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The Hoax of Entitlement Reform
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Medicare isn't the problem. It may be the solution.
"Entitlement reform" sounds like a noble endeavor. But it has little or nothing to do with reducing future budget deficits.
Taming future deficits requires three steps having nothing to do with entitlements: Limiting the growth of overall healthcare costs, cutting our bloated military, and ending corporate welfare (tax breaks and subsidies targeted to particular firms and industries).
Obsessing about "entitlement reform" only serves to distract us from these more important endeavors.
much more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/entitlement-reform_b_2421991.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)everybody in, everybody pays. Of course, those that wish to can have their own insurance as well.
Huge patient pool, most of them much healthier than current enrollees; huge bargaining power; and the lowest overhead in the business.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)Medicare for all is great but IMO should not be profit motivated.
"and the lowest overhead in the business."
suffering and or death, should not be a business. I do not think that you are advocating this but in America, most have the profit mindset. Some things should not be profited from. Health insurance is wrong.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)"lowest administrative costs."
I don't regard Medicare as a "business." It's a government program that is specifically NOT profit-motivated and should be available to everyone.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)take new medicare patients...
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)You think the problem with our medical system is its profit motive AND you think Medicare doesn't pay doctors enough?
dotymed
(5,610 posts)I don't think that medicare pays Dr.'s too little, but they do. Especially compared to non-medicare payments.
Absolutely the for profit system of health care is problematic. That is why the other first world nations provide health care for it's citizens.
Their Dr.'s are paid handsomely. A government salary. Dr.'s in Great Britain for instance, make very good salaries, are some of the "top earners" and have a much better outcome than our (U.S.) health care system. They may not be getting wealthy like the banksters, but they are humanitarians being well compensated.
On "60 minutes" (I think) they showed the Dr.'s in G.B. They lived good lives, had great homes, vehicles, etc..and they were doing a job they loved. Not for the money but to help people.
In America we have insurance companies who must make huge profits and many Dr.'s that have gotten into their profession because of the money, not the people. Not all American Dr.'s are this way, thank God.
True blue green is the quest for for many capitalists but many are more interested in humanity.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Kennah
(14,256 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)...in a little less than 3 years.
We are now on the verge of seriously considering a plan that would be a huge move in exactly the opposite direction from what is best.
And it is not just Republicans promoting this, but Democrats such as Ed Rendell.
It appears it will not be an easy route.
Kennah
(14,256 posts)ACA wasn't anywhere near ideal, and a lot of ill effects continue to surface. That said, I still think it was a good step in the proper direction.
On MC and raising the age, I continue to toss up my hands and wonder aloud, "WTF?!"
John2
(2,730 posts)right through Ed Rendell. I just have a good feel for people. He is about money. He will sell his soul to the highest bidder. All you have to do is look into his financial background and who pays his salary. Most of these politicians are the same. And believe this or not, but I find many people today in the Health professions are about profits now before their vowel to cure and help sick. A lot of people today got into it because of the money. A decent salary is not good enough now a days.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)The only people who disagree are corporate CEOs and their personal bankers.
We need to end corporate welfare and tax all dollars the same. Capital Gains and dividends should be taxed at the same rate as income.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If I have a house and I sell it, I have earned income. Why should someone who works for years to make the money I make just selling my house have to pay taxes on his income earned from work if I don't have to pay it on a house when I sell it.
The capital gains tax breaks on the sale of a home should not exist.
I think that tax breaks -- deductions -- should continue for the interest on the first home that someone buys and lives in but should not continue for the capital gains income when a property is sold.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)If you live in a house for 20 years, and then sell it, inflation will generally assure that you have a hefty theoretical "profit".
But if you sell it because you need/want to move to another place, you may well find that a new comparable home costs even more than the price you got for the home you just sold. So in effect, selling your home has cost you a great deal of money if you had to pay capital gains on what is really inflation.
Inflation at even 2% a year (the Fed's long term goal) ensures that assets you have for a long time will rise in dollar value, even if the comparable value hasn't changed.
I mean think about it. Suppose a couple bought a home 30 years ago for $60,000, maintained it, paid down the mortgage, and now they are retiring and want to move south to retire. Well, the home they are looking at in AZ costs $200,000, although it is no palace. They can sell their current home for $270,000, leaving them capital "gains" of $210,000. Income that year is $50,000. With the exclusion, that moves their income into the "rich" bracket, so by your theory and Obama's recommended rates, they'd pay 35% on some of the house money. But even 28% leaves they paying taxes of $58,800 on the home sale.
I don't know why anyone would ever buy a home except for short-term speculation if they were going to be taxed like this. It's an utter loser - you wind up so much worse off than you would be if you had rented.
In the long run, lower capital gains taxes for the long term capital gains bring in more tax revenue, not less, because assets that would be unsaleable start changing hands.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)but because you get raises to match inflation. You still have to pay taxes on the increase.
Sadly, wage increases barely keep up with inflation. Corporations eat the increased profits from technological improvements. Workers generally don't get a share of those.
If your neighborhood improves or becomes a more desirable place to live, the value of your house increases and that is no more inflation than are the increased profits a corporation receives by saving labor costs or finding a cheaper alternative for an important natural resource.
We should pay taxes on capital gains no matter what the source.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)for that very reason. Otherwise we'd ALL be paying the top rates!
The problem is the way that capital gains are taxed. If you adjusted your original investment to match a comparable asset now, or even indexed it for inflation, then you would actually be taxing income. Without that, you are taxing inflation, which leaves people having less after paying taxes then they did originally.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)If they want to add in an exemption for home sales valued below a certain amount -- say a couple hundred thousand -- okay, but other than that no way.
Capital gains are INCOME and should be taxed as such.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)hay rick
(7,605 posts)1. Turn on the news- any network.
2. DO NOT, repeat DO NOT hold your breath until you hear "health care costs" mentioned as a cause of federal deficits or "REDUCING health care costs" as an alternative to entitlement reform.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)How else can Lyan Ryan say they'll take 713B
in savings and give it to the wealthy?
They can't possibly still believe in trickle-down...
And then we have the idiotd in the middle class who still vote to
elect Republicants.
We need to outlaw special interest groups and lobbying
and maybe prosecute a few members of congress for taking bribes.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)He's not afraid to think out of the box.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)That wasn't meant as an attack on you, but rather on the Very Serious People.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)underpants
(182,769 posts)Can't remember who wrote it
spanone
(135,823 posts)for a 45 minute procedure.