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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:04 PM Jan 2013

Why Paul Krugman should be President Obama's pick for US treasury secretary

Why Paul Krugman should be President Obama's pick for US treasury secretary

Not only is he the world's best-known economist, Krugman has the intellect and integrity to resist Wall Street's calls for austerity

President Obama hasn't picked a treasury secretary yet for his second term, so he has a chance to do something different.

He could ignore what Wall Street and conservative media interests want and pick somebody who would represent what the electorate voted for. And not even just the people who voted for him: there are a lot of Republican voters out there who are also unemployed.

I know what you are thinking: this is impossible. There is too much money and power on the other side of this idea...But Obama has surprised us before. Last June, he picked Jim Kim to run the World Bank. This was unprecedented and an historic change; Kim is practically the only World Bank president in 60 years who was not previously a banker or a war criminal. On the contrary, Kim had spent most of his entire adult life trying to help poor people get healthcare.

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Krugman would be tough to oppose on any substantive grounds. He has a Nobel Prize in economics (also the John Bates Clark award for best economist under 40). The New York Times columnist is probably the best-known living economist in the United States, and perhaps the world.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/05/paul-krugman-obama-treasury-secretary


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Why Paul Krugman should be President Obama's pick for US treasury secretary (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2013 OP
I could go for that. Of course, I admit a tiny crush on Paul Krugman. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
Me too...I think Stiglitz is cute also. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #3
be still my heart handmade34 Jan 2013 #13
I saw him first! PasadenaTrudy Jan 2013 #40
Nice... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #2
Kim never said that Obama was the world's worst poker player. MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #4
I get the sense ProSense Jan 2013 #6
No need to prove it PBO is doing it all on his own stultusporcos Jan 2013 #7
Yup, that ProSense Jan 2013 #10
yes your post was at least you knew it stultusporcos Jan 2013 #11
Hmmm, familiar? ProSense Jan 2013 #12
KnR ananda Jan 2013 #5
His books are really interesting... YvonneCa Jan 2013 #8
ProSense... are you feeling more liberal these days? fascisthunter Jan 2013 #9
He would be a good pick. LWolf Jan 2013 #14
Robert Reich would be a "good pick" too & has experience from the Clinton administration. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #25
there are reasons to want an economist in the job cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #31
Reich is a PhD in Economics, teaches at UC Berkeley. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #35
Why not start a petition on the white house website? riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #15
I think Krugman would feel too constrained in the job RomneyLies Jan 2013 #16
Sorry. This is a non-starter. radiclib Jan 2013 #17
Obama would be so smart to appoint Krugman. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #18
You do know that Bernanke.... ReRe Jan 2013 #23
That might be a good beginning. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #29
Correctamundo... ReRe Jan 2013 #32
Wouldn't Goldman Sachs have to give permission for this to happen? rurallib Jan 2013 #19
Surely there are better candidates UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #20
Apparently Obama wants Larry Summers, another Clinton administration retread. Cleita Jan 2013 #21
Larry Summers would be a terrible choice. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #30
Oh, I agree and I would love Paul Krugman but it ain't gonna happen. n/t Cleita Jan 2013 #33
I have heard nothing on Summers. I have heard tons about Jack Lew. Jennicut Jan 2013 #38
You could be right. I heard Summers mentioned by a pundit Cleita Jan 2013 #46
Krugman said that he does not want the job. Jennicut Jan 2013 #47
Maybe you should direct this post to the OP as it was ProSense who Cleita Jan 2013 #48
I'm with you, ProSense garthranzz Jan 2013 #22
Yeah, PO should go ahead and stick a fork... ReRe Jan 2013 #24
ProSense, did you notice this part of the story? Hagel is being trashed here on DU: freshwest Jan 2013 #26
I haven't really noted Hagel being "trashed" Fumesucker Jan 2013 #37
Aint no way in HELL the money boys gonna let Obama do that RedstDem Jan 2013 #27
Should have been his VP Peregrine Jan 2013 #28
I wish. But doesnt Pres Obama only appoint republicans? nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #34
Sign the petition eridani Jan 2013 #36
No way in hell Obama does this, but... dreamnightwind Jan 2013 #39
For me it comes down to the fact that Krugman is a Kensian. He understands how we got out of jwirr Jan 2013 #41
I'm guessing that ProSense would rather have Krugman inside the tent pissing out Fumesucker Jan 2013 #42
I guessing you have ProSense Jan 2013 #43
I'm sitting on this bar stool talking like a damn fool Fumesucker Jan 2013 #44
I can support this. Xyzse Jan 2013 #45
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
4. Kim never said that Obama was the world's worst poker player.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jan 2013

And the World Bank spot was in danger of going to someone from another country.

