NRA Head's son was involved in a Road Rage shooting.

[Joe Bacon]

Is anyone going to ask David Keene why his son shot at a car in a road rage incident?

http://www.techyville.com/2012/12/social-media/bet-you-didnt-know-nra-leaders-son-fired-at-another-motorist-during-a-road-rage-incident/

Is that a responsible use of a firearm?

I'd like to know if there was a good guy with a gun who was ready to take out David Keene's Son, a bad guy with a gun?

[Gregorian]

1. Just a wild guess- he hates his parents. He was emotionally crippled. He can be helped.

We need a health infrastructure. There are millions of people running around like this guy. Your neighbor who appears totally normal. Almost everyone has big issues. And they all go under the radar because it's all considered "normal".

We need to heighten our sensitivity to human issues. We need health care, not military spending.

This guy could have found a place to go where healthy people could straighten him out as to his dad's shortcomings. And I would bet my right arm his dad is messed up.

All conjecture. Just my speculation.


Edit- Just to be clear, I am not advocating lists or targets or anything to do with guilt or even restricting people. I'm talking about HELPING. Giving people the chance to find help. And by help I mean ways of improving oneself. Something good. Not punitive. Aside from keeping those who have shown their violent nature from having guns, there should be places that are fun and helpful. We used to have cultural centers in my town when I grew up. But they were more like babysitting centers for teenagers. There is a place for real and serious help that would be a place people would actually want to go to. I don't know. It seems like it could be done.

[DFW]

11. I've met Keene

I wouldn't want to be his son. I've met wounded badgers with a milder demeanor.

[Rider3]

25. wow, that tells you something

[Chorophyll]

15. Or maybe being raised in a mondo-Gun Culture household had something to do with it?

[freshwest]

33. +1, 000 to all you said. That's wisdom and compassion. It exceeds the security of being armed.

[samsingh]

2. this question should be asked. sounds like the parent are irresponsible.

[pinboy3niner]

3. Son obviously is mentally ill, should've been on a list

[SummerSnow]

46. Check his hard drive

[Lone_Star_Dem]

4. Too bad there wasn't an armed guard in that car to stop him.

Maybe I shouldn't give the NRA nuts any ideas though?

[freshwest]

20. How about armed teabaggers lined along all the roads and sidewalks in the country?

Newest edition:

[SamKnause]

21. Hunting

Thanks for posting.

The first one is vicious.

I really don't know how to respond to such hate.

I disagree with everything that Republicans and the Tea Party stand for, but I don't want to hunt them.

The gap is so wide and continues to widen.

I don't think this country will ever be united.

[freshwest]

24. The first one has adorned bumpers for twenty years now. It's a full generation of hate.

[byeya]

31. There's a bumper sticker: "I Don't Brake For Liberals"

[freshwest]

34. Yes, the pro-life movement targets other human beings... again!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

36. I've actually seen the first one on vehicles before.

The first time was not long after 9/11. That version said bin Laden instead of liberal. I thought they were a sick individual, but I admit to telling myself they may have lost a loved one and were damaged by it. The second time was 2010 at the grocery store on the back window of someone's pickup. It said Liberal on that one. I was shocked by the first one, but more so by the second one.

Who puts something like that out there for anyone to see? It's like saying "hi there everyone, I'm a reactionary maniac and proud of it."

[freshwest]

47. I've seen these since the 1990s, inspired by Limbaugh, Delay and Armey.

Palin's target map with the gunsights on liberals was merely a rehash of that theme.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/13/935997/-Stephen-Colbert-calls-out-Sarah-Palin-for-violent-political-rhetoric

After the Giffords shooting Palin removed this from her website:



And Limbaugh had this sign removed:



Yes, it does say they're proud of themselves. It also says they believe other humans should be gunned down like animals. Those are human hunting licenses, just like every mass murderer has in his heart.

After the Giffords shooting, Sarah Palin's Facebook page was made into screenshots and preserved. The right wing is creating people who believe it was a good and necessary thing to kill a nine year old child. Just part of it:

A commenter posted the following at 18:12:

"It's ok. Christina Taylor Green was probably going to end up a left wing bleeding heart liberal anyway. Hey, as 'they' say, what would you do if you had the chance to kill Hitler as a kid? Exactly."

http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html

They'd seen the pictures of the girl, knew who she was and still said that.

