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BREAKING: Anti-gay pastor removed from inaugural program http://thkpr.gs/WSBcW2
Louis Giglio, the anti-LGBT pastor who had been announced to perform the benediction at President Obamas second inauguration, has been removed from the program, ABC Newss Jonathan Karl reported Thursday.
The move came after ThinkProgress reported Wednesday that in the 1990s, Giglio had given a lengthy sermon in which he advocated for dangerous ex-gay therapy for gay and lesbian people, referenced a biblical passage often interpreted to require gay people be executed, and impelled Christians to firmly respond to the aggressive agenda and prevent the homosexual lifestyle from becoming accepted in society
read more: https://twitter.com/jonkarl/statuses/289400247824830465
Update:
CNNs Eric Marrapodi is reporting that Giglio voluntarily withdrew from the program.
(In D.C. parlance, that can still be interpreted as a WH takedown)
warrior1
(12,325 posts)They should have an humanist speak. The POTUS mother was one.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Progress. Now how about we don't have a prayer at all?
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)It's almost better than never announcing him in the first place as it exposes his bigotry more broadly.
Cha
(297,154 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)So I'm glad to see it corrected with dispatch.
And kudos to the progressives and activists who brought this asshole's nonsense to public attention.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Given how quickly he was withdrawn once it was exposed. I am guessing it was a vetting oversight.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Would have not known.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)A simple google search when the name was announced showed me this guy was an anti-gay bigot.
THat should have been the end of it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)yesterday? Amazing to see those defenses here on DU. I hope from now on when something is clearly wrong they don't wait to be told it is wrong. This sheep-like willingness to accept just about anything so long as it comes from 'our team' is what is destroying this country.
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)There really are some deluded people here, then.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)We do have people who will support anything they believe is approved of by this administration. I used to think the Left had the ability to tell right from wrong unlike the Right during the Bush years who also were willing to accept any violation of rights so long as it came from their 'team'.
NBachers
(17,107 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Would you have done due diligence?
Hekate
(90,648 posts)Way to keep your friends, dbackjon.
How about: "Thanks for rectifying the human error as soon as it was pointed out to you, Inaugural planners"?
Response to Hekate (Reply #47)
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Hekate
(90,648 posts)Someone's got some issues.
Cha
(297,154 posts)dotymed
(5,610 posts)Remember the pastor at Obama's first swearing in? Very anti-gay puke. His shit was well known...
Maven
(10,533 posts)Anyway, good riddance
gollygee
(22,336 posts)It leads me to believe
a) it isn't a mistake and they aren't that concerned about this
b) it's a blind spot for them so they are repeatedly not thinking about it.
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)[link:http://americablog.com/2013/01/louie-giglio-benediction-obama-inauguration.html|Rick Warren
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There are some things that man is a slow learner about.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Since the National Cathedral has announced that same-sex marriages will be performed there, perhaps the dean of that Episcopal church could give the benediction, if a benediction is needed.
For myself, I'd prefer no prayers at all at the inauguration, but I don't imagine that will happen.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)to give the benediction in Obama's first inauguration. That was disgusting and wrong-headed and people here at DU defended the Rick Warren choice at the time.
Looks like the Obama Admin was poised to make the same mistake twice, but someone intervened, thank goodness.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)stodgy old Episcopalian.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)a good choice. He just announced that same-sex marriages will be performed in that venue.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... perfect choice you mention from the National Cathedral!
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Or better yet, a non-denominational ... person.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)She's pretty inspirational, though.
Wow, you set my mind to working. Any decent priest/ess could whip up a gorgeous and fitting ritual for the occasion.
In our dreams.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...she's not any kind of pastor but is, I believe, going to offer up a prayer.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)traditional healer?
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)I nominate Sister Simone Campbell (from Nuns on the Bus)
Cha
(297,154 posts)Why the heck not!
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Kidding...I'm kidding. This stew needed a little pepper.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)from one of the most progressive churches I've ever set foot in: Pullen Memorial Baptist Church in Raleigh, NC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullen_Memorial_Baptist_Church
If there *must* be religion, that is. Thrilled to see the smarmy mega-preacher has been given the ol' heave-ho, but perplexed as to why, AGAIN, someone of his ilk was chosen in the first place.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Why a homophobic mega-preacher was chosen YET AGAIN is somewhat baffling, but I'm thrilled to see he won't be part of the festivities...
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)I am just appalled they did this. I don't care that he's been dropped -- it never should have reached the point where he was approved.
Robinson is another good choice.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...As for this, all I can say is that he really needs to fire those doing the research work for him. Time and again such announcements are made and then retracted because something is found out which ought to have been found out before it was announced. As Obama and his administration has seen the light (sic) and is no longer trying to make friends with the crazy homophobic right-wing, and has, in fact, come out of the closet in support of gay rights, this sort of over-sight is really inexcusable.
