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(4,769 posts)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:38 PM Jan 2013

Study: Fox News Viewers Average Age Higher than Average IQ

In the first of its kind study on intelligence, Brown University incorporated ideology into intelligence quotient calculations. The study looked at intelligence levels up and down the political spectrum, but took the unique approach of factoring in the ‘real world effects of final decisions’ in lieu of the standard tests that fail to take biases and prejudice into account. What they found verified the validity of past studies, but shocked the scientific community with its dramatic variation in degrees. Heading the study was L. Bruce, PhD, who is a pioneer in the field of ideological psychology.

“We knew going into this study that Fox News viewers were misinformed and incorrect on the major issues of our time,” said the bespectacled Bruce. “We also knew that past studies showed a five to ten point difference in the IQ’s of the Fox viewers compared to those who get their news from other sources, but we were unprepared for the precipitous drop that occurred when ideology was thrown into the mix. And it seemed to be inversely proportional to the time spent watching Fox News. The more they watched, the lower the intelligence. What we haven’t determined, is whether the viewing caused the drop in aptitude, or a lower intelligence made one more predisposed to watch Fox.”

Judy Collins, PhD coauthored the study and was forthcoming with the details. “While the average age of Fox News viewers is 73.4, the average IQ, using Doctor Bruce’s scale, is 65.3. Quite a difference. We started with the premise that the end result of intelligence, meaning its practical application, was more important than the pieces that are in place to make any intelligence possible. Kind of like a disassembled watch. All the pieces are there, but it can’t tell time. So, what’s the use, unless one removes, in this case, the ideology that prevents critical thought?

“I’ll give you a real life example. One of our subjects who watches Fox, insisted that the earth is only six thousand years old. We then showed this person a cross section of the sediment of Japan’s Lake Suigetsu, which has 52,800 clear layers that are deposited annually. After a few minutes of silence, this person responded by saying, ‘The earth is six thousand years old.’ So, this person may be capable recognizing numbers in the millions or billions, but can only count to six thousand when it matters. We scored this person, in the mathematics category, the same as one who was capable of only counting to six thousand. The same holds true when there is evidence of global warming, equality of races, or teachers not being responsible for the economic recession, and is completely ignored.”

“While Judy’s watch analogy is apt and rather insightful, I prefer to compare a mind bogged down in ideology with gymnast in a suit of armor,” said Bruce. “The person inside a suit of armor, just like one trapped inside of rigid ideology, may be an uncoordinated lout unable to walk and chew gum at the same time, or they may be a world-class gymnast. But an observer would never know the difference being that all athletic feats attempted would be abject failures. We approached this study with that fact in the forefront of our minds… Now we hope that this study will wake those trapped in their individual suits of armor, and allow them to think more clearly.”



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Study: Fox News Viewers Average Age Higher than Average IQ (Original Post) 20score Jan 2013 OP
could be fact samsingh Jan 2013 #1
The scary part is... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #2
Kick for truthiness n/t Fumesucker Jan 2013 #3
Wow, this is really good! Love the analogies. suede1 Jan 2013 #4
Thank you! 20score Jan 2013 #5
Can't be true railsback Jan 2013 #6
Keep the government out of my Medicare n/t Fumesucker Jan 2013 #7
A 65 Iq is mild mental retardation DisabledDem Jan 2013 #27
Um... punkin87 Jan 2013 #37
You don't need satire railsback Jan 2013 #40
This is great! K & R! punkin87 Jan 2013 #8
Just because someone has a brain doesn't mean they use it. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #9
So, what are you saying? hbskifreak Jan 2013 #10
Hello Ski Freak! 20score Jan 2013 #13
Not as far from the truth as Fox would claim. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #11
I'm a dumb sonofabitch coldbeer Jan 2013 #12
That is very telling........ Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #14
The average IQ is 100. Tab Jan 2013 #18
Its very definition. Not "It's" Flying Squirrel Jan 2013 #41
I have a friend with a high IQ and he's an ignorant jackass Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #15
Oi. deafskeptic Jan 2013 #28
Ego? Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #30
agreed hbskifreak Jan 2013 #31
Well said my friend! 20score Jan 2013 #49
I had a roommate once that was brilliant but louis-t Jan 2013 #54
This was very well done. kayakjohnny Jan 2013 #16
Thank you very much, Kayak Johnny! 20score Jan 2013 #21
I have trouble believing this. Tab Jan 2013 #17
psst librechik Jan 2013 #20
Nice satire, 20score. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2013 #19
Thanks much! 20score Jan 2013 #29
Link? adieu Jan 2013 #22
And only one of those numbers is going up ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #23
You write for the Onion, right? Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #24
Thanks! 20score Jan 2013 #33
I wonder if Dr. Bruce's IQ Scale is the traditional IQ scale. DhhD Jan 2013 #25
Fox=fearfull and unbalanced putitinD Jan 2013 #26
They sure dont seem to be able to see through the lies. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #32
Sounds legit! Iggo Jan 2013 #34
I don't understand something Fumesucker Jan 2013 #35
dumb and old means low ad rates pstokely Jan 2013 #36
Posted this on face book. suede1 Jan 2013 #38
Cool story, bro. StrictlyRockers Jan 2013 #39
Thank you! 20score Jan 2013 #45
IQ tests are not standardized. They're not really scientific (not reliable nor consistent) Bucky Jan 2013 #42
Hugh!!!!!!!!! Morans!!!!!!!!! mmonk Jan 2013 #43
*snort* sakabatou Jan 2013 #44
Excellent! perfect satire! Duppers Jan 2013 #46
Duppers! 20score Jan 2013 #48
Well, the only response I have to this startling new revelation is ... chemenger Jan 2013 #47
Thank you. 20score Jan 2013 #50
Loved this libodem Jan 2013 #51
Thank you! 20score Jan 2013 #52
Welcome libodem Jan 2013 #53
 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
40. You don't need satire
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jan 2013

to prove FOX viewers aren't very bright. A better satire would be all the Bradley Manning supporters who believe Manning is a hero - rather than some sad, lonely broken hearts kid looking for love and affection and willing to sell top secret national security files for it - have genius I.Q.s.