[sulphurdunn]

44. I saw a video once

of some clown who'd cornered a deer and wanted his buddy to film him killing it with his bare hands. The deer got up on its hind legs and proceeded to dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee with its hooves. It's a miracle it didn't kill the stupid bastard. After the moran was down, his pal just continued filming. The deer was probably a liberal.

[Matariki]

5. He plays video games?

[Chemisse]

6. Does this man honestly think it would be better

If a 'good guy' in the car shot his son, who was clearly the 'bad guy' on that day?

[Hoyt]

7. Doesn't surprise me. Guns are dangerous, yet gun cultists don't want to talk about that.

There was another thread about three NRA Board members having discharged guns accidently. Probably more than that, and I'll bet my rear a few have used guns to intimidate spouse.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

8. giant kick and rec for very sad poetic justice.

For visibility.

[toby jo]

9. Happened in 2002 - he got 10 years - he'd be out this year if there was no early release.

What a treasure.

[defacto7]

10. Do unto others...

before they do unto you!

The NRA version of the Golden Rule.

[Tutonic]

12. Google David Michael Keene Road Rage

David Michael Keene, the prominent national conservative activist's son charged in a road rage shooting on the George Washington Memorial Parkway, was institutionalized with "severe emotional problems" seven times between the ages of 8 and 13, his mother said Tuesday.

"He's had a continuing problem with impulse control, and an exaggerated belief that he was in more danger than he was in at times, causing him to respond in a way that was more excessive or out of line with what was going on," Keene's mother, Diana Carr, told reporters outside the U.S. District Court in Alexandria.

There's more...So let me summarize (with some conjecture)...Daddy Keene knew that his son was a nut, kept guns in the house and son uses gun to attempt to harm motorist in road rage. Jr. Keene was likely medicated on some kind of psychotic drug and had girlfriend trying to protect him. Kinda sounds like the Lanza gun nut. Is David Keene qualified to speak out on these issues? DO some digging, sister seems to be some kind of a nut also.

[dlwickham]

14. was likely?

in other words, you have no clue if he was or not

[dlwickham]

39. dickwad?

really

what are you-12

[ReRe]

17. Diagnosis:

Schizophrenia

[The Magistrate]

26. Certainly Sounds, Sir, Like He Learned the Lessons Of His Home Well....

"He's had a continuing problem with impulse control, and an exaggerated belief that he was in more danger than he was in at times, causing him to respond in a way that was more excessive or out of line with what was going on," Keene's mother, Diana Carr, told reporters outside the U.S. District Court in Alexandria.

[freshwest]

32. Sounds like a typical bagger, bircher, infowars nut. Don't have facilities for all of them.

Problem is the NRA is blaming all people with MH issues instead of their advocacy of military grade weaponry in the hands of every child, and no way to know who has one. I consider that to be more 'nutty' than any one individual. This is a deflection from the society the NRA is building, everyone on hyperalert, thinking it's normal behavior, looking at every other human being as 'the enemy.' This is mass insanity. We need to deal with that first, not the MH. These guys are mainstream.

Preppers Are Getting Ready for the Barackalypse

Obama's second term is very bad news for survivalists. It's also very good news for the industry catering to their worst fears.



http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/preppers-survivalist-doomsday-obama

There's huge money to be made in crazy. This is just the beginning. Many people now have a invested interest in destruction. How does anyone expect to deal with the generation that is growing up this way?

[BainsBane]

43. Sounds like a typical gun zealot

Not just a Teabagger. Sounds a lot like what I've heard by some on this site.

[suffragette]

49. Exactly, Sir. Fear, hate and unlimited access to guns and ammunition.

It's a vile lesson to teach each generation and a poisonous recipe for society.

[dlwickham]

13. looks like someone did ask him about it

In 2002, Keene’s son David Michael Keene was driving on the George Washington Memorial Parkway when, in a road-rage incident, he fired a handgun at another motorist. He was sentenced to ten years in prison for “using, brandishing, and discharging a firearm in a crime of violence.” I asked Keene if this private tragedy had left him uncertain about what the N.R.A. had wrought. He said no: “You break the law, you pay the price.”

he broke the law and went to jail

you all want your pound of flesh or something?