We People
(619 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)For the benediction.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)How about the head of the Episcopal Church, Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts-Schori?
at the stodgy part.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)drama and stagecraft.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)We're like the Catholic church without the bad parts. We have all the same bells and whistles in the service.
However, we are God's frozen people when it comes to personal drama. Stodgy isn't a bad word.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)the Episcopal Church that does Evensong? I use to go just to hear the music-so beautiful.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)The music at my church is magnificent.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Very glad to hear it.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)As several people have stated, I would be happy if god talk were not part of the inaugural, but I know that's not going to happen any time soon. If we have to have a prayer, I say go with someone from the National Cathedral, but they seem to want someone not connected to DC. All I ask is that whomever is chosen is, at a minimum, in favor of marriage equality.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)"god talk" is not my talk.. but, I don't really care if others want it/need it/whatever.. just let it be someone who is really about the teachings of Christ. Not some damn Orwellian snake oil bigot.
Spazito
(50,324 posts)I admit I was VERY disappointed he was chosen once I read of his homophobic views. I don't understand why some background research isn't done on anyone being considered for a prominent role in an inauguration ceremony, had it been done this homophobe would never have been asked in the first place, imo.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Now fire the douche who invited this clown in the first place.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Without the outcry, he would still be on the program.
Either the White House is clueless, or didn't care enough to check his record.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I see this as a positive thing, one that shows that the president is still sometimes responsive to the base even though he doesn't have to run for reelection.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)for doing its homework, yet again.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)the "lack of concern" is totally off base considering the steps forward that have been taken.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)to defend his homophobic diatribes they would have kept him. Note, if you will, that he uses the same Hagel 'it was 14 years ago' line, but also note that he does not apologize even in the Hagel strained sort of way. Giglio says he is dropping out by choice because the gay agenda would upstage his message by publicizing his actual message. He uses the word 'agenda' and the Hagel 'so long ago' excuse but having read his letter, I will give Hagel a bit of credit for at least mouthing an apology. This guy blamed the very people he attacks for a living.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)your equality is also noted.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Not this Administration. They responded to OUR request, to OUR work, to OUR demands. They would do nothing if not for OUR work.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)bigots.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)GOOD.
Take your backwards 'religion' of intolerance, hatred, and exclusion and stick it. paL.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)"withdraw" rather than putting a boot in his behind.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)This looks like a human error on the part of the Inaugural planners, and they rectified it pretty quickly when it was pointed out to them.
I wonder if they keep trying for someone who is madly popular with the Evangelicals, but haven't quite figured out how to find a charismatic preacher who also isn't obnoxious to liberals?
That said, how about that nice Episcopal priest at the National Cathedral? LOL, what with the gay poet and all, that should make a few heads spin.
Hekate
MADem
(135,425 posts)Evangelical hot water!
Instead of "In Jesus' name we pray" he can fire it up with "Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines!"
It'd be different, anyway!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)Very liberal, into social justice. You can tell I've been there.
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)I heard the joke, twenty years ago, about them burning question marks into people's yards. Appealed to a skeptic's sense of humor.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)Or us, I should say. I'm kind of lapsed. Though, frankly, you have to try pretty hard to lapse from the UU.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)This is the greatest news!!
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)This restores my confidence in Obama and his team.
they simply made a mistake and its now corrected.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)You know, the old positive reinforcement thing. Every so often even a president and team need an Attaboy.
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)the administration cares that we say thank you?
Hekate
(90,648 posts)It goes both ways, you know.
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)That one day, one of these stories will be the last.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)Myrlie Evers-Williams?
i may be betraying my ignorance here but i thought that was what i heard.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)they get pretty pray-ee at these things i guess.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)Some more intensely than others. I just got called "Massa."
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Doesn't support your premise.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)Since it apparently didn't sink in the first time.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I stand firmly behind my words and my thoughts. The president is not a homophobe. The record is proof of that. Let's keep pushing him to do the right thing. Personally bashing him, however, is counterproductive.
Maven
(10,533 posts)Hey, real sorry this didn't work out for you though. It seems like gay people really matter as much as other minorities and all hate speech is equally abhorrent, huh?
Response to Maven (Reply #90)
Maven This message was self-deleted by its author.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)they also chose an openly gay poet.
hay rick
(7,607 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Good!!
Interestingly, being picked and THEN REMOVED draws MORE attention to the understanding that anti-gay hate is not acceptable.
Not just politely ignored, but ACTIVELY REMOVED.
Very Good!!!!!!!
Gore1FL
(21,128 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Good for our President.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)here's the piece of shit's parting swipe at gay rights:
It is likely that my participation, and the prayer I would offer, will be dwarfed by those seeking to make their agenda a focal point of the inauguration, Giglio said.
