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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't ever under estimate Joe Biden.
Yeah - he's that lovable uncle buying pies at Costco, posing with bikers in a restaurant, and yes - the man that whispers BFDs in the President's ear....
But when you want a bulldog - you call in Joe.
Whether it's to give a speech to the Firefighters.
To take down an uppity Eddie Munster with just a smile - okay - laughed in his face..
or to hold Mitch "One Term President" McConnell's hand and move it over to the left....
He deserves an appreciation thread tonite.
No, we didn't get everything we wanted.... but the gopers got even less ...
and that is called negotiating.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)Great picture by the way.
jillan
(39,451 posts)It's a keeper.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)pathansen
(1,039 posts)What a performance that was after Obama's first failed debate.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)There is no way he could compete with that! I almost felt sorry for him.............but then I came to my senses.
Cha
(296,780 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)thanx for posting.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)Very jovial intimidation!
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)Or am I imagining it? I lurvve Joe.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)It DOES look like he has a stick in his hand! "I don't want to use it Mitch, but we're running out of alternatives here Man."
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)PatSeg
(47,239 posts)"Speak softly and carry a big stick!" And wear a BIG grin too.
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)Lugnut
(9,791 posts)Dude wasn't messing around.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)....one of those Keystone cop night sticks. Or maybe a skinny umbrella?
gateley
(62,683 posts)sheshe2
(83,637 posts)Happy New Year!
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Cha
(296,780 posts).. you clever girl!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)"Don't cry. Big boys don't cry. They just take their medicine like little men."
longship
(40,416 posts)The best Veep in a long, long time... since LBJ. But Joe has much more charisma than LBJ.
Love him!
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)I have admired Joe for a long time - especially after this past election and especially after negotiating a deal that is something us Democrats can be proud of!
Even though he will be 73 in 2016, He is my first choice for President. He has a passion that is unbelievable, but can also govern when times are tough.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)And unappreciated for the most part.
Best Vice President ever!
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)He would make a great President.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Grey
(1,581 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Cha
(296,780 posts)narnian60
(3,510 posts)Just wanted to let you know that.
Thanks, narnian, and I see you're brand new here on the DU.. Welcome!
And, HAPPY NEW YEAR2013 in Houston, Texas!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)But, it is what it is and it could be far, far worse.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)I have to say. Obama needs more backbone????????????
Excuse me. President Obama , is the bravest. man. alive.
He, being the first black president, puts his very life on the line each and every day for us. He gets more death threats by far than anyone.
He has been threatened, ridiculed, disrespected, and had basically every kind of dog manure thrown at him possible. And he has handled it all with grace that few could muster under the circumstances.
We are all entitled to our opinions, and mine is directly opposite of yours.
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)...I would love to see him run in 2016. Never seen the man sweat...cool under fire, knowledgeable, charismatic, genuine.
He's a big fucking deal. A true American.
serbbral
(260 posts)are you kidding me with that never seen the man sweat statement? Wow!!!! His temper and passion is one of the things that makes him Joe.
earcandle
(3,622 posts)Happy New Year.
lamp_shade
(14,814 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)How many things has he done for this country and many he had to almost single-handedly fight to accomplish.
He's there for us. Always.
WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,614 posts)Coolest old guy in the business. Like a political Steve McQueen.
Euphoria
(448 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)he wasn't getting anywhere with Reid, so he said, can we get someone we can deal with?
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I love Joe Fucking Biden!
Julie
bowens43
(16,064 posts)the American people got screwed again and Joe helped
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)Joe has always been on our side. While Senator he traveled to and from his office to home by way of public transportation, in other words he IS one of us. Joe is the real deal.
Best Vice President ever.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)But, only if Hillary Clinton does not want the job. If not now, for God's sake, when? Isn't it amazing the amount of smarts and goodness that are in the Democratic Party? Not to mention the good looking men and women.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)I guess Joe Frazier doesn't need the name anymore.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and to this old lady he's HOT!
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)jacket and black turtleneck...some guys just know how to be cool. Jill Biden must be a happy lady...
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)He has the aviator shades on! It's not even sunny in Washington today, but Joe Biden is just THAT cool!
sheshe2
(83,637 posts)Joe deserves the appreciation!
marlakay
(11,424 posts)Most of the time I think he is great. I just wish he would get off the pot is evil drug thing.
Something must have happened to someone he knows who smoked pot for him to take such a strong stance.
jillan
(39,451 posts)turned the spotlight to the President to come out in support.
I don't know what his deal is on pot.
His dad was an alcoholic - maybe that clouds his thinking in some way???
He is so progressive in so many ways, but the "war on drugs" is one area where he has not evolved.
marlakay
(11,424 posts)At it is, some people have addictive personalities and no matter the drink or drugs will misuse.
For every person who is a stoner and doesn't work...I know tons of people who have great jobs and smoke pot on the weekend once in awhile, take or leave it.
For some reason Biden can't see that. He seems convinced by the ones who say it leads to harder drugs.
with big pharma passing out drugs legally to all by the zillions, that are so much worse, I just don't get why he would want to waste tax payer dollars pretending it's a big crime.
Mister Ed
(5,922 posts)I actually thought he was little more than the genial, self-effacing buffoon he often appears to be. I believed that right up until he showed his teeth (literally and figuratively) in last fall's debate performance.
As a supportive spectator, my underestimation of Biden cost me no more than a little chagrin. I almost feel sorry, though, for opponents of his who've made the same miscalculation that I did.
jillan
(39,451 posts)that so far there has been no reports on Joe sticking his foot in his mouth during these meetings on the hill.
