[BrentWil]

11. About 30 percent of the people will be very happy to vote for Newt...

NT

[bluestateguy]

13. You're talking about the Democratic Party here

They find all kinds of ways to lose that you thought never previously existed.

[RZM]

24. I recognize Shrum and Estrich

I can't place the other two. Who are they?

[Liberty Belle]

14. Rigging electronic voting machines, having absentee ballots disappear from Dem districts,

scrubbing minorities and liberals off voting rolls improperly, the usual GOP vote-stealing scenarios.

[Broderick]

15. Saw my first Obama commercial after the last game.

It was on energy and it was good. Anyway, there is no way we lose. No possible way IMO.

[RZM]

25. That's exactly it. Getting complacent

That's the one way the Dems can lose.

Years ago I covered a school funding campaign for a small local paper. One of the pro-levy people said 'we can't just do 100 percent of what's required to win. We have to do 150 percent of what's required.'

That's how you win. Leave nothing to chance.

[Broderick]

26. Thats why I was glad to see the commercial but I

Get your point. I am an optimist and I think being positive and enthusiastic is important. Losing is not an option.

[RZM]

27. Positive in imporant. But postiive is a state of mind, not reality

Obama will not walk the way he did in 2008. It's going to be a real fight this time. If we sleep on the Republican nominee, they will steamroll us. It's going to be a battle.

I'd say that Obama has a 65 percent or more chance of reelection. But anything short of 100 is not a sure thing.

[Obamacare]

35. 2008 wasn't easy either!!

The 08 election was hardly a cake walk for Obama. I remember shortly after the rethug convention, McCain was leading in the polls. Obama, didn't bounce back until after a few debates. The MSM was saying the same exact thing they are saying now, which the independants are voting for Mittens. There was all this talk about McCain pulling more indys, thank God that didn't happen in the end.

[Bonobo]

17. It is impossible to lose as long as the winner has an official "D" stamped on their name. nt

[riverwalker]

21. First, talk me down off this ledge

then I'll tell you.

[Motown_Johnny]

22. the far left split off because Pres. Obama isn't liberal enough for them

I see no other possibility

[joshcryer]

23. Only way it happens is if the activist left buys into Republican voter suppression tactics.

They parrot failings of the administration and Democrats in general, and simply fail to get out the vote. The African-American and Hispanic vote is simply not enough to take Obama or the Democrats over. We need a good chunk of whites.

[jberryhill]

30. $5 gas this summer

It doesn't matter what the cause - whether or not artificial.

People think the president has a gas price magic wand, and they do not understand the basics of how much petroleum there is, where it is, and the true cost of extracting and refining it.

They do know. To the penny. How much they pay for gasoline.

[Rex]

31. You woke up in an alternate universe?

It can happen!

[AtomicKitten]

32. The only way the GOP "wins" is by stealing it.

They are already setting the groundwork for voter suppression bills across the country.

[xfundy]

33. You know what?

I've read several of your posts. Not by stalking, just by running across them.

Your OPs and all responses I can recall are never positive toward democrats. You seemed to have a thing for Grinch a day or two ago.

Is the publican party so hard up for ideas and oppo research they sent you here to talk to the intelligent crowd?

I don't mind it, it's just terribly transparent.

[justiceischeap]

36. People didn't get out and vote.

Historically, if the Dems GOTV, we win. There seem to be more of us than them.

[lovemydog]

37. if people under 30

vote at a rate much lower than they did in 2008

[zipplewrath]

38. The economy

The economic indicators are good right now. But they aren't that good and they could turn bad at any point in the next 9 months. The european debt crisis, the price of oil, a major natural disaster, any of these things could have horrible affects at this point, and they are almost completely out of the control of the administration.