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blueclown

(1,869 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:13 AM Jan 2013

Eric Cantor is your new House Speaker.

You can see the writing on the wall.

85 Repukes voted for the bill, 151 voted against.

Boehner voted for the bill, Eric Cantor voted against the bill.

Boehner doesn't have the support of his own caucus anymore. Expect him to be pushed out of his role over the next few days.

Give credit to John Boehner for putting America first, not his party. I think this shows he has a heart. Unfortunately, I don't think we can say the same about Eric Cantor. He is a slimey weasel.

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Eric Cantor is your new House Speaker. (Original Post) blueclown Jan 2013 OP
I hope you're wrong, but ... rustysgurl Jan 2013 #1
+1000 Well said! nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #20
As much as I hate the Orange man, this is best he could have done Blasphemer Jan 2013 #2
Cantor as Speaker will be a disaster for America. jaysunb Jan 2013 #3
Cantor as Speaker in 2013.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #13
BINGO! malz Jan 2013 #36
Agreed but we'd still have to put up with two years of bullshit. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #68
The snake will be forced out from under the rock QED Jan 2013 #34
let his smarminess be the highlight of the House Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #56
No, I think he and the Teaparty idiots are at their zenith and now facing the other side of the hill KittyWampus Jan 2013 #4
I agree n/t livetohike Jan 2013 #51
looks like idiot RedState upset with Ryan cal04 Jan 2013 #5
How many teabaggers are left? The pukes are only up by 20 seats. glowing Jan 2013 #6
Make that 16.5 seats. Convert 17 and Pelosi becomes Speaker! Coyotl Jan 2013 #39
40. Chan790 Jan 2013 #41
The actual vote count is what matters. Subtract 17 from the Rs and add 17 to the Ds and Coyotl Jan 2013 #43
I know. Chan790 Jan 2013 #50
Slimey weasel GP6971 Jan 2013 #7
And offensive to slimey weasels! jberryhill Jan 2013 #12
Don't be so fast... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #8
Eric Cantor owns stock shorting America. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #9
there could have been a back room deal with Pelosi RomneyLies Jan 2013 #10
I'd want a little more than that... Chan790 Jan 2013 #42
Bring it on...lance the boil... 2 years of total bullshit from the House followed by pkdu Jan 2013 #11
... madamesilverspurs Jan 2013 #14
How does voting for Speaker work? Silent3 Jan 2013 #15
It is a simple majority vote of *all* Members. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #16
Couldn't the Dems nominate a moderate Republican ramblin_dave Jan 2013 #19
Sure. I guess they could. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #22
Even though I know it's just a naive pipe dream... Silent3 Jan 2013 #25
"The speaker need not be a Member!" Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #46
I don't think it has ever been done, but it *is* possible. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #48
I see an opening for Grover mick063 Jan 2013 #54
I just read up on it on Wiki Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #65
Maybe the Dems and sane Republicans can get together and... Odin2005 Jan 2013 #17
Pelosi would have to switch parties to be the Majority Leader. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #21
facepalm TeamPooka Jan 2013 #30
I don't think so. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #18
Cantor will NOT get the 217 votes needed to become speaker. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #23
Eric Cantor Speaker? The Likud would be two heartbeats away from the Presidency! FarCenter Jan 2013 #24
Wow. That's quite an anti-Semitic post, isn't it?... SidDithers Jan 2013 #38
That's not at all what was said, you inferred it. MNBrewer Jan 2013 #47
I don't understand how people leap to antisemitism. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #57
Rep. Eric Cantor Tells Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu: New GOP Majority Will 'Serve As A Check On The A FarCenter Jan 2013 #59
I think you just made an anti Semitic post. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #49
You told the truth about him! AntiSEMITISM!!1111 LittleBlue Jan 2013 #67
What a terrible thing to say about weasels. Jack Rabbit Jan 2013 #26
As I said in another post...Eric Cantor has struck. YayArea Jan 2013 #27
OR OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #28
Oh please no!!! Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #29
Cantor as speaker Turbineguy Jan 2013 #31
DU has been predicting that for at least 2yrs SmileyRose Jan 2013 #32
Yeah, I'm gonna put my faith in Republican bigotry. aquart Jan 2013 #33
McCarthy then? blueclown Jan 2013 #35
Exactly. The Tin Foil Hat Crew would never let that happen. timesamillion Jan 2013 #63
gamez going on here.... JCMach1 Jan 2013 #37
How did weasels get such a bad image??? :( reformist2 Jan 2013 #40
aww! Eric Cantor is NOT a weasel. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #66
Isn't Speaker elected by a majority of the whole House? sadbear Jan 2013 #44
Josh Marshall's spider-sense is tingling.... sofa king Jan 2013 #45
Bunch of rich people selecting the figure head of the rich. L0oniX Jan 2013 #52
What is wrote on the wall is that Cantor just lost, just got totally ignored. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #53
Boehner was done when Plan B was rejected. Cantor was all smiles after that. MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #55
Cantor makes my skin crawl. we tried to oust him in VA, but failed. williesgirl Jan 2013 #58
a new Congress is coming in. Not necessarily still_one Jan 2013 #60
Look at that smirk... NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #61
Bring him on! toddwv Jan 2013 #62
More gridlock fadedrose Jan 2013 #64
Eric Slmeweasel Cantor libodem Jan 2013 #69
Well, I was wrong. blueclown Jan 2013 #70
Kudos for admitting it nt One of the 99 Jan 2013 #71

