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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf someone from the 1950s suddenly appeared, what would be the mot difficult thing to explain?
Ha!
I can haz kitteh pictures?
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)would be hard to explain. We were always promised Flying Cars.
theKed
(1,235 posts)m.youtube.com/watch?client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=CA&v=vzm6pvHPSGo&fulldescription=1
SugarShack
(1,635 posts)hunter
(38,309 posts)Personally, I'm glad we don't have flying cars. I don't want idiot or intoxicated drivers and their victims raining down on my roof.
nilram
(2,886 posts)And as difficult to configure as a gordion knot?
At least someone from the 1980's will feel at home, if not the 1950's.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)It's bad enough we have tens of thousands of traffic deaths a year on what is essentially a flat surface.
The flying car people want to add another dimension to the mix? So now we have hover craft smashing into each other and dropping out of the sky on to our heads?
Best development of "the future": the complete lack of flying cars!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)people would leave their house or work and use something like a GPS to lock in their destination and magnetic 'highways' would do the driving. people like today's aircraft controllers would be monitoring and controlling these 'highways'.
It's not so far fetched.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)California has made the first move toward street-legal self-navigating cars.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)No one would believe that shit.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)The funny thing is that I'm from the 50s. I have no trouble comprehending the 2010s. We have lots of people here from the 50s. That's not so long ago.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)back when we were little kids
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)And "respect for elders."
(I was a teenager in the 50s).
AndyA
(16,993 posts)I'm sick of going to restaurants to see people sitting around wearing flip flops with dirty feet, and men wearing athletic shirts with their sweaty armpit hair sticking out. That's not courteous to others in the restaurant.
In the 1950s, people used to take more pride in their appearance. I think someone from back then would be shocked at the way people dress in public these days.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)I fully expected flying cars, but one little card sized wireless implement is a camera, phone, computer, map, has two-way access to the world's media and information? No, could not have, did not, even imagine.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)wasn't even imagined much later in the 80s and 90s. The Star Trek communication devices did not have access to their computers or have a video component.
MADem
(135,425 posts)really noticed the "ultra casual Friday" attitude that so many people have.
I'll be the first to admit, I'm retired, and when I'm out and about, I dress comfortably, but if I'm going to an "event," even if it's something as simple as tromping past the casket of a dead president, I'd put on a nice suit of clothing, and look like I was at least going to a business meeting.
I didn't go to the rotunda to see old Ronnie's casket, but I did watch the C-Span coverage, and I was stunned at the ripped jeans, dirty tees, crappy tennis shoes, and slovenly appearance of so many of the mourners and curiosity seekers. It looked like a fanny pack convention up in there!!!
It's a different world, though--no point in getting all crotchety and complaining about how "the kids" do things now, it's their world and they make their own rules and set their own priorities. I will still "get correct" when I have to go somewhere that matters, though! I'd feel uncomfortable otherwise...
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)One of my biggest pet peeves is the way people, especially members of my generation, dress - even in situations where a little bit of formality is expected. I always try to dress presentable to school - button down or other collared shirt with dark jeans that are not ripped and shoes that don't look like I just ran cross country in them. I am amazed at how some of my friends dress - with their sweat pants, ripped jeans, flip flops, etc. And I can understand some people who may come from families that are economically disadvantaged, but many teenagers that dress worse than me come from families that make more money than mine!
Another example is when I went to Christmas mass. I wore a suit and my Democrat blue necktie (I'm probably the only teenager that owns 3 suits!) and I was expecting all of the other men to dress at least a step up from what they normally wear. I was completely wrong. I was amazed how many grown men were wearing jeans, dirty white sneakers, etc. to church on Christmas day. It was a disgrace!
Freddie
(9,258 posts)And not long ago getting him to wear a shirt with a collar (anything other than a t-shirt or hoodie) was impossible even to church. Now he's a student teacher and had to buy a whole wardrobe of nice shirts, pants and shoes. And he's proud of how nice he looks! His FB pic is "Mr. H--" in his teacher shirt and tie.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)As would open discussions of LGBT issues.
