That Sound You Hear, is the Sound of Heads Exploding

[trailmonkee]

Good for President Obama and VP Joe Biden

There will be some serious freaking out on the 'all or nothing' side of the gun control issue.... guaranteed

Biden: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html

Vice President Joe Biden revealed that President Barack Obama might use an executive order to deal with guns.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.

Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that's currently take place at the White House.

[northoftheborder]

1. I like the way they are approaching this, with honesty and courage.

[bongbong]

2. Not just heads exploding

It's the sound of millions of Delicate Flowers crawling into their "safe spot" under their beds.

[trailmonkee]

3. .

[MissMarple]

25. Delicate Flowers...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2027380

We should take their lollipops, too.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. OMG, No! They're distracting Holder with this nonsense

when there are medical marijuana dispensaries to be persecuted--I mean, prosecuted?

[Earth_First]

5. HERE COME THE WHOLESALE UNITED NATIONS FIREARMS ROUNDUP!!!11!

ZOMG!

[Coyotl]

27. They are taking our guns because they are coming after our women next

and other leaps of logic coming in 3, 2, 1

[Lex]

30. and then your Bible.

[Coyotl]

33. LOL!

[AndyA]

6. I keep thinking that the gun culture issue exposes another problem in America

Why does law enforcement exist? If they can't serve and protect the people, why not? If there isn't enough money to put enough officers on the streets, we need to spend some of the defense budget to do so. Police also defend the country.

If our streets are so violent and unsafe that Americans must have multiple guns to protect themselves, something is wrong. It's not just mental illness, violent movies/tv/games, it's more than that. I'd rather have more well trained, regulated, law enforcement officers on the streets with guns than a bunch of strangers who I'm told I must trust to be responsible.

[angelus__]

8. Citizens with guns

are not for your protection sir. Its for their own. You can call the police if you'd like but plan on them being there in minutes when seconds count.

[BainsBane]

10. all the more reason not to have a gun

because it's 7x more likely to be used against yourself or a family member than an intruder.

[angelus__]

18. I speak for myself

...and I live by myself. I'll be right as rain sir.

[GeorgeGist]

14. That would explain why most gun deaths ...

are self-inflicted. No?

[Mojorabbit]

17. I think 60 percent are suicides. nt

[A Simple Game]

20. If citizens with guns are not for my protection, then the have to

stop using the 2nd Amendment as an excuse for being able to own guns.

Let's make up our minds.

Publish the names so I know who I can call on when the government unfairly comes for me. An online database would be nice.

[AndyA]

34. You missed the point. I mentioned nothing about *my* protection. n/t

[azurnoir]

12. well that's a good question because and I am being honest here

when I lived in Minneapolis I was as afraid of the police as I was of criminals, if you lived in certain areas of the city the cops literally considered everyone to be criminal and treated you as such

now understand I did not own a gun either but I am pointing out a problem that truly does exist

[BainsBane]

19. I'm in Mpls

one of the worst police forces in the country. Not only nasty bigots, but fucking useless. They never investigate any real crimes. They just hassle people of color. I'm a white woman and I don't care for them. But I still don't want a gun.

[azurnoir]

24. so am I

a white person I lived in Willard-Homewood North and Whittier South and they treated everyone like crap

[BainsBane]

36. I grew up in Whittier

I live in Longfellow now.

[patrice]

7. He might as well, because no matter how moderate & centrist & reasonable whatever he does is, it'll

be perceived as justification for a lot worse by certain people.

[bvar22]

9. This can NOT be true!

Anyone who has been reading DU knows that
The Presidency is an inherently WEAK position.

The President can NOT do ANYTHING without Congress & 60 votes in The Senate.
Period.
Case Closed!

All sensible Democrats who understand how government works
already KNOW this simple FACT!

[SummerSnow]

11. They can impeach him over it

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[bvar22]

13. No, no.... you don't understand HOW government works.

The President can't even stand in the Bully Pulpit and say that this would be a good thing.

I used to think like you,
but Common Sense posters who Live-in-the-Real-World at DU straightened me out.
NOW I know HOW government works.

Get with the Program
or you're only helping Romney!

[trailmonkee]

15. I think somebody might be trying to yank your chain :)

people need to use the ' ' smiley a little more often....

at least I am hoping that is the case here

[SummerSnow]

35. oops sorry forgot the sarcasm thingy

[Jennicut]

21. The President can do certain things by Executive Order.

But doing something like the assault weapons ban requires Congress.

"The things Obama can get done through executive order are much smaller. They include "changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives," the Post says. Other Congress-less reforms floated include tracking gun buyers' history of mental illness, sharing more information between state and local law enforcement, keeping information on gun sales longer, and banning the importation of military-style weapons."


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/dont-worry-nra-obama-cant-do-big-things-guns-without-congress/60778/

It has to be something that pertains to the powers of the executive branch to begin with.

[Ghostrider1]

28. Presidential power

Agreed. The president starts using EO's for something like this to sidestep the constitution and it opens a major can of worms. The question is; if it works, what other constitutional right will he sidestep? What if the Repubs win back the White House as they eventually will, will THAT president do the same to do whatever he or she wants?

[hrmjustin]

31. Now that is a scary thought. The idea that a republican can win the white house back should scare

any citizen out of their whits. By the way welcome to DU my friend.

[Lex]

32. Oh boo hoo. We lived through Bush

and the Repubs will live through Obama.

[Recursion]

16. The Brady Act is great legislation

If we could come up with something more like that and less like the AWB, we could get somewhere.

[former-republican]

22. He can't do anything with it that will affect non government employees

[Robb]

26. We'll see.

Tick, tock.

[former-republican]

29. You know I'm right

[Taverner]

23. You know, putting out an EO to actually enforce existing gun laws...

Would do a ton