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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:55 AM Jan 2013

So, Guns Don't Kill People?

"The Only Thing that Stops a Bad Guy with a Gun - Is a Good Guy With a Gun".


Really?

Ok, so why exactly does the map of national gun deaths from 2006 look like this..


Firearm Deaths Per State 2006 via The Atlantic


While the map of states with the toughest gun laws look like this?


Strength of Gun Laws per State


Hmmm.... Is there a pattern forming?

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/10/1177729/-So-Guns-Don-t-Kill-People-eh
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So, Guns Don't Kill People? (Original Post) kpete Jan 2013 OP
I wonder... cyberswede Jan 2013 #1
What this tells me is that southerners kill people and New Englanders don't Recursion Jan 2013 #2
most gun deaths are suicides. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #3
don't you know Shadowflash Jan 2013 #4
Every one of those gun deaths had someone's finger on the trigger kudzu22 Jan 2013 #5
Let's look at the issue from a different perspective slackmaster Jan 2013 #6
Does Not Really Help Your Case Very Much, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #7
Yo slacky 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #9
Not a single gun has ever killed anyone, ever geomon666 Jan 2013 #8
There is no pattern here Drahthaardogs Jan 2013 #10

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
1. I wonder...
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jan 2013

...how many of the states with higher death rates are "shall issue" states?

Iowa recently changed from a "may issue" to a "shall issue" state. I wonder if the low rate of gun deaths in Iowa will change because of that (the top graphic above is from 2006, before the change). I know some top law enforcement officials were not in favor of the change.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. What this tells me is that southerners kill people and New Englanders don't
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jan 2013

But I already knew that.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
4. don't you know
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

That guns don't kill people.

If one tries hard enough you can kill someone with a large rock and guns make no difference whatsoever.

Please try to keep up.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
7. Does Not Really Help Your Case Very Much, Sir
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jan 2013

And it is nonesense to extract accident and suicide from gun deaths as a concern for public policy and law.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
10. There is no pattern here
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jan 2013

California gets and A but has more problems than New York that gets a B and is just slightly ahead of Colorado and Wyoming, both of which probably have a good portion of their deaths due to big game hunting accidents. Michigan has a C but has as many deaths per 100K as does Kansas, which has an F.

What we have here is a lack of statistical significance.

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