LiberalFighter
(50,856 posts)I thought they had to open the window and use their arm to signal.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)He bought that tank used when he finished medical school in 1961 just so he could be the first in his class to own a Cadillac.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)1956 Cadillac Biarritz convertable that had a radio with a 'seek' function. (He bought junked and restored it. I wish he still had it).
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Vacuum tube radios in cars were a real hassle.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Response to appleannie1 (Reply #58)
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doc03
(35,324 posts)I remember the first shooting on a California highway. Some comedian said, "When someone cuts you off you don't shoot them! That's what the bird is for!" Nowadays you could get shot at for flipping the bird.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Pretty much every car did by then. You'll maybe a couple of decades off, really.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)Like all cars by then, it had turn signals.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Born in the year 1950, to be exact. I don't feel any explanations are necessary. (I have an iPhone and iPad and all that jazz; however, I really don't see the interest in Twitter or Pinterest or much of all that. I am aware of what they are.)
ON EDIT: What I meant to convey here is that the 1950s is a weird decade to choose. My father was born in 1916, so he is "from the 1950s" (he would have been in his 40s then); he also needs no explanations, at age 96.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)the world would make sense to him?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)It needs to be rewritten.
Plenty of "people from the 1950s" appear every day, though perhaps not "suddenly." The question should be "What if someone who had not lived past the 1950s suddenly appeared?"
I knew what it meant. I was merely pointing out it was a badly conceived question.
lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)... and the mere existence of Limbaugh in particular.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)as it was the era of the KKK and the John Birch society then
and depending on location, and all
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)what's new is the national syndication, but there was no shortage of local loon types railing against the Jews, the blacks,etc
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)former9thward
(31,970 posts)He left the air in 1940. Because of his opposition to American involvement in WW II the Catholic Church ordered him to be just a parish priest and do nothing more.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)Tutonic
(2,522 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)What happened to Woolworth's?
GP6971
(31,133 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Same thing. Different name.
GP6971
(31,133 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)had the same effect on local merchants. At one time, every small town and city had its own department store, usually bearing the name of some family. Sears and Wards were the deathknell of those stores, just like Walmart is today for other types of store.
Both Sears and Wards were predatory businesses, pricing local businesses out of the marketplace. Same shit, different decade.
Graybeard
(6,996 posts)Subway was .15 cents is now $2.50.
Bridge tolls were paid with a quarter are now
$9.-$10. even $13 dollars on NY.
Cigarettes are $11. dollars a pack in NYC.
We pay to watch TV (that was free in the 50s).
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)vitamins and a few other bare essentials. $25.00 !!!
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)because they spent the money on real estate projects. http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_4_port-authority.html
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)eallen
(2,953 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)As they happen slowly and with great struggle, it is easy to forget how much change there has been since 1950.
Just for starters, we have a President Barak Obama, who is black. There are several states where gays, who were very definitely in the closet in 1950 for the most part, can get married - and even have the announcement of it in the NYT. They would also be stunned by the far greater diversity in the people they see.
There are now more woman college graduates than male college graduates. In the mid 60s in Indiana when our high school Health and Guidance class was working on future careers, I was told I could not take the mathematics folder. This in spite of being a top student. (By 1972 when I graduated with a double major in math/economics the world had already changed enough that it was easy to get a job.)
The other thing that would stun them is that in 1950, there were "poor" and "wealthy" and a large range in the middle where most people were. Most of that middle group, owned a home and one car and the wives stayed home. Both the mega mansions and the dilapidated areas of towns would likely stun them.
My guess - even if returned to their home town, they likely would not recognize it and in some places guess they were in another country.
My grandparents upper middle class neighborhood is a slum now.
My grandparents would be blown away with a black president and simply the number of minority actors, writers, musicians, accountants, doctors... the world is radically changed in opportunity for minorities at the same time upward mobility is really, really low. The collision of these two concepts would be a major thing for them. Isn't this exactly what drives the hate in the teaparty? You have a massive decrease in the reality of "white male" privilege but at the same time a massive decrease in the economic ability of any to obtain upward mobility.
