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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:36 PM Jan 2013

Ask Amy: Conservative husband mocks, criticizes liberal wife

By Amy Dickinson, Published: December 31

DEAR AMY: I would like your advice on how to handle a growing problem in my marriage. My husband has become increasingly conservative politically. He has moved away from formerly moderate views and is now very right wing.

A recent poll he took ranked him in the most conservative 9 percent of people in the country. I have been a lifelong Democrat and continue to support liberal viewpoints. This has resulted in some heated arguments between us.


My husband claims that if I don’t agree with him it’s because I’m not listening. He refuses to acknowledge any validity to my opinions. He criticizes and mocks any Democratic politician or supporter. In the heat of an argument, he has said that if I can’t agree with him, we should just get divorced.

I even voted for Mitt Romney in November to avoid a fight, not because I supported him for president. How can I resolve this? Can Democrats and Republicans have a happy relationship? -- Democrat in Hiding


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Ask Amy: Conservative husband mocks, criticizes liberal wife (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2013 OP
How was he going to know who she voted for? upaloopa Jan 2013 #1
based on how she descibes him i'm pretty sure he checked her ballot JI7 Jan 2013 #9
Well here where I live no one else can go in the voting booth with you. If you need help southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #28
i was assuming she voted absentee since i usually do JI7 Jan 2013 #32
Oh you might be right. But she could vote when he wasn't around. I think she should southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #33
My first thought exactly! He can't go into the LibGranny Jan 2013 #11
In some states he can, or he might have insisted that he look at her ballot. yardwork Jan 2013 #22
That would be the last time that happened! LibGranny Jan 2013 #30
Yeah, me too! I wouldn't be writing to a newspaper advice columnist. yardwork Jan 2013 #34
If They Live in Oregon or Washington or any other Vote by Mail States dballance Jan 2013 #38
My sister and her husband are Republicans, but she voted for Obama. RebelOne Jan 2013 #26
Good for you! I'm very impressed with people who have the patience to explain and persuade. yardwork Jan 2013 #35
Mary Matalin and James Carver seem to keep it together rightsideout Jan 2013 #2
they consider each other equals , Carville is also the liberal JI7 Jan 2013 #6
Is that Cantor's wife? Mass Jan 2013 #3
Amy gave good advice Warpy Jan 2013 #4
I agree Tempest Jan 2013 #10
Or Laura Bush TDale313 Jan 2013 #5
W didn't really care if Laura had liberal views JI7 Jan 2013 #8
My mom...repub, my dad...dem... cynatnite Jan 2013 #7
Same here Tempest Jan 2013 #12
Life is short... Phentex Jan 2013 #13
The day my husband bullied me into voting for someone he knew I didn't want to vote for gollygee Jan 2013 #14
For sure...how would he even know who she voted for...It is a private privilege... Tikki Jan 2013 #16
If he does not respect you, he is not worth having. Politics be damned. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #15
Walk out, before she get's carried out. EOM TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #17
Yes. Sounds like a homicide in the making to me. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #20
amy, amy, amy.... shanti Jan 2013 #18
It's pretty dumb either way... Phentex Jan 2013 #29
That woman need to get out of that marriage now. If her husband can't respect her views, bluestate10 Jan 2013 #19
I totally blew up at my Republican, Faux watching husband HockeyMom Jan 2013 #23
In the heat of an argument, he has said that if I can’t agree with him, we should just get divorced. abelenkpe Jan 2013 #21
I used to be married to Scrooge. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #24
OMG. Run, don't walk away from the MF'er. mainer Jan 2013 #25
DTMFA Salviati Jan 2013 #27
She should take Tammy Wynette's advice instead Bucky Jan 2013 #31
DTMFA. JoeyT Jan 2013 #36
This sounds like an abusive relationship to me. Iris Jan 2013 #37
I would be willing to bet that is not the only facet of her life he is determined to control. UtahLib Jan 2013 #39

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. How was he going to know who she voted for?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jan 2013

If he is that controlling I'd tell him to back off or move in with the dog!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
28. Well here where I live no one else can go in the voting booth with you. If you need help
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

then when you check in you tell them and the person you want to help you has to sign in with you. But if I were with him I'd keep my mouth shut and vote for who I wanted to and I then would lie to him. But if it is as bad as she says I would tell her to say no more political talks in the house. Keep to it. If he continues get up and walk away and ignore him.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
32. i was assuming she voted absentee since i usually do
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jan 2013

but maybe she has a problem with being dishonest even in cases like this where it's justified.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
33. Oh you might be right. But she could vote when he wasn't around. I think she should
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:23 PM
Jan 2013

throw in the towel if he is this controlling.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
22. In some states he can, or he might have insisted that he look at her ballot.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 2013

In North Carolina, husbands and wives used to be able to go into the voting booth together. I don't know if this has been changed or not. I remember seeing it happen in the 1980s.