Fuck you, asshole.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)There are plenty of well-respected main-stream ministers they could ask, such as the Washington Cathedral minister or someone from the church the Obama's go to across the street from the White House.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Contact Sojourners
Contact the National Council of Churches
Contact the Interfaith Alliance
For corn's sake, there are thousands of progressive clergy in this country. Including Ted Strickland from Ohio and, oh what was that fellow's name....just on the tip of my tongue. Oh yeah, JESSIE FREAKING JACKSON.
How hard is this?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)he has a nasty habit of being buddy-buddy with people who are homophobic.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)in the world already, without giving those who spread it a platform for their inhumanity.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)Hekate
(90,648 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)wryter2000
(46,037 posts)I couldn't believe Obama had an anti-gay "pastor" for a second time.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)People did. No god helped, people did it. Why pray and give thanks to a god that wasn't there.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)To the lowest common denominator.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Is what I call Great News!
ReRe
(10,597 posts).... 24 little hours....". Sing it. Never again should bigoted Evangelical "clergy" be given the opportunity to offer a prayer at the Inauguration Ceremony again. On this one account, it is a new day in America. This country has turned a 180 degree corner in the last 4 years. I'm so proud of this fact!
Cha
(297,154 posts)http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/10/1429501/anti-gay-pastor-removed-from-inaugural-program/
Initech
(100,065 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)KY_Democrat
(3 posts)DUers. I am a staunch democrat. I believe in civil rights for all people. I think our environment is precious and our duty to take care of it. I believe in peace, and caring for those who need help. I think Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, union rights, etc. are great moments in our nation's political dialogue. But look at the man's record in recent years. We have all said things we regret, particularly from 20 years ago. We have defended the ridiculous comments of Reverend Wright repeatedly on this board. I beg you, look at the man's record from the past 5 years. He has inspired college students to give 10-15 million dollars to causes that promote clean drinking water all over the world, end human slavery, provide homes in Haiti, and give medical care to those in need. His church has taken care of refugees and he has promoted the causes of human rights all over the world. What he said was absurd and undoubtedly bigoted. But this should not keep him from saying a prayer at the presidential inauguration. In moments like these, I think of John Adams, who defended the British troops after the Boston Massacre. Should this have kept him from serving as President or helping write the Declaration of Independence?
On a side note . . . the venom directed towards people of faith is completely absurd and ridiculous. We democrats are better than that!
Riley18
(1,127 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Sing the benediction
AlwaysQuestion
(442 posts)Sorry, but why is a benediction necessary in any event? When it can never be assumed that all pastors embrace all peoples as their god's children it's high time to do away with the clergy during any government event paid for by all its country's citizenry.
indepat
(20,899 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)obama2terms
(563 posts)Just think about how all the presidents and their staffers before Obama wouldn't have given a crap even if they knew the guy said these things. Good riddance!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Rick Warren, libeling LGBT people a few short weeks before the event. Obama and his staff refused to replace him in spite of this, and the lesson they learned was they will not get donations they need if they are too openly bigoted:
Other hate mongering purveyors of ignorance the Obama folks have hired or otherwise employed include Donnie 'we are at war with gays' McClurkin, who was personal surrogate to Barack Obama, Cardinal Dolan, the gospel act Sister Sister both members have called gay people prostitutes, thieves, drug addicts and they were the entertainment for Obama events. Michelle Obama took special efforts to praise McClurkin, whom she called her favorite 'gospel singer' although the 'at war with our neighbors' thing makes me think Michelle has scant understanding of the Gospel which says to love your neighbor as you love yourself.
Not going to forget this bullshit without amends being made by the Obamas.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Complete and undying obsession is to show us all how much this president has grown in the last four years.
Really. His growth has been remarkable. And that shit you post about Michelle??
Right on, brother!!! Feet to the fire!!!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)big congregation, evangelical ministers involved in ceremonies to start. There are religious groups that view and treat gays as brothers and sisters, why couldn't the Obama people have a minister from those groups do the invocation in 2009 and next week?
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)but I attend a mainstream Protestant church that uses critical thinking in its reading and understanding of the Bible and acknowledges that all of God's creations are just that.
But this is a big misstep by the inaugural planning effort. A simple Google would have revealed this guy is controversial on a topic from which the majority of Americans have moved on. As a result the vetting process was either flawed or a wrong decision was taken.
Had the controversy been something the Administration supported (for example in the 1980s if he had been opposed to Apartheid and the Administration was opposed) there may have been reason to include him in the inauguration. But not someone who is so out of step both with the American people but also the Administration.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)That being said Think Progressive's title is misleading. He did choose to do it versus being booted off. We complain about misleading titles for articles about issues we care about, I don't believe in doing the same things the Republicans do.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)davesliberal1977_gg
(22 posts)Bigots like Giglio have no place in the Presidential inauguration. Glad to see some people taking the right stand.