Of course the biggest shock to them would be as Irish and Italian Catholics the sudden welcoming of them as being considered "white" and totally accepted as part of the WAS(P) majority
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)My Mom, who will be 91 later this month, and her mother, now deceased but was born in 1893 and died in 1990, have and had exclaimed about women going into the profession, politics and business with considerable success.
My grandmother had a hard time with my former legal career. Interestingly, her a bit younger sister and brother were very proud of me.
When I'm home with Mom in rural Michigan, I watch the PBS Newshour. My Mom always remarks about the incredibly intelligent women panelists. She doesn't comment on the hosts, but on the panelists.
Part of my family is Catholic and part Protestant, and there were all kinds of problems up until WWII. The Klan burned a cross in the field by my Catholic ancestor's farm house in the brief Klan revival of the 1920s even though my grandfather and his brother were WWI vets, and his brother received the Purple Heart. There were many fewer problems after The Big One. It was longer and really took the effort of everyone. I think that WWII is now underestimated as an event that pushed social change here.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)hay rick
(7,603 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)hunter
(38,309 posts)They simply didn't talk about it. I think my grandma, had she lived long enough to see it, would have been delighted to celebrate gay marriages, most especially Hollywood gay marriages.
My grandfather was a military officer. He wanted to fly or work on aircraft during World War II but the Army Air Force decided he should manage various "misfits" who were deemed essential to the war effort. They were mostly alcoholics, addicts, and homosexuals. Sadly, as soon as the war ended the whole lot of them, including my grandfather, were among the first to be kicked to the curb. Nazi scientists and engineers fared better than some of the people my grandfather worked with.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)when Rock Hudson went public.
Also, that is really sad about your grandfather. I didn't know that the military had a special section of "misfits"--that just seems bizarre. I always think of the military taking care of WWII vets (as opposed to today's vets), so your grandfather's story is especially poignant. I hope everything turned out well for him eventually.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)THERE IS NO NEED TO "EXPLAIN" ANYTHING WE'VE OBVIOUSLY LIVED THROUGH AND WITH.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)temporary311
(955 posts)"suddenly appeared."
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)The point of the question is the person did not live through the intervening years, thus not experiencing the gradual transition to our current state of affairs.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)born in the mid-40s, actually. I think one of the greatest changes is the lack of privacy due to cell phones, especially. There's no such thing as a vacation from connnectivity, no down time from a job, or much time to just get away from it all with no interruptions. Another thing is family life. The need for both parents to work puts small children in daycare all day, which would have been unthinkable in the 50s. Children were taken care of by family members or babysitters for short times when parents went out for an evening. Families no longer sit down together at the dinner table every night or watch TV together before bedtime.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)If you had been propelled from 1956 to today, things would be quite shocking.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)So I know ll about the 1950s.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)is that telephone booths were created to give privacy while on the phone. When was the last time you saw a pay phone, let alone a pay phone in a telephone booth.
Also, you're right, few families watch TV together. Too many TVs, too many channels with little that is worthwhile to watch, too many activities. I'm not opposed to giving up TV viewing, just the family togetherness. When I was a kid, the family watched TV together and my dad pretty much chose what we would watch.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)stuntcat
(12,022 posts)All I have to do to be horrified at humanity is watch a little tv.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)It might not be the most difficult question, but would probably be among the first. Also, the Internets.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)because all the abuses and policies that caused it have been removed. My Republican parents told me there would never be a Republican President like Hoover again. So explain to me what happened?
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)atrocities were fixed and would be prevented into the future.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)and all the abuses and policies were put back into place again.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)tavernier
(12,375 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and how Batman, Superman, Spider Man are still thriving
and how all the old tv shows are watched by anyone wanting to see them
so a person from then can be comforted seeing Leave it to Beaver or the Honeymooners or Lucy again and feel at home
(and that Elvis's Meatloaf and mashed potatoes can be purchased still in Graceland)
Of course, racism is rampant and a person from the 50s would think some things never change.
but the worst they might find is the whining that goes on in America now.