Krugman will remain banished from the White House until he embraces triangulation, which he will not barring a brain trauma of some sort.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. I get the sense
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jan 2013

"Krugman will remain banished from the White House until he embraces triangulation, which he will not barring a brain trauma of some sort."

...that the most important thing in the world to you is to prove Obama is a sellout who should be despised.

Krugman is a practical person who rarily subccumbs to knee-jerk.

Battles of the Budget

By PAUL KRUGMAN

The centrist fantasy of a Grand Bargain on the budget never had a chance. Even if some kind of bargain had supposedly been reached, key players would soon have reneged on the deal — probably the next time a Republican occupied the White House.

For the reality is that our two major political parties are engaged in a fierce struggle over the future shape of American society. Democrats want to preserve the legacy of the New Deal and the Great Society — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid — and add to them what every other advanced country has: a more or less universal guarantee of essential health care. Republicans want to roll all of that back, making room for drastically lower taxes on the wealthy. Yes, it’s essentially a class war.

The fight over the fiscal cliff was just one battle in that war. It ended, arguably, in a tactical victory for Democrats. The question is whether it was a Pyrrhic victory that set the stage for a larger defeat.

Why do I say that it was a tactical victory? Mainly because of what didn’t happen: There were no benefit cuts.

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There were also some actual positives from a progressive point of view. Expanded unemployment benefits were given another year to run, a huge benefit to many families and a significant boost to our economic prospects (because this is money that will be spent, and hence help preserve jobs). Other benefits to lower-income families were given another five years — although, unfortunately, the payroll tax break was allowed to expire, which will hurt both working families and job creation.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/opinion/kurgman-battles-of-the-budget.html


ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Yup, that
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

"No need to prove it PBO is doing it all on his own should he be despised no, just exposed."

...is the most important thing. What a bullshit waste of time.



YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
8. His books are really interesting...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

...and, for a non-economist like me, written in a way that explains our economic situation so that even I can understand it.

He has had an important role in recent years making the progressive case for fixing our economic mess. I think having him out there in the media has been helpful to the Obama Administration. If he were to become Treasury Secretary, that would surely change but he would be a very good choice.

I think MoveOn has a petition out there...

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
14. He would be a good pick.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jan 2013

Which is why it won't happen.

Weisbrot is correct. I'm thinking "This is impossible."

Go ahead. Make me a believer.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
31. there are reasons to want an economist in the job
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jan 2013

non-economists have held the job, of course, but they will end up just taking somebody's word for a lot of stuff

Reich's a good man, but not for treasury.

IMO.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
15. Why not start a petition on the white house website?
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jan 2013

He would have to know how many people want Krugman...you think many would sign it?

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
16. I think Krugman would feel too constrained in the job
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jan 2013

He'd be dragged down by the political realities of the position.

radiclib

(1,811 posts)
17. Sorry. This is a non-starter.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

Won't happen.
Should happen, but that's irrelevant. Wall Street owns the position.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Obama would be so smart to appoint Krugman.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jan 2013

When it comes to economics, Krugman is the smartest guy in the room no matter where he goes.

Barack Obama is the smartest guy in the room when it comes to a lot of things, especially foreign policy, but not when it comes to economics.

Krugman would be a perfect match. Then we would have two smartest guys in the room in two really important areas. With Kerry at State, set to go.

I don't really know much about Hagel. I think Obama's choosing Hagel is a smart move on Obama's part, but I don't know how smart Hagel is. So, no opinion there.

But Krugman at Treasury and Bernanke at the Fed would be a good balance. They would keep each other in check. Two smart guys bringing two points of view.

I sure hope Obama gets the courage to pick Krugman.

That would be so great, but I don't know whether Obama would have the votes in the Senate. That's my only question. Anyway the nomination hearings would be an eye-opener for the nation. An opportunity to educate the American people.