hbskifreak

(57 posts)
10. So, what are you saying?
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jan 2013

...and I think you are being generous with the average IQ's of Fox viewers. I'm just sayin. I could feel IQ points being plucked directly from my brain even when I accidentally channel surf past fox...it burns!

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
14. That is very telling........
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jan 2013

I just googled about 8 different sites about the average U.S. IQ. The numbers (and the postings indicate these are estimates) ranged from 87 to 101. So the average IQ of a Fox News viewer is likely at least 20 points lower than the IQ of the average American.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
41. Its very definition. Not "It's"
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:15 AM
Jan 2013

Just thought I'd correct that this time around in a thread about IQ and practical application.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
15. I have a friend with a high IQ and he's an ignorant jackass
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jan 2013

Was middle of the road but now he's turning into a fox news right winger. Says he's got a 160 IQ, which I believe, and he's really good at brain teaser and troubleshooting type stuff, but he is also the most incurious and unread person I've ever met. His being "smart" causes him to inflate his ego to the point he feels no need to learn anything from anybody. I can flat out smoke him in any political/policy debate, and it really pisses him off.

High IQ doesn't mean shit if you don't apply it to any useful end.

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
28. Oi.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jan 2013

I have someone like this in my family and he's a retired MD. I have wondered how an M.D. could come across as so .. uneducated in certain areas. He's the most inflexiable thinker I have ever met.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
30. Ego?
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jan 2013

It's simplified to say intelligence is basically one's ability to "connect the dots": But what if the dots connect in a way said smart guy doesn't jive with innate biases he/she may have?

hbskifreak

(57 posts)
31. agreed
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jan 2013

I've known a guy for about 20 years; we started out as enlisted marines together. We were close friends for a long time. Then he went to college, then he received a law degree from one of the most prestigious law schools in the country. Then he couldn't get a job to repay the 200,000 clams he owes in student loans, so he went back into the military to work for JAG. He is an intelligent guy, but once he received that piece of paper, he became and arrogant ass who knows everything, just ask him. He became a bully / coward about his political beliefs and I eventually ended our friendship. His poisonous personality was damaging my health, and I don't need to keep people like that as friends.

IQ is irrelevant and being "Smart" is subjective.

Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, and Albert Einstien all share an IQ of 160 with Dolph Lundgren.

George Washington IQ was 118

Ronald Reagan was 105....Paris Hilton is 107.

Ted Kaczynski is 165.

These are fascinating stats that have no real value if the talents are not used properly. How unfortunate.


louis-t

(23,292 posts)
54. I had a roommate once that was brilliant but
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jan 2013

couldn't get his shoes on the right feet and get to work in the morning. He also would get drunk and set the apartment on fire by leaving something on the stove and falling asleep.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
17. I have trouble believing this.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jan 2013

First, for the "average age" of Fox viewers to be 73.4, you'd have to have some seriously elderly folk constituting a good chunk of the audience. However, let's say that it's true and the population is a mix of 60-year-old's and 80-year-old's.

Second, unless Dr. Bruce's scale is radically different than the typical scale (where an IQ of 100 is literally "average&quot , 65.3 is many cookies short of a dozen. I know many Fox viewers aren't the strongest in critical thinking, but 65 is pretty cognitively impaired. I know a lot of Fox viewers and although I can blame them for not thinking critically, not being exposed to alternate viewpoints, and having grown up in conservative households, and generally being under-informed, being under-(or mis-)informed is not quite the same as cognitive disability.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
19. Nice satire, 20score.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

I think you have some of the folks here convinced. Let's all sit back and watch the trolls flame it.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
24. You write for the Onion, right?
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jan 2013

I can't believe that anyone is thinking you are serious.....just goes to show.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. They sure dont seem to be able to see through the lies.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jan 2013

I was in the Dr waiting room right after ARA passed and a RW old woman was commenting "we had a good health care until Obama ruined it with Obamacare". I wanted to turn to her and ask what had changed since nothing had started but did nit think she would understand anyway. Like the lady yelling "don't let the government mess with my Medicare".

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
42. IQ tests are not standardized. They're not really scientific (not reliable nor consistent)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:02 AM
Jan 2013

They mostly test one's test-taking skills and most of the IQ tests are riddled with cultural biases.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
46. Excellent! perfect satire!
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jan 2013

Bravo!! Bravo, my friend.

I'll share too this too when I log back into FB.



chemenger

(1,593 posts)
47. Well, the only response I have to this startling new revelation is ...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jan 2013

to laugh my f*****g ass off ... :











Yea ... as if we didn't already know this.


OOPS! I didn't read the responses before posting mine. I now see that this was a satire (or was it???). Anyway I'll admit to being gullible (at time).s

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