They might think that people need to grow up
and know how bad it was in the past
And they would marvel that say "Tom and Jerry" the recording duo became Simon and Garfunkel and that Simon's lyrics still have relevance all the years later
and who were the Beatles?
(there was a Twilight zone that dealt with this)
marybourg
(12,611 posts)who sang "Earth Angel" in the schoolyard of P.S. 87 in Flushing, Queens, in 1955 had become famous.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)the 1950's were a vastly different time, socially and technologically. The Internet, racial integration, social acceptance of interracial and same-sex relationships, 24-hour news media, environmentalism, equal rights for women, minorities, and LGBT, demographic change, sexual liberation, health-consciousness...to the mythical average American from 1950 the world of 60 years later would be a totally strange and alien place.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Rides with Russians (who are no longer called Soviets).
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)But yeah, I agree with you 100% on this one.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)Not to mention our President and the fact that African Americans don't have to ride at the back of the bus, etc.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)changed significantly since the 50s but the first female US House member was elected more than three years before the 19th Amendment was ratified. Of course it was not commonplace to have females serving in the congress but it did happen. A curious side note, the first five females US House members were all Republicans. The first several female US Senators were Democrats.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)I wondered if I'd gotten the dates wrong.
Thanks for the info!
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Minnesota's first US House member elected in the 50s and served two yerms. Her name was Coya Knutson and the way she got beat was the Republins got her husband to write an open letter to her (printed in the newspapers) "Coya Come Home". He was a drunk and the reason she got involved in politics was to get away from him.
Music Man
(1,184 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)and they forgot about him until now. Oops!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)and Robert Wagner's response. LOL!
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)In reverse. It would be like someone he met in the 1950s returning to 1985 with him, or in this case, 2013.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The 1980s.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)The Republican dishonest talk-radio monopoly would be a tough one.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)I imagine the lack of a US manufacturing base, the ascendance of the financial sector, and our dependence on the importation of domestic goods from Communist China would confound most transplants from the Fifties. Technology would be relatively easy to adapt to.
kydo
(2,679 posts)the 1950 ver of rethugs is no where near what it is now. I think they might have a hard time with the whole dems are the old repugs and teabagger is not something you use to make tea.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)MyshkinCommaPrince
(611 posts)Did the time traveler already experience the cultural impact of rock and roll and Kinsey and the earlier developments of the civil rights movement? How much has television already affected them? How old are they, how much education do they have, when were they educated? Seems like all of these things and more would influence how difficult it might be for them to grasp different aspects of contemporary life.
Can we think about so many of our RW opponents as people who think they have suddenly arrived from the fifties, with no experience of the time between then and now, or think like such a person? Hmm.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)At least, they've been useless for the great majority of people.
If you're talking about multiplication tables, then I can tell you that they do still teach them in public school, because my son is learning them right now.
doc03
(35,324 posts)GP6971
(31,133 posts)apparently talking to themselves (hands free cell phones)
tableturner
(1,680 posts)Donald Fagen's song I.G.Y (linked below the lyrics) was written in the early eighties by a child of the fifties and sixties, from the standpoint of how society in 1957, the international geophysical year, thought life would be like twenty years later around the time of the next international geophysical year. The lyrics portray great irony (as planned), since none of the predictions came true. Of course this thread is about how much has changed, so this song addresses this subject from the opposite angle.
I.G.Y. (International Geophysical Year) lyrics:
Standing tough under stars and stripes
We can tell
This dream's in sight
You've got to admit it
At this point in time that it's clear
The future looks bright
On that train all graphite and glitter < This did not happen
Undersea by rail < This did not happen
Ninety minutes from New York to Paris < This did not happen
Well by seventy-six we'll be A.O.K.
