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Archae

(46,262 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:25 AM Jan 2013

Grandmother chases off armed robber with gun...

To those who want to consicate all guns from those who have them LAWFULLY...

(Video at link)

MILWAUKEE —Robberies happen far too often, but a robber coming face-to-face with a gun-carrying grandmother is a little more rare.

Ernestine Aldana owns a grocery store near the corner of Muskego Avenue and Becher Street in Milwaukee. On Dec. 14, Aldana was working in the store when a man entered the store and pulled a knife on her.

"I was really scared," she said.

But as the man reached for cash from the drawer, Aldana pulled a gun from underneath the counter.

"I didn't think," she said. "I didn't remember what was being said. I just took a step back, grabbed the gun and that was that."

As the gun came out, the man ran away.

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/south-east-wisconsin/milwaukee/Robbery-halted-by-grandmother-with-a-gun/-/10148890/18072252/-/n83orqz/-/index.html#ixzz2HXk0K5Hs

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Grandmother chases off armed robber with gun... (Original Post) Archae Jan 2013 OP
Enough of this crap already HERVEPA Jan 2013 #1
Criminals being stopped in the act? Law-abiding citizens fighting back? Skip Intro Jan 2013 #2
Enough of the gun hard on posts. morningfog Jan 2013 #13
Grandmother charged in shooting death of safeinOhio Jan 2013 #21
Hey, the Admins and Hosts can banish stories like this back to the Gungeon at any time... LAGC Jan 2013 #3
It will stop when the admins say to move the gun threads back to the Gun Control Forum ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #8
I like a good self defense story as much as the next guy, but... Glassunion Jan 2013 #4
Obvious solution (at least to some): take away her firearm. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #5
Good thing the robber didn't B Calm Jan 2013 #6
Mass. grandmother shot while rocking her granddaughter to sleep Whovian Jan 2013 #7
Gun-Toting Soccer Mom Found Shot Dead 11cents Jan 2013 #9
And next on Fox News... hay rick Jan 2013 #10
Not an AR-15 with a 30 round clip? earthside Jan 2013 #11
What are you objectives with your ammunition concerns ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #12
I agree here. Archae Jan 2013 #14
For every story like this one there are about a hundred others involving Chorophyll Jan 2013 #15
There are cases where, yes, having a gun can help you protect yourself Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #20
Thanks goodness she wasn't having hallucinations like my FIL when I had to take his guns away Hoyt Jan 2013 #16
We should look at guns with a more responsible attitude. Archae Jan 2013 #17
um, yes you can. notleftwing Jan 2013 #18
I'm talking about LEGAL. Archae Jan 2013 #19
To exercise my legal right safeinOhio Jan 2013 #22

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
3. Hey, the Admins and Hosts can banish stories like this back to the Gungeon at any time...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jan 2013

But so long as its "open season" in GD...

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
8. It will stop when the admins say to move the gun threads back to the Gun Control Forum
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:43 AM
Jan 2013

Until then, blocking threads and the new block on content tool is your best options

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
4. I like a good self defense story as much as the next guy, but...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:36 AM
Jan 2013

Can we stop it with the gun posts in GD? Both sides are stuck in a pissing contest where one side is pissing for distance and the other accuracy. There will be no winners in that contest. The only thing that really happens is piss gets all over the place in GD.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. Good thing the robber didn't
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:40 AM
Jan 2013

have a gun too. Could of been a dead grandmother and who else knows how many others could have been killed.

 

Whovian

(2,866 posts)
7. Mass. grandmother shot while rocking her granddaughter to sleep
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:41 AM
Jan 2013

CBS) LAWRENCE, Mass. - While she was rocking her granddaughter to sleep on her front porch on Saturday night, Nelida Lozada was shot in the back, according to CBS Boston.

She had been on the front porch of her north suburban Boston home with her granddaughter when, around 10:30 p.m., a man with a gun ran up to Lozada and began shooting.