[Chorophyll]

16. Do you not think it's possible that being raised in a household where guns are venerated

might lead a young person to reach for a gun?

I don't want "my pound of flesh." I want people to stop fucking shooting each other.

[dlwickham]

38. so if he was raised in a house that didn't "venerate" guns

he wouldn't have used one?

you do want your pound of flesh and you want it taken out of anyone who doesn't think like you

[Chorophyll]

41. Refer back to my previous post, in which I mentioned people not fucking shooting each other.

How that translates to my wanting a pound of flesh, I do not know.

[Tutonic]

23. Trolling for gumdrops today?

Pound of flesh??? What are you like twelve?

Also interesting at the time that the girlfriend tried to take partial blame. Keene and girlfriend insisted they were fighting over his holding of gun and that it accidentally went off--inches from the other drivers head. Evidently, the judge found him to be quite credible because he threw his ass in jail for ten years. That sounds like a man with some kind of issue, but according to you Trollboy, I'm a bacterial virus in search of flesh.

[klook]

28. Where's the wise RKBA zealot to remind us

that guns don't "go off"?

[dlwickham]

37. nope

not 12

sorry

[sabrina 1]

30. No, I would just prefer that parents who are this irresponsible providing access

to dangerous weapons to a son they knew had problems, contributing to passing legislation for the rest of us who take care never to allow such a dangerous situation to occur.

You want us to feel good that such people are behind much of the legislation that has put so many guns in the hands of so many people like Keene's son?

[Raine]

18. Living with all those guns make people like that paranoid. nt

[ashling]

19. Here is what the Huff Po wrote about that incident

when Keene was inducted to the office of pres of NRW:

***

One person who presumably will not be attending the event is Keene's son, David Michael Keene, who according to news reports and trial documents was convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison for a 2002 road-rage incident in which he fired a handgun from his moving vehicle at another car on the George Washington Memorial Parkway in Virginia.

For more on this, let's go to that pro-gun bastion of conservative reporting, WorldNetDaily. In a December 2010 article which focused primarily on a rumored $400,000 embezzlement scandal facing the American Conservative Union, WorldNetDaily reported that:

In addition to his role at ACU, David Keene also serves as 1st vice president of the National Rifle Association and, as such, is in line to become the powerful gun lobby's next president.


That role caused the NRA some anguish when Keene's son, David Michael Keene, was arrested for a road rage incident in which he allegedly fired a gun at another motorist on the George Washington Memorial Parkway. The round fired shattered the rear window of the victim's car, lodging into the driver's seat, coming within inches of hitting him, according to police reports.

Remember, guns don't attempt to kill people, the sons of NRA presidents do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/new-nra-prez-david-keenes_b_856268.html

[caseymoz]

27. Well, if the other driver had a gun . . .

David King's son might have controlled his rage. That, or he'd end up with bullet in the forehead. But then he'd be a criminal stopped during a crime, and that doesn't count. Another crime thwarted by the restraining power of handguns.

[lunasun]

29. He needs an armed security guard with him on the road !

[SummerSnow]

45. Shouldn't there be a national database for road ragers?

[Little Star]

35. Fuckin Hypocrites!!!

[Auntie Bush]

40. How long he he actually go to jail? I guess he won't be owning any guns anymore. But

I'm sure his father let's him 'borrow' some of his guns. Too bad he doesn't do something criminal with them and then hold his father responsible. Put both of those pathetic cowards in jail for keeps.

[svpadgham]

42. I'm probably completely wrong, but

I'd guess he got to keep his guns, and his driver's license was suspended.

[jsr]

48. He seems like excellent leadership material for the NRA's School Protection Service

to be funded by taxpayers.

[dmr]

50. Kick

[SunSeeker]

51. We should tax bullets $1,000 a piece.

Maybe that will cause the gun nuts to think twice before firing a shot. Decency and humanity don't seem to be impediments at this point. Even if it doesn't slow down the shooting, and least it will help pay for some of the damage it causes.