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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:25 PM Dec 2012

The Great Republican Recession of 2013 is Now Five Days Away

After the failure of his fiscal cliff negotiations with the White House, followed by his humiliating inability to get even his ridiculous "Plan B" proposal approved by House Republicans, John Boehner gave up and punted the whole thing over to the president and the Senate. Why? Matt Yglesias says Boehner likes the idea because the only way to get anything through the Senate is to compromise with Republicans, which will produce a compromise to the right of Obama's current proposal. "Then once something like that difference-splitting bill passes the Senate, Boehner gets to take it up as the new baseline for negotiations and pull the ultimate resolution even further to the right."

True enough. But I doubt this was Boehner's intent from the beginning. Remember that during the debt limit talks last year, Boehner initially handed off negotiating duties to Eric Cantor, hoping that if Cantor signed off on a deal it would get the rest of the tea party caucus to throw in their votes as well. But Cantor double-crossed him after a few weeks, pulling out of the talks and pushing them back in Boehner's lap so that Boehner would have to take the heat for agreeing to any tax increases. But even at that, Boehner didn't give up: he tried to keep negotiating until it became clear that the Cantorites just flatly wouldn't approve any feasible deal. Eventually a deal got done after Mitch McConnell got involved.

We're seeing the same dynamic this time around: Boehner trying to negotiate, but eventually giving up after it became clear that the Cantorites wouldn't agree to any feasible kind of deal. So now he's going back to the debt limit playbook, and hoping that maybe a deal that comes with the imprimatur of Senate Republicans will also get enough Republican votes in the House to pass. Besides, if a deal passes the Senate, that gives him an excuse to bring it to the floor even if it doesn't have the votes of a majority of the Republican caucus.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/12/great-republican-recession-2013-now-days-away?

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The Great Republican Recession of 2013 is Now Five Days Away (Original Post) MindMover Dec 2012 OP
Why does everything have to get pulled to the right all the time? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #1
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
1. Why does everything have to get pulled to the right all the time?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:43 PM
Dec 2012

If that's the way it goes then why do we not start as far to the left as possible? Why start the negotiations with any consideration of the other side at all?

I just feel we're going to get hosed no matter what happens. It's only going to be a matter of degree.

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