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great Steubenville rape crew protest pic ( (Original Post) eShirl Jan 2013 OP
I agree; that's a great picture. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #1
A grand jury and a good federal prosecutor is the best way to get all the facts hrvatska Jan 2013 #18
You certainly understand how small towns work. n/t murielm99 Jan 2013 #20
Problem with that is that they can't bring in a federal prosecutor The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #21
There seem to be a lot of photos of naked underage girls floating around. yardwork Jan 2013 #39
If that's the case then there might be a federal child porn charge. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #41
None of the authorities have mentioned this, but the state of Ohio says they are still investigating yardwork Jan 2013 #44
The victim was transported across state lines to WVa... She was a minor, I think this also raises it peacebird Jan 2013 #42
There we go! Bring in the feds! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #43
Civil rights violation The Wizard Jan 2013 #50
Still the same goblue316 Jan 2013 #22
exactly. riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #46
It is my hometown... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #24
I'm so sorry, my dear awoke_in_2003... CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #25
Yeah, I know... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #29
And Dean Martin, which is its one saving grace. Efilroft Sul Jan 2013 #61
Yeah, I forgot about Deano. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #69
Thank you so much for posting this! etherealtruth Jan 2013 #2
K&R. nt DLevine Jan 2013 #3
k and r niyad Jan 2013 #4
Nice tavalon Jan 2013 #5
+1 freshwest Jan 2013 #8
Everyone should work to end rape. Men especially should make it clear to other men rhett o rick Jan 2013 #15
yep. +100000000000. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #36
I saw some videos from Occupy Steubenville yesterday lunatica Jan 2013 #6
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #7
K & R. historylovr Jan 2013 #9
recommended and for other old foggies here is a link to Dubstep grantcart Jan 2013 #10
I love this, how beautiful Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #13
Coolest Tai Chi form ever! RVN VET Jan 2013 #16
I am heaven05 Jan 2013 #26
Oh! Like Jamiroquai. Iggo Jan 2013 #30
. ReRe Jan 2013 #57
. Iggo Jan 2013 #60
OMG. that is beautiful! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #32
Looks like moves Michael Jackson would have made. RebelOne Jan 2013 #38
Thanks for posting that, Grantcart. yardwork Jan 2013 #40
Nice moves, but what does this have to do with the topic? Alameda Jan 2013 #45
the sign says "some of us like dubstep" Lordquinton Jan 2013 #49
K&R for the OP and for that link in post #10. thanks, grantcart. sublime. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #47
Dubstep is the musical style, not the dance. Brickbat Jan 2013 #51
I liked that way too much. I've seen it before, but not like that. tridim Jan 2013 #52
I've never heard of pumped up kicks, but the picture on the poster is Skrillex. JoeyT Jan 2013 #54
Puts me in mind of Marcel Marceau on LSD... countryjake Jan 2013 #59
hahahahaha "We're from the Internet" Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #11
Nice! ellie Jan 2013 #12
Nice! - K&R - nt Ohio Joe Jan 2013 #14
I think if we shamed.. one_voice Jan 2013 #17
god yes...What you said BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #34
K&R Whisp Jan 2013 #19
Fuck I'm old hootinholler Jan 2013 #23
You're not missing anything arcane1 Jan 2013 #27
See libodem Jan 2013 #28
dubstepping kids better get off of your lawn! LOL bettyellen Jan 2013 #37
. ReRe Jan 2013 #58
another rec and kick. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #31
Great sign. Outstanding message. Except ... DreamGypsy Jan 2013 #33
Another PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #35
amen to this one. thanks, PeaceNikki for posting it. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #48
I pray that one day anti-rape activists won't have to wear masks Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #53
Anonymous initially used the VFV Guy Fawkes mask to avoid reprisals Norrin Radd Jan 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #56
Don't worry, I'll leave quietly. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #64
you'll be back CreekDog Jan 2013 #67
. Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #66
And Dreamer Tatum is your real name? Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #68
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jan 2013 #63
K&R! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #65

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,584 posts)
1. I agree; that's a great picture.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jan 2013

The national spotlight is on this little town. Maybe all the attention will help get the facts out...

hrvatska

(2 posts)
18. A grand jury and a good federal prosecutor is the best way to get all the facts
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jan 2013

