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So they had the annual voting for the Hall of Fame. Some guys with big numbers didn't get enough votes to join the ranks of baseball's greats.
Because they're fucking cheaters.
Clemens, Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa.
Juicers all.
I hope they never get in.
I hope the Hall establishes a display for them: "Losers who cheated and didn't get in."
Maybe they can have lunch with Lance Armstrong.
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Stinky The Clown
(67,790 posts)They all had the tools. Only Sosa, I think, was significantly improved by juicing. The others got . . . . what? . . . an extra home run a month? A few extra strikeouts?
McGwire is a mountain of a man. All that juice in the world wasn't going to let him see the ball any better. He got good number because he had good tools. Same with Bonds. Why did the bother? Was it worth what they now face? De facto banishment. Don't get me wrong. Cheaters deserve to be found out and treated like losers. But look at what could have been.
Armstrong is in a class of his own. Even without the juice he was a great cyclist. Many Italians saw him as better than Pantani. Many Frech saw him as better than Hinault, even though he won five Tours, presumably unjuiced. Armstrong may well have been "the greatest" without juice. But now he's lost it all.The price of cheating. I'm okay with that.
Berserker
(3,419 posts)They do not deserve to be one of the greats. Bonds should be jerked off the all time HR list NOW.
Records should read:
Hank Aaron #1 755
Babe Ruth #2 714
Willie Mays #3 660
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)I couldn't agree with you more, Stinky. They cheated and they don't belong in the HOF. Ever.