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free <People in general are no more free than in the 50s
Get your ticket to that wheel in space < This did not happen
While there's time
The fix is in
You'll be a witness to that game of chance in the sky
You know we've got to win
Here at home we'll play in the city
Powered by the sun < This did not happen
Perfect weather for a streamlined world < This did not happen
There'll be spandex jackets one for everyone <We had reverted to preppy wear when song was written
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free <People in general are no more free than in the 50s
On that train all graphite and glitter < This did not happen
Undersea by rail < This did not happen
Ninety minutes from New York to Paris < This did not happen
A just machine to make big decisions < This did not happen
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision <We are not more compassionate/visionary
We'll be clean when their work is done < This did not happen
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young <We're neither eternally free nor eternally young
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free <People in general are no more free than in the 50s
Here is the song on YouTube:
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)the Channel Tunnel and Eurostar.
JHB
(37,158 posts)Tikki
(14,556 posts)They'll have to deal with 3D..(just emerging in the 50's), printed: like a mimeograph? and cars
were suppose to fly by now...Who even thought about gas mileage (until the late 50's) or eco-friendly?
Tikki
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)They tried so hard, for so long, to shut us out. And when they finally opened the floodgates..........well, picture a tsunami.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)We would have to get up from the nice comfy couch to change channels. I do not know hoe I survived those years without remote controls. I have a remote control for my TV, air conditioning and space heater. I do not have to get off the couch to adjust anything. No wonder we Americans are becoming so fat.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I should know, I was one.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)And Captain James T. Kirk kissing Nyota Uhura--the first scripted interracial kiss on American television.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)and totally unable to disconnect from them.
I just don't understand people who are on their cell phones constantly.
Nor do I understand texting.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Many people can't accept that some people have no jobs (by choice), siblings/children/grandchildren, fondness for computer games, or any other reason to have a "smartphone."
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)So many people are too busy talking on their cell phones, of looking at their damn smart phones that they don't notice what is going on in the world around them. I really don't get it either. And, half the time, it's fucking rude. Every time I go into a store, there's at least one person stopped right in the middle of an aisle yakking away on their phone. They are blocking everyone who is trying to get by and do their business. And, don't get me started about the ones who talk or text and drive...
I have a cell phone, but it's only for emergencies. I leave it turned off, otherwise. I do understand texting, however. Some things just don't warrant a phone call. And, in some places reception might be so weak that only a text message can get through.
truegrit44
(332 posts)I hate them! My husband has one and rarely uses it. Only thing they are good for would be an emergency while on the road. He always tries to get me to take it when I go to town (we live 10 miles out) but I refuse it, longer trips I do take it. Text messaging that is totally crazy. Facebook no way........but I live for my pc mostly because I sell and make money with it
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I remember billboards bragging about the Highest Standard of Living in the World.
My father-in-law, a not very successful insurance salesman, was able to support his wife and four children, with an average home in Bozeman, a 2-3 yr old car, a cabin at Canyon Ferry Lake, a boat, skiing in the winter, etc etc etc.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)subterranean
(3,427 posts)and that it happened without any nuclear weapons being dropped or even any large-scale war.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)you couldn't even say the word pregnant on TV on the 50's, couples slept in separate beds. I'm pretty sure late night Cinemax would give them a heart attack. In the real world, I think it'd be very shocking to go from a world where women pretty much only wore dresses to women walking own the street in tight shirts and jeans.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Cable TV. Reality TV. Honey Boo Boo
dickthegrouch
(3,172 posts)So many people think it's only illegal if you get convicted.
Wrong: the law usually says it is illegal or is an offense, conviction is ONLY the means to punishment.
People used to take pride in the truth, now it is difficult to get the law even to enforce telling the truth, far less requiring it.
richmwill
(1,326 posts)But on a serious answer, I would say the internet and iPhones, iPads, iPods, etc.
Retrograde
(10,132 posts)I'd say the availability of reliable birth control - which in turn opened up career opportunities for more women in addition to being mothers.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)Worlds of opportunity opened up then and women could purse those worlds without fear of getting pregnant if they didn't want to be...
