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MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:01 AM Jan 2013

Yesterday's Accomplishments - The Visible is Less Important than the Invisible

Something happened yesterday in Congress. It had some marginal effect on the economy, and a few things got tidied up that really needed to be tidied up. Most people are focused on the end of the Bush Tax Cuts for those earning over $400K or $450K. That's a nice thing, as is the extension of those tax cuts permanently to everone else, or at least as permanently as anything Congress does can be.

Other good things that needed doing, like extending unemployment compensation, fixing a stupid milk pricing deal that should have been fixed long ago, and other stuff was also part of yesterday's passage of what came to be known as the "fiscal cliff" bill. Nice.

But, some more important things happened yesterday, and in the days leading up to yesterday, and they aren't going to get talked about as much right now:

1. President Obama, after winning a second term as President, backed down Boehner, shrugged his shoulders at Congressman Cantor and his Tea Party cohorts, and essentially said to the Republican leadership, "You may have a majority in the House, but you've lost anyhow. Let me show you what happens when you push public opinion beyond the breaking point. You don't get to dictate terms in my second term. Let's just see how many Republican Congress members vote for this little package of stuff that needs to be done. After you see that, you'll be clearer on what I'm talking about."

2. The Republican Party lost all semblance of universal discipline within its own caucuses in the House and Senate. Grover Norquist and the Tea Party's ability to dictate to Republican legislators is sharply diminished after yesterday. This is huge. Without that ability, Senators and House members whose names you probably don't even know will again be able to vote in ways that actually benefit and respond to the needs of their constituents, rather than voting only as they are told to vote. The fear of retaliation by their own party is diminished. Not gone, but diminished.

3. Election of the House Speaker is the first order of business on Thursday. With Boehner having soiled himself repeatedly in recent weeks, and Cantor's temper tantrums resulting in absolutely nothing, it is unclear who will become the Speaker at this point. In fact, the very idea that it is unclear is evidence of how much damage the GOP has done to itself over the past several years.

4. In the Senate, a change in the filibuster rule can be put in place on Thursday that could end the ability of the minority party to block action on legislation and appointments that actually have majority support and would pass. It's not certain that this will happen, but yesterday's actions make it more likely, I believe. If this happens, judicial appointments will clear faster, and needed legislation can move more smoothly toward the President's desk.

5. President Obama can count coup in several areas over what has happened. Leading toward the SOTU coming up, we should see movement in leadership in a number of areas, culminating in a powerful and popular call to action when he addresses the Congress. Watch for it. Momentum is building, and will continue, while the GOP is still attending to its wounds and trying to recover from what just happened to them.

All my opinion, of course. It's going to be interesting.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
1. After McCain/Palin, Romney/Ryan and Karl Rove's spectacular failures...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jan 2013

...it should be no surprise that the rest of the GOP is falling to pieces. Like a long-neglected bridge, they are crumbling before our eyes. It's a beautiful thing to watch.

When it actually falls, everyone will look around and say, "Now how did THAT happen?"

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
2. Yup. And President Obama is there to step in.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jan 2013

I've enjoyed watching this play out as the year came to an end. It's been educational.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. I've been following Booman's theory about 'breaking the back of Norquist'
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:16 AM
Jan 2013

being an overriding priority - which sounds pretty similar to (2).

I've been told we ought to expect some non-zero cuts to entitlements, and that we ought not to be too upset about it:

The key here is the word "revenues." Don't think for a moment that entitlements will be off the table. They won't, and they never were going to be off the table. What the president is saying is that we are not done trimming the hair of the rich, and that is going to be the price for any cuts in entitlements. So, if you are an entitlement absolutist, you are going to be disappointed. Probably, you are going to be angry. But the president needs more revenue and the only way to get it is as part of a deal that is balanced. He couldn't force the Republicans to acknowledge that this time around, but their will and unity has now been broken.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/1/2/93230/97405


On the other hand, I don't quite get why we have to give ground on this at all, if the GOP/Norquist "will and unity has now been broken."

I also don't at all like his use of the word 'balanced.' It might be a 'necessary evil.' There's nothing 'balanced' about it. Entitlements ought to all be increased, not cut.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. 'Entitlements ought to all be increased, not cut.' Absolutely.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jan 2013

We should be making life BETTER for all of us, not trying to keep things the same.

As for giving ground, we may not really know the price of going over the 'fiscal cliff' without a deal having been made. There seemed to be some urgency from Obama that this should NOT happen. I would lean toward trusting him on that.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
6. "Balanced" is a funny word.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jan 2013

Everyone seems to use it, but each seems to think it means something different. It's a very flexible word.

What I'm doing is watching closely to see what actually emerges, rather than how people are predicting things will emerge. It's often somewhat different.

I'm reminded of how neatly the repeal of DADT was slipped into the mix in the height of another big end-of-the-year "crisis" situation.

Norquist and his ilk haven't had their backs broken yet, but they're hobbling in bit with the old lumbago. Keep an eye on the edges of things over the next couple of months. Politics is a long game, not a short one. Obama's got good long game skills.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
4. A totally dysfunctional House still managed to clean Obama's clock
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jan 2013

God help us if they ever get their act together.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Yup, they loved extending unemployment and the EITC for
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jan 2013

"A totally dysfunctional House still managed to clean Obama's clock"

....no spending cuts. All is not well in GOP land

GOP Rep. On Fiscal Cliff Deal: ‘We Got Whooped’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022116366

One only has to go to Redstate to see who won
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022115435

Intra-party Spat Leads GOP to Cancel Sandy Relief Vote -- Live Updated Reactions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022115410

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
8. Psst...look over there...not here...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jan 2013

Pleeeeease....

Ladeees & Genemens! - Keep your eyes on the center ring, where our virile young horsemaster Eric Cantor daintily maneuvers his high-stepping steeds around those comical lumbering pachyderms under the direction of our soon-to-be-retiring elephant handler John Boehner. You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll wet your pants!
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
9. Traded TEMPORARY unemployment relief for PERMANENT Bush tax cuts
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jan 2013

This is a deal Grover Norquist will take every day of the week.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
15. It is until we can retake the House
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jan 2013

And that seems to be very unlikely until we can take back Governorships and State Legislatures, and go through another census followed by redistricting.

In others words, it is very unlikely we will take the House until 2022 or 2024, and that is if we really get busy. The Party just doesn't seem all that interested in doing it. When Dean was chair, he was all over that. When Obama took over, he essentially dismantled the state operations and set up his own campaign system. Worked great for getting Obama elected, but it sucks for all the down ticket races.

And the numbers are against us again in the Senate in 2014. It is very possible that the GOP will take over the Senate in 2014.

Look at that grab bag of wonky adjustments passed yesterday. Tell me what Democrats stand for. If our Party doesn't do a much better job of actually standing up for a set of principles, we are going nowhere.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Yep, the dam is busted. It's going to be interesting.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jan 2013

"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." -- Conan

(Apologies to the Ladies.)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. i disagree
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jan 2013

I think the good things are the visible things you mention such as unemployment benefits, and I would add other stimulative measures such as the Earned Income Tax credit.

The tax cuts up to 250,000 are Obama's long-time campaign promise.

Everything else is concessions, that's all.

Regarding the invisible stuff, forget about it, not interested.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
14. "attending to its wounds and trying to recover from what just happened to them."
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jan 2013

Yeah... they look a little bit like those Sandy relief victims they were just so busy screwing over.

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