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
1. I hope you're wrong, but ...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jan 2013

You're probably right. And if Eric Cantor is voted House Speaker then I fear for this country. How his constituents can re-elect him is beyond me. Calling him a slimy weasel is an insult to slimy weasels everywhere.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
2. As much as I hate the Orange man, this is best he could have done
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jan 2013

And if he loses the Speakership then it was lost as soon as the election ended. He was never going to get majority support for any compromise bill. Impossible.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
3. Cantor as Speaker will be a disaster for America.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jan 2013

We will see 2 full years of absolutely NOTHING getting done.

QED

(2,747 posts)
34. The snake will be forced out from under the rock
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:28 AM
Jan 2013

he won't be able to hide behind Boehner anymore. His exposure will doom him. While Boehner is/was a cartoon, Cantor will reveal the true face of the tea party and demonstrate what they really have in store for the nation. It will be their last stand.

cal04

(41,505 posts)
5. looks like idiot RedState upset with Ryan
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jan 2013

Thus ends the Paul Ryan 2016 Presidential Exploratory Committee.
Erick Erickson ?@EWErickson

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
39. Make that 16.5 seats. Convert 17 and Pelosi becomes Speaker!
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jan 2013

Which seems like a good idea at this time. Who are those 17 possibles?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results/house

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
41. 40.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jan 2013

Always seriously target twice what you need to pick up, then a handful more for good measure.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
43. The actual vote count is what matters. Subtract 17 from the Rs and add 17 to the Ds and
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jan 2013

it's a done deal.

Just like stealing votes in Ohio, for every Kerry vote switched to Bush, the margin changed by two votes!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
50. I know.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jan 2013

But you won't pick up every one you make a concerted effort to take...and taking more gives you a margin for defections. Hence, target 40, not 17.

Target 17 and you'll be ruing the fact that +1 is not enough to get anything done.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
8. Don't be so fast...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jan 2013

remember there is a new Congress as of this week.

The House will still be dominated by conservative pukes but the composition is different. Gone are West of Florida and Walsh of Illinois.

While there may be a shake-up in House leadership, I'm not about to count Boehner out.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
10. there could have been a back room deal with Pelosi
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jan 2013

She delivers the votes he needs to retain the Speaker's gavel if he brings the bill to the floor for an up or down vote.

That is entirely within the realm of possibility. Putting the Blue Dog Caucus out there to vote for Boehner would be a bone to the guy to keep him moving in the direction of getting bills with bipartisan support through the House.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
42. I'd want a little more than that...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jan 2013

if we're going to pull those kinds of shenanigans...look to the NY Assembly for the parameters of such a deal. I'd want some rules consideration and fairly-substantial legislation promised an up-or-down on the floor.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
11. Bring it on...lance the boil... 2 years of total bullshit from the House followed by
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jan 2013

a mass-firing of Teabagger congress-critters in 2014

Silent3

(15,119 posts)
15. How does voting for Speaker work?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:20 AM
Jan 2013

Whoever gets the majority vote of the majority party, without minority party votes mattering at all?

Or could Democrats hold their noses and vote for Boehner as speaker along with a minority of Republicans, and keep Cantor or some other Tea Partier out?

Stinky The Clown

(67,750 posts)
16. It is a simple majority vote of *all* Members.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

Each party puts up a candidate. The entire House votes. Simple majority takes the win.

By the way, an interesting aside: The speaker need not be a Member!

Silent3

(15,119 posts)
25. Even though I know it's just a naive pipe dream...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jan 2013

...I keep hoping a coalition of the majority of Democrats and a few of the more moderate Republicans could get behind one Speaker (almost certainly a Republican, probably Boehner) and we could have the House run that way on a routine basis, rather than having such a coalition be a rare, temporary thing like we got tonight.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
65. I just read up on it on Wiki
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jan 2013

Some fascinating Speaker elections but none listed there where a non-member was nominated.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
17. Maybe the Dems and sane Republicans can get together and...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jan 2013

...make a moderate Repub the Speaker and Pelosi the Majority Leader?

Stinky The Clown

(67,750 posts)
18. I don't think so.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jan 2013

I think Boner will keep it.

He could strengthen his hand by wooing some Democrats, too, with some industrial strength bipartisanship.

An *exceedingly* long long shot is the reverse: Speaker Pelosi.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
38. Wow. That's quite an anti-Semitic post, isn't it?...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:29 AM
Jan 2013

You think that just because Cantor is Jewish, he's controlled by Likud?