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)[IMG][/IMG]
EDIT: I understand they can still be had thru Amazon, etc., for vintage cars. Don't see much of them out on the street.
Freddie
(9,258 posts)In the early 70s. A few years later when I learned to drive...you could live years in this town and never have to parallel park, and they did not require it for the drivers license test like they do now.
jemsan
(266 posts)Thank Ronald Reagan for that. I remember the day they closed the psychiatric hospitals. Just opened the doors.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Wait, you mean it was all in color back then too? Well when I see videos and photos ... it looks all black and white to me!
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)asjr
(10,479 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)I can picture myself explaining the tea party to my uncle.
Me: See heres their web page.
Uncle: Oh! You mean the John Birch Society.
Me: Look this is how they view the United Nations.
Uncle: Yes! You mean the John Birch Society.
Me: No, No, here let's look at another web page we'll try Free Republic.
Uncle: Yup. Still carrying on about prying something from their cold dead fingers. John Birch Society!
Me: Let's try again. Here, World Net Daily.
Uncle: My god you have a black president. Tell you what kid. If you got any of those Birchers in congress you ain't ever gonna get any bills passed.
Me: Ok one more try. Here rense.com.
Uncle: I just never understood the JBS thing about florid. What's a smart meter? Looks like they get all pisey about them too.
Fortunately my uncle was a car lover. Large dangerous things that moved fast.
Going to take him out and show him a Sicon IQ. That will be something he thought he would never see.
He'd already had a preview of the modern republican party.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)CTyankee
(63,901 posts)The grandparents were a bit heavy around the middle but the other adults and the children were normal size. Some we might consider a bit too thin! And these were people of German stock...
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)on TV and in movies. Really graphic violence. And sex scenes that would only have been in porno films, also on TV and in movies. The casual swearing.
The internets. Everything, good and bad available on the internets.
There are so many things we now take for granted, even those of us who grew up in the 1950's, that it's somewhat difficult to actually name everything that is different. Overall, it's the technology -- cell phones and answering machines and computers -- that have altered so much. Recently I read a novel that was written a couple of years ago, but most of it takes place in the early 1970's and in it the characters are constantly having to hang out to wait for phone calls. It felt bizarre.
While we are a very long way from a perfect world, the level of equality between genders and races is astonishing compared to the 1950's. As late as 1969 the company I worked for laid off a woman they knew was pregnant in a down-sizing, rather than the less senior woman who was not pregnant. And, as so many have already pointed out, we have a black man in the White House.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)at gay marriage, legal and constitutional abortion, women soldiers and pilots, and being able to vote for a woman for president (as I was able to do in our CT primary back in 08).
JI7
(89,244 posts)i don't think they would be too surprised by things like the phones we have just because so many of them were making great predictions at that take that we haven't lived up to.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)get a whole world of stuff.
I grew up in segregated Texas so a black president would definitely have been a huge surprise. The fact that he was the offspring of a white mother and black father AND conceived before marriage would have been a big cultural shock too. In those days, young women would have "premature" babies, some weighing 8 lbs and everybody snickered!
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)and in college. I gave it up in 1980 for good. I had associated smoking with adulthood and sophistication when I was a teenager growing up so I started smoking when I was in college. It seems so stupid to me now and it's unbelievable to me that kids today want to smoke! How crazy is that?
JI7
(89,244 posts)background. also when would they have died ?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)ages 11 to 19 in the fifties, in other words I would have fit into the Anderson family, (Father Knows Best) if my family had been such a generic fifties family. They weren't. Actually very few were but it was an ideal that white fifties families believed they could achieve. I started noticing things going awry around 1970 economically, not war wise and civil rights wise, so I would have him die by 1975. We were still five years away from institutionalized and accepted homelessness then too. That actually was my very first real shock that things were going bad. It's when I walked out the door one day to find ragged people walking around with shopping bags, talking and screaming to themselves and sleeping on the streets. I remember saying to my husband, "Have we become Calcutta?" Then, I thought this situation would be fixed soon enough. I'm still waiting 33 years later.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Yes modern technology would seem amazing and all, but I don't think there's much that would have been totally unforeseeable. Much of what we have today is an evolution of what already existed even then. Cell phones are just portable telephones; televisions are pretty much the same but bigger and much higher quality; the pervasiveness of computers might be a shocker but still, a lot of it was imagined if not thought likely.