Seriously?!?!
Joe Biden is probably the most under appreciated politician there is.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Mdterp01
(144 posts)Joe is the coolest but he also knows politics and is a great Democrat. Love him so much!
ELI BOY 1950
(173 posts)XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)He was coming in.
onecent
(6,096 posts)and about my age...oh tooo dream....lol
michigandem58
(1,044 posts)Just having fun. I agree 100%.
jillan
(39,451 posts)google chrome was happy.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Rather than telling us not to underestimate him, how about reminding people of what he's done in the past.
He's a very good politician, better than the President, IMO, but never forget that his agenda has nothing to do with you.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)As part of the TN party leadership that heard him speak in 2006, the guy fuckin rocks.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)There's not many in our elite Senate Royalty that would commute to work every day on AMTRAK!
A humble and wise man of the people Joe is.
-90% Jimmy
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)There's a good argument to be made that his shellacking of Paul Ryan was a crucial moment in the campaign.
Nobody serves as Senator for 30 plus years without knowing how to get shit done. The whole "Biden's a buffoon" thing is maybe good for the comics and pundits, but it ultimately works to his advantage, when he walks in and liquidates the room.
exxo1111
(55 posts)- Leslie Snopes - Parks and Recreation
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)the enormous sense of relief I felt when he was tapped for VP. He's that rare elected official who wasn't born with any silver spoon in his mouth, yet has the respect of his colleagues.
And would be thrilled if he ran for Pres in 2016 - who could beat him? NO ONE!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Joe is really working that leather jacket and those shades. Joe Cool!
green for victory
(591 posts)"Hate the way federal prosecutors use RICO laws to take aim at drug offenders? Thank Biden. How about the abomination that is federal asset forfeiture laws? Thank Biden. Think federal prosecutors have too much power in drug cases? Thank Biden. Think the title of a Drug Czar is sanctimonious and silly? Thank Biden, who helped create the position (and still considers it an accomplishment worth boasting about).
Tired of the ridiculous steroids hearings in Congress? thank Biden, who led the effort to make steroids a Schedule 3 drug, and has been among the blowhardiest of the blowhards when it comes to sports and performance enhancing drugs. Biden voted in favor of using international development aid for drug control (think plan Columbia, plan Afghanistan, and other meddling anti-drug efforts that have only fostered loathing of America, backlash, and unintended consequences). Oh, and he was also the chief sponsor of 2004s horrendous RAVE Act...
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Bidens record on other criminal justice and civil liberties issues is just as bad. Opponents of the federalization of crime might note that the 1994 crime bill he sponsored created several new federal capital offenses. Biden also wants to expand federal penalties for hate crimes. He supports a federal smoking ban. His position on the federal drinking age is, and I quote, absolutely do not lower it to 18. He believes most violent crime is related to drugs (if he had said drug prohibition, hed be closer to the truth). Biden also has an almost perfect anti-gun voting record. He said last year he favors universal national service, either in the Peace Corps or the military. Sounds like conscription to me. He says hes opposed to the PATRIOT Act, but he voted for both the original bill and its re-authorization in 2005.
Foreign policy? Biden voted for the war on Iraq. Yes, hes opposed to it now (and I like the partition plan he pushed in the primaries). But he didnt vote correctly when it counted most. Biden also voted to send troops into Darfur. He wants to enlarge NATO. He voted in favor of the air strikes in Kosovo (THE FIRST PNAC WAR). He voted to strengthen the trade embargo against Cuba. His seems to be a meddling, interventionist, Clinton-esque foreign policy. His first instinct seems to be that the U.S. militarys objective include some vague notion of doing good in the world. Never mind the disastrous consequences that notion has reaped over the years..."
http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/23/biden/
There's More "Joe Fucking Biden"!
But who is responsible for the administration's decision to prolong and even intensify the drug war, both domestically and abroad?
In a Rolling Stone article published last week, Tim Dickinson quotes a former White House official with intimate knowledge of the matter who claims that Vice President Joe Biden is a prime culprit:
"There are not many friends to legalization in this administration," says Kevin Sabet, director of the Drug Policy Institute at the University of Florida who served the White House as a top adviser on marijuana policy. In fact, the politician who coined the term "drug czar" -- Joe Biden -- continues to guide the administration's hard-line drug policy. "The vice president has a special interest in this issue," Sabet says. "As long as he is vice president, we're very far off from legalization being a reality."
The Huffington Post reached out to Biden's office for comment on Sabet's claim. It denied the request.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11/joe-biden-drug-war_n_2279702.html
Joe Biden has already done plenty to the people of this nation. And if you want legal Cannabis but cheer Joe Biden, well... there's issues...
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davidwparker
(5,397 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hekate
(90,538 posts)I watched him take down some warmonger in a Senate committee hearing about the Iraq war during the Bush Junior administration. Joe leaned across the table and told the guy that he, personally, had a nephew in harm's way, and that he, the Senator and uncle, wanted to know ... etc etc etc. God, I wish I could remember details better, but it seared him into my memory as a man with genuine character, and I loved him.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)!
rocktivity
(44,571 posts)I knew that Joe knew what he needed to do -- and that he would do it. Which he did.
I also said that if Biden wasn't Obama's VP pick, he wasn't really serious about winning.
BFD indeed.
rocktivity
politicasista
(14,128 posts)future SOS against our own and against their staunchest supporters.
And DURec!