"She was just sitting there rocking the baby and some guy just came up and shot at her," the victim's daughter told CBS Boston.

Lozada immediately covered the baby and ran back inside the house. As she tried to escape the gunfire, she was also shot in the shoulder, her daughter told the station.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57488389-504083/mass-grandmother-shot-while-rocking-her-granddaughter-to-sleep/

11cents

(1,777 posts)
9. Gun-Toting Soccer Mom Found Shot Dead
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:46 AM
Jan 2013

LEBANON, Pa. — A mother of three who became a voice of the gun-rights movement when she openly carried
a loaded pistol to her daughter's soccer game was fatally shot along with her husband, a parole officer and
former prison guard, in an apparent murder-suicide at their home.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33220258/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/gun-toting-soccer-mom-found-shot-dead/#.UO5GEm8zOTl

Isn't this fun?

hay rick

(7,522 posts)
10. And next on Fox News...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:48 AM
Jan 2013

Legal guns used for suicide...
Legal firearms used to commit mass murder...
Legal guns stolen and used to commit armed robbery and murder...
Not...

Thanks for your fair and balanced contribution.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
11. Not an AR-15 with a 30 round clip?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jan 2013

No.

It doesn't appear that that is what grandma pulled from underneath the counter.

Personally, I find this report fits with the rational position that an 'assault weapons' ban, a ban on large capacity magazines, and a ban on teflon, hollow point and fragmenting ammunition would be perfectly reasonable.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
12. What are you objectives with your ammunition concerns
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:49 AM
Jan 2013

Teflon coated bullets are gone, and Teflon was never the issue, it was the steel bullets. Those are effectively gone.

Hollow points are actually safer in terms of over penetration in self defense and law enforcement situations. They are the most humane bullet for hunting. Fragmenting rounds like Glazer further reduce overpenetration and danger to people other than the target.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
14. I agree here.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:50 AM
Jan 2013

I own a pistol.

A .22.

That's all I want or need unless I start going deer and/or duck hunting again.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
15. For every story like this one there are about a hundred others involving
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:52 AM
Jan 2013

people accidentally shooting their own kids.

Or even intentionally shooting their own kids.

So, you know, whatever. She's lucky the bad guy didn't just grab the gun from her and use it on her.

 
20. There are cases where, yes, having a gun can help you protect yourself
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jan 2013

But such are the exception, not the rule. for this lady. But it doesn't justify the NRA position in the least.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Thanks goodness she wasn't having hallucinations like my FIL when I had to take his guns away
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:29 AM
Jan 2013

when he started thinking the only person who cared for him 24 hours a day was the grim reaper.

50+ years in military and as policeman, but he was too delusional from illness to even think of allowing him near a gun. A good man, who needed to be removed from guns.

We need to take a serious look at how we view guns in our society.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
17. We should look at guns with a more responsible attitude.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

Not the NRA "More guns!" sales pitch.

As is, I can't buy a car unless it's registered, and I have a license to drive.
I'd say owning a gun should entail the same responsibilties.

As is, my .22 pistol is registered at the Sheboygan police department, to make sure they know I have it.

I hope I NEVER have to use it.
If I shot and killed someone I'd feel horribly guilty about it for the rest of my life.

But I have it, and am grateful I do.
A few blocks from my place a meth addict broke into a house and beat an elderly homeowner nearly to death.
The guy was finally shot and killed by police in a different county, he kept coming at the police even after being tased multiple times.

 

notleftwing

(2 posts)
18. um, yes you can.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:53 AM
Jan 2013

You can buy all the 'unregistered' cars you want. Do not have to have a title or insurance. And you can drive them all you want on private property- drag strip, back yard, etc. So thats BS.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
19. I'm talking about LEGAL.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:58 AM
Jan 2013

Even if I buy a car and never register it, if I drive it on public roads without registering it, or without a license,) it's illegal.

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