I think you'd have to go back a lot further to find people who would be truly confused or bewildered by modern society, like from the 18th or 19th centuries. Imagine showing a computer or television to Thomas Jefferson, or an airplane to George Washington.
randome
(34,845 posts)"When's the next ferry to the Moon?"
"A planet where Conservatives evolved from men?"
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)OBGYN coverage. and hospital stay...not to mention college education.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)what would probably surprise me the most (apart from suddenly discovering I was old) would be computers, smartphones, the Internet, and huge flat-screen HDTVs with wireless remote controls and the ability to watch almost any movie at any time on them.
And LOLcats.
-..__...
(7,776 posts)I think that's progress most could agree upon.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)and still have a hard time paying their mortgage and medical bills.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It would take a while, since many of us today have a great deal of difficulty with it too.
rainy
(6,089 posts)that there are more with psychoses.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)kidding
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)our doctors so that someone profits (other than the doctor) for no reason whatsoever whenever we visit a doctor. (Sorry for the convoluted sentence).
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)which was the preoccupation of people interested in futuristic technology even in the 70s.
Also the 'war on terror' replacing the Cold War; and the whole global warming issue.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)without a peep.
demwing
(16,916 posts)there are so many underlying technologies that you would have to explain first, just to explain something simple like the buying of a loaf of bread. The degree that we work hard in order to avoid hard work would blow a 50's era mind.
crazyjoe
(1,191 posts)cell phones, high definition TV,..... I could go on all night.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)plus some other things that folks here would get me banned for saying.
Just saying.
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)CTyankee
(63,901 posts)company health insurance paid for it! AMAZING!
valerief
(53,235 posts)from Botox are another.
CTyankee
(63,901 posts)she always looked great with her tans until the sun damage took its toll. Which is why I never go out into the sun without sunscreen and never to lie there soaking it up...I prefer being pale and relatively smooth skinned...
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)Nuclear energy solving the world energy problems was a big push/belief in the 50's. It would be difficult for me to explain why some people get their panties/underpants in a wad about any discussion involving atomic energy. It would be difficult to outline how fear-based and emotional arguments are more powerful than logic in this modern era. I just can't personally relate to that sort of behavior, so it would be pretty difficult to convey.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)I own cookbooks. I even have my grandmother's Better Homes and Garden from 1946. Cooking is a thing in my mom's family - its my thing too!
I think if my grandma (d 1982) and Gramfeathers (d 1994) could see me flip open my iPad, type in a key ingredient, and get 100 recipes with videos and how to pics - they would be amazed. My mom is 65 and saw me doing this - and now she wants a tablet.
Raine
(30,540 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)billbailey19448jj
(31 posts)1. We've elected a half-black man as the US President not once, but TWICE
2. People can listen to hours of music wherever they go with an Ipod
3. The Republican Party has gone batshit insane
4. The internet, and its impact on society.
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)Freddie
(9,258 posts)And still not much good to watch.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Indeed, in about an hour he'd be explaining stuff to you.
ETA: You could say the same of Ursula Le Guin, Alice Andre Norton or Leigh Brackett.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)LeftInTX
(25,224 posts)My mom who was born in 1932 did not know who to run or ride a bike.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)which is now called a dollar store, is now made in (ostensibly) Communist China.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)brettdale
(12,376 posts)Mcfly!!!!
unblock
(52,184 posts)that nazis are less overtly violent but call themselves "republicans";
that democrats haven't really changed but call themselves "senator sanders".
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)30,000 lobbyists from Big Banking to Big Pharm to Big OIL.. control our govt. at every level.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)and quit.