The town is not going to change just because it's getting some bad publicity. The local people will circle the wagons and the interlocking clique of local officials and small business owners who run things in Steubenville will intimidate any local who might want to make noise about this. What will get the facts out is a federal prosecutor with no local connections who can bring intense pressure on the people involved. Once one person cracks and is willing to testify the rest will fall like dominoes. Once people start testifying because they know they've been implicated by someone else, no one is going to want to find out that they didn't cut a deal when they still had a chance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
21. Problem with that is that they can't bring in a federal prosecutor
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jan 2013

unless they can establish federal jurisdiction over the crime, and rape is generally a state crime. If the victim was taken across state lines, for example, the feds could get involved. Otherwise the state/local people will have the case - unfortunately.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
39. There seem to be a lot of photos of naked underage girls floating around.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jan 2013

There are photos of seemingly underage girls on one of the football booster's blog. It looks like the photos were taken through peepholes in the high school girl's bathroom. Possession of photos of child pornography is a federal matter. Possession of photos of underage girls being raped - which existed according to the grand jury testimony of witnesses for the prosecution, per newspaper articles - would be a federal matter.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
41. If that's the case then there might be a federal child porn charge.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jan 2013

And that would confer federal jurisdiction. I hope so! Looks like the locals won't do what they should be doing.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
44. None of the authorities have mentioned this, but the state of Ohio says they are still investigating
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jan 2013

They should take a close look at that guy's blog. I'm not going to link it because it contains names and email addresses of underage girls.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
42. The victim was transported across state lines to WVa... She was a minor, I think this also raises it
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

to Fed jurisdiction....

goblue316

(69 posts)
22. Still the same
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

I lived in this county my whole life and things have not changed and it has always been corrupt. The sherrif's brother is a drug dealer the other is a bookie. Drugs run rampant in the cities in this county and everyone knows who the drug dealers are and they go left untouched. The old saying was if you want to get away with murder move to Jefferson County and that is still the same. This case will never be prosecuted correctly unless it is taken out of everyone ones hands from this county. The feds need to come in and deal with it. I left this county for a reason and I have no desire to ever go back.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
46. exactly.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jan 2013

The BCI who came in to investigate another case....his son got a job in the Steubenville police force.....

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
2. Thank you so much for posting this!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jan 2013

There is nothing more to say, but (in addition to "rec"ing this) I wanted to give it a kick

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
5. Nice
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jan 2013

Looks to be a guy behind that mask, not that that should matter. All people with a heart are against the rape crew.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Everyone should work to end rape. Men especially should make it clear to other men
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jan 2013

that rape isnt cool, and clearly isnt acceptable.

I appeal to those men that mistakenly think they are tougher than women, "if you think that you are tougher than women, then you should also think you have a responsibility to protect them." It would be better if you would recognize that women are as tough as men and IMO, in many ways a lot tougher. Men should respect women and respect their right to be free from rape and free from the fear of rape.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I saw some videos from Occupy Steubenville yesterday
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013

I hope the rape victim and her family get a large dose of healing from knowing the world outside their town cares deeply about what happened to her.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
16. Coolest Tai Chi form ever!
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jan 2013

This is what humans can do when they're not busy raping and killing and hurting one another.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
52. I liked that way too much. I've seen it before, but not like that.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jan 2013

I thought "dubstep" was a music style.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
59. Puts me in mind of Marcel Marceau on LSD...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:02 AM
Jan 2013

Very cool, thanks grantcart! This old fogy appreciates your effort to inform, ha.

Now I'm off to google arrested development.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
17. I think if we shamed..
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jan 2013

rapist the way victims are (at least in some cases attempted) shamed we may see some progress. Protests at every rape trial. Maybe, who knows.

I remember reading a story where a rapist was sentenced to 8 years in prison for raping a 8 year old girl--more than once. It was at the same time that Jim Bakker was sentenced to 45 years in prison. I know I couldn't be the only one that sees something wrong with that.

K&R

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
34. god yes...What you said
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jan 2013

Everyone knows that without consequences, destructive behavior spirals out of control.

But rape cultures show their concern is for the male perpetrators; the female victims are blamed and shamed.

It's about fucking time Justice got its fucking priorities straight.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. You're not missing anything
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jan 2013

It's crappy electronic music, with the distinct innovation of being slightly slower than normal crappy electronic music

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
33. Great sign. Outstanding message. Except ...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jan 2013

... it could be construed as saying there is someone 'from' the internet who DOESN'T love Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

Norrin Radd

(4,959 posts)
55. Anonymous initially used the VFV Guy Fawkes mask to avoid reprisals
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:24 AM
Jan 2013

from Scientology, but now the mask is recognized and utilized as a method to keep the focus on the message instead of the identity and ego of the individual protestor.

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #53)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
67. you'll be back
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jan 2013

you dislike us too much to stay away.

why else would you come back on the day of the Newtown massacre to defend guns and then raise concern about the Ohio rapes.

Response to eShirl (Original post)

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