Even where it is not legal to go into the voting booth with a spouse, controlling spouses could insist on seeing their partner's ballots, or even fill out their partner's ballots and force their partner to sign. Based on the rest of the woman's letter, I'd say her husband made sure that she voted for Romney. She didn't have the opportunity to cast a secret ballot.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
38. If They Live in Oregon or Washington or any other Vote by Mail States
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jan 2013

or if they voted absentee it would be very easy for him to review her ballot. Not that it's proper at all of course.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
26. My sister and her husband are Republicans, but she voted for Obama.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jan 2013

He hates Obama and was shocked that she voted for him. He can thank me for that as I told her the pros and cons of voting for Obama or Romney.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
2. Mary Matalin and James Carver seem to keep it together
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jan 2013

I'm still trying to figure out how that works. Must make for some interesting family debates but they get paid for their opinions.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
6. they consider each other equals , Carville is also the liberal
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jan 2013

so they avoid the issue of "idiot man controls the house" right wing crap.

the problem in this marriage is not the views as much as the guy having control issues. divorce would be good for her.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
8. W didn't really care if Laura had liberal views
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jan 2013

even the idiot himself didn't really have any views of his own.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
7. My mom...repub, my dad...dem...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jan 2013

They had a long and happy marriage. Politics wasn't high up on the list for them. They got along great.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
12. Same here
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

Dad was Archie Bunker (in every way and then some) and mom is a left leaning Republican.

They had their battles, but they stayed together until his death.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
14. The day my husband bullied me into voting for someone he knew I didn't want to vote for
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

would be the day I called a lawyer. Holy cow.

Yes they can have a happy relationship, but both have to be respectful, and that isn't happening here.

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
16. For sure...how would he even know who she voted for...It is a private privilege...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jan 2013

Maybe she just told him she voted for robme to try to keep the peace.

Her husband sounds like he might have depression.


Tikki

shanti

(21,675 posts)
18. amy, amy, amy....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jan 2013

you didn't HAVE to vote for romney, or is your hubs in the voting booth with you???

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
29. It's pretty dumb either way...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013

IF she really voted for Romney, then she was an idiot. If she didn't, she was an idiot for telling her husband she did. No one HAD to vote for Romney, lol.




bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
19. That woman need to get out of that marriage now. If her husband can't respect her views,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jan 2013

he doesn't respect her.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
23. I totally blew up at my Republican, Faux watching husband
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jan 2013

who has gotten more and more "conservative" in the 38 years we have been married. Right before the election, he started on me about voting for Obama. It takes a lot, but when I get angry, I REALLY get angry. I am an adult, and as such, have a right to vote for WHOEVER I so choose. Do I have that right as an AMERICAN CITIZEN? "Yes". Are you going to try and STOP me, which is ILLEGAL? "No". He just stood there staring at me for all his previous bravado.

He hasn't watched Faux since a month before the election, and has not said one single word about Obama and Democrats to me ever since my blow up, and Obama WON.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
21. In the heat of an argument, he has said that if I can’t agree with him, we should just get divorced.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jan 2013

Divorce would be my advice. Who wants to live with a bully?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
24. I used to be married to Scrooge.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

He was a conservative and an atheist.

I had no problem with the atheism.

He told me that women don't know anything about politics, and vote for the best-looking guy. This was in the 80s when we were supposed to vote for Dan Quayle for VP because he was allegedly "cute".

That marriage didn't last long.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
36. DTMFA.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jan 2013

If he's that controlling and that angry, sooner or later he's going to punch you and insist you "made" him do it. If you weren't afraid, you wouldn't have voted for a candidate you hated. DTMFA: Dump that motherfucker already. Preferably before he makes the leap from emotional abuse into physical.

Edited to add: And for the love of pete, lady, don't tell him you're going to do it in advance. Let him come home to an empty house. The "My way or the highway" comment was meant to either cow you or give him a justification for hitting you. Bail out and bail out now.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
39. I would be willing to bet that is not the only facet of her life he is determined to control.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jan 2013

Absolute control is the platform from which he will become more and more abusive. In my opinion, she should seek one on one advice from a professional before it's too late.

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