Even if Krugman couldn't make it through the Senate, he might change the minds of some Americans. I really hope Obama does this.

Hagel and Kerry should be shoo-ins. If they aren't Republicans will look like fools and worse -- bad losers.

So Obama could risk putting Krugman up. Chances are Krugman would get the post. I sure would like to see that.

Obama could get a team he could really work with: Kerry, Hagel and Krugman. Dream team.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
23. You do know that Bernanke....
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jan 2013

...was Krugman's teacher? Although Krugman turned out with different views I guess than Bernanke.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
46. You could be right. I heard Summers mentioned by a pundit
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jan 2013

but can't find a link to verify it. Whoever it is it won't be anyone like Krugman but someone Wall Street wants.

Your link also puts forth Wall Streeters:

Other (unlikely) candidates include Wall Streeters such as Roger Altman, Blackstone’s Tony James and Blackrock’s Larry Fink. Internal candidates include Deputy Secretary Neal Wolin and Undersecretary for International Affairs Lael Brainard. Others previously mentioned include Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg (a former Treasury official) and Google’s Eric Schmidt.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
48. Maybe you should direct this post to the OP as it was ProSense who
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jan 2013

suggested Krugman.

However, I don't blame him for not wanting the job. He would be a Keynesian mouse in a house full of Wall Street fat cats.

garthranzz

(1,330 posts)
22. I'm with you, ProSense
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:56 PM
Jan 2013

I'd love to see Krugman at Treasury.

And Obama would welcome the dialogue.

The nomination would give the Republicans fit. A real liberal - with a Nobel Prize in his field - and they'll want to block the nomination. Good luck with that.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
24. Yeah, PO should go ahead and stick a fork...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jan 2013
K&R

..in the GOP and Wall Street, and hire Krugman. Get it over with. He gave Wall Street a chance in his first term.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. ProSense, did you notice this part of the story? Hagel is being trashed here on DU:
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:21 PM
Jan 2013
Obama is currently coming under heavy fire for his reported choice of former Senator Chuck Hagel to be defense secretary. Hagel wants to get out of Afghanistan soon, does not want a war with Iran, favors negotiations with Hamas, and supports cuts in military spending.

Not only the neo-conservatives, but some of the most powerful interests in the country, including the right wing of the pro-Israel lobby, have launched a smear campaign. But so far, Obama has not backed down. This could have something to do with the fact that he no longer has to run for re-election.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/05/paul-krugman-obama-treasury-secretary

It appears to me that makes Hagel a better pick, not the demon he's being painted as in some OPs. The fact Lindsay Graham is against him and that John Kerry and Mex Cleland are for him are good in my view, as well. And this is exactly what I want to have happen, if the article is correct..

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. I haven't really noted Hagel being "trashed"
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:20 AM
Jan 2013

Pointing out that someone is not a Democrat isn't really "trashing" them, pointing out things they have said and positions they've held in the past isn't "trashing" either.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
27. Aint no way in HELL the money boys gonna let Obama do that
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jan 2013

they hate Mr.Krugman like no other on the planet.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
36. Sign the petition
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:46 AM
Jan 2013

Press reports say President Obama will soon nominate a new Treasury Secretary . Press speculation has centered on candidates likely to support the Wall Street agenda of cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits and other domestic spending rather than government policies to create jobs. We want President Obama to nominate Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, who opposes austerity and wants the government to focus on creating jobs.

That's why I signed a petition to President Barack Obama, which says:

"We urge you to nominate Paul Krugman for Treasury Secretary. Krugman will protect Social Security and Medicare from benefit cuts, promote policies to create jobs, and help defeat the austerity dogma in Washington and around the world."

Will you sign this petition? Click here:

http://signon.org/sign/nominate-paul-krugman?source=s.em.cp&r_by=398275

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
39. No way in hell Obama does this, but...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jan 2013

let's try to get him to anyway. I signed the petition. Come on everyone, why not?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
41. For me it comes down to the fact that Krugman is a Kensian. He understands how we got out of
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jan 2013

the Great Depression.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
42. I'm guessing that ProSense would rather have Krugman inside the tent pissing out
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jan 2013

Than outside pissing in.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
43. I guessing you have
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jan 2013

way too much time on your hands if you're spending it wondering what I'm thinking.

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