Ugly post.

Sid

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
57. I don't understand how people leap to antisemitism.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jan 2013

Not all Jews support right-wing politics. If one is criticized
for doing so, all we hear are cries of antisemitism, which is
a false kneejerk emotional and non-rational assumption.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/04/201141611819193138.html

Leave it to House majority leader Eric Cantor (R-VA). With president Barack Obama expected to deliver a major speech outlining a new (or, at least, revised) Middle East peace strategy soon, Cantor decided it was time to invite Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu to deliver a speech before a joint session of Congress.

This is one of the benefits of having a Republican House at the same time that a Likud prime minister is in office in Israel: the two right-wing parties can work together to thwart any Democratic president's attempt to advance US national security by brokering Middle East peace.
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
59. Rep. Eric Cantor Tells Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu: New GOP Majority Will 'Serve As A Check On The A
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013
Rep. Eric Cantor Tells Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu: New GOP Majority Will 'Serve As A Check On The Administration'

NEW YORK -- Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday during a meeting in New York that the new GOP majority in the House will "serve as a check" on the Obama administration, a statement unusual for its blunt disagreement with U.S. policy delivered directly to a foreign leader.

"Eric stressed that the new Republican majority will serve as a check on the Administration and what has been, up until this point, one party rule in Washington," read a statement from Cantor's office on the one-on-one meeting. "He made clear that the Republican majority understands the special relationship between Israel and the United States, and that the security of each nation is reliant upon the other."

Cantor also took issue with Obama administration policies in other areas, including Iran, with the statement from his office saying the congressman "believes that it is time for the administration to fully and aggressively implement the Iran Sanctions Act passed by Congress earlier this year."

Ron Kampeas from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency news agency found Cantor's comments extremely surprising, writing, "I can't remember an opposition leader telling a foreign leader, in a personal meeting, that he would side, as a policy, with that leader against the president. Certainly, in statements on one specific issue or another -- building in Jerusalem, or somesuch -- lawmakers have taken the sides of other nations. But to have-a-face to face and say, in general, we will take your side against the White House -- that sounds to me extraordinary."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/eric-cantor-benjamin-netanyahu-israel_n_782738.html

YayArea

(71 posts)
27. As I said in another post...Eric Cantor has struck.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jan 2013

And the knife comes out...in poor old Boehner's back.

Medics are currently treating the wound with suntan lotion and Jack Daniels.

More details from hospital to be released soon....

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
28. OR
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:08 AM - Edit history (1)

20-25 of those 85 Republicans will see what side their bread is buttered on, and join in a coalition to put a conservative Dem into the speakership in exchange for really sweet committee assignments.

Those 85 are smarter than the 151 that stood with Cantor. The American electorate has had it with gridlock, and there is no way a no-vote on a bill that passed the Senate with 89 votes would be received well by mainstream voters.

If the GOP were smart, they would not elect Cantor or Boehner as speaker. They'd go a whole new direction, and install either Ileana Ros-Lehtinen or Mario Diaz-Balart in the speakership. It'd be a good time to put someone in leadership who's a little more moderate while reaching out to Latinos. It wouldn't hurt their reputation in Florida either.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
33. Yeah, I'm gonna put my faith in Republican bigotry.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:22 AM
Jan 2013

They may well dump Boehner. But Cantor? Secondary post sure. But top dog in the House? The Jewish kid? Not buying it.

timesamillion

(31 posts)
63. Exactly. The Tin Foil Hat Crew would never let that happen.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jan 2013

And the Republicans need the paranoid extremists to vote with them or else the party will be too little to function.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
37. gamez going on here....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:41 AM
Jan 2013

Would Dems vote Boehner over Cantor just to deep six that douchebag.

My spidersense tells me Cantor is the one who is done.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
44. Isn't Speaker elected by a majority of the whole House?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

Can House Democrats form a coalition with Boner republicans and keep the teabaggers from electing Cantor? (Of course, a Cantor Speakership will definitely usher in a Democratic majority in 2014.)

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
45. Josh Marshall's spider-sense is tingling....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jan 2013
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/01/buying_on_installment.php?ref=fpblg

It is almost as though Cantor is plotting or hatching or just purchasing his coup on layaway.

Cantor is beginning to remind me a lot of Dan Sickles, also a ruthless, plotting, remorseless, boundlessly ambitious and thoroughly corrupted person.

That suggests to me that Cantor will only be permitted to rise as high as his past indiscretions permit. Whatever they are. We have yet to learn the best of them, publicly.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
62. Bring him on!
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jan 2013

This is the same reason I wanted Santorum to win the Republican nomination. If one thing came out of the past election, it's that the more the craziest of their ilk talk, the more that the farthest of the right-wing speak their mind, the less the American People like them.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
64. More gridlock
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jan 2013

He won't get the support of the Boener people or Nancy's people, so I hope he doesn't want to pass a bill or an amendment.

I get chills when I look at him. He's a total creep and I think he's possessed (something I don